New (3 hours old) Shaq trade possible with HEAT!

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Heat reportedly working on Shaq deal
/ FOXSports.com
Posted: 3 hours ago

It seems things have deteriorated so badly in Laker land that there's no chance or scenario in which Shaquille O'Neal would return to Los Angeles next season. Lakers owner Jerry Buss is committed to "deal" the superstar center, the Riverside Press-Enterprise reported Thursday.

And one team that has emerged as a frontrunner for O'Neal's services and hefty contract is Miami. Sources told the newspaper that the Lakers have fielded about 17 or 18 offers and narrowed them down to about five or six.

The deal with the Heat would include former Clipper Lamar Odom, Brian Grant and probably a first-round draft pick, sources said.

The Lakers have asked for rookie sensation Dwyane Wade, but the Heat refuse to part with him.

To make any deal work, the NBA stipulates that the Lakers have to come within 15 percent plus $100,000 of O'Neal's $27.6 million salary for next season.

The tumultuous situation between Buss and O'Neal started during training camp, when O'Neal demanded an extension and yelled, "Now you gonna pay me!" at the owner during an exhibition game.

Buss also was frustrated by O'Neal's lack of conditioning and consistent demands for more money, sources disclosed. O'Neal wanted a two-year, $60 million extension.

O'Neal did express a desire to play for Rudy Tomjanovich, most likely the Lakers' new coach by Friday. But with all bridges burned, the three-time NBA Finals MVP appears to have played his last game for the purple and gold.

"I just feel terrible for Rudy because I wanted to play for him," O'Neal said. "But I ain't coming back there."
 

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I think it would've happened already if that was the deal. It may be the heat, but there may be a few other players involved in this. I can see Shaq in Miami, the team wouldn't be great, but Shaq is a Miami guy.
 

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dbUNIT16 said:
I think it would've happened already if that was the deal. It may be the heat, but there may be a few other players involved in this. I can see Shaq in Miami, the team wouldn't be great, but Shaq is a Miami guy.

Shaq/MLE/Butler/Jones/Wade, that's a very good team already. They'll win it all within two years! And so is any team which acrqires Shaq without losing their best piece.
 

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WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?

Odom/Grant/PROBABLY a #1?!?!?!?!?!?

I say the Suns counter with Marion/CJ/Barbosa/Voskuhl/Eisley/#1....

That gives the Lakers a deal they CAN'T refuse and the Suns get:

Nash-Q-JJ-Stud-Shaq

OMFG!

That rooolez!!!!!!!
 

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Seeds Of Hate said:
WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?

Odom/Grant/PROBABLY a #1?!?!?!?!?!?

I say the Suns counter with Marion/CJ/Barbosa/Voskuhl/Eisley/#1....

That gives the Lakers a deal they CAN'T refuse and the Suns get:

Nash-Q-JJ-Stud-Shaq

OMFG!

That rooolez!!!!!!!

Yes and we just play all 5 players for 48 minutes... :confused:
 

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Seeds Of Hate said:
WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?

Odom/Grant/PROBABLY a #1?!?!?!?!?!?

I say the Suns counter with Marion/CJ/Barbosa/Voskuhl/Eisley/#1....

That gives the Lakers a deal they CAN'T refuse and the Suns get:

Nash-Q-JJ-Stud-Shaq

OMFG!

That rooolez!!!!!!!

first of all I don't expect the Lakers would accept that package from Miami. Secondly that package you are offering from the Suns is not as attractive.

Joe Mama
 

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when the suns talked to the lakers about shaq the lakers said flat out if we want shaq they want amare, marion and jj. the suns told the lakers where they could take that offer. the lakers want two allstars and a nice young player for shaq. does that sound like Marion/CJ/Barbosa/Voskuhl/Eisley/#1?
 

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scotsman13 said:
when the suns talked to the lakers about shaq the lakers said flat out if we want shaq they want amare, marion and jj. the suns told the lakers where they could take that offer. the lakers want two allstars and a nice young player for shaq. does that sound like Marion/CJ/Barbosa/Voskuhl/Eisley/#1?


That was several days ago when the Lakers thought they'd get equal value for Shaq. Now they're realizing that thats not going to happen.

Dallas said no to Dirk, Indiana said no to Oneal, Miami said no to Wade and the Suns said no to Amare.

If the Lakers really want to deal shaq theyre going to have to take a second level star and pieces PERIOD

Marion/CJ/Barbosa/Voskuhl/Eisley/#1 (if its the Chi. #1) may not get it done but its not that far off.
 

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az jam said:
Shaq to Miami makes the most sense.


Mainly because Kupchak is afraid of having him in the west and having to play him 4 times a year.
 

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Do the Heat have enough cap room to sign Dampier and send him to LA?
 

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Do the Heat have enough cap room to sign Dampier and send him to LA?

You can only do a sign and trade with your own FA. If someone besides GS were to sign Damp, they would have to wait a period of time (I believe 6 months) before they were able to trade him.
 

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Joe Mama said:
first of all I don't expect the Lakers would accept that package from Miami. Secondly that package you are offering from the Suns is not as attractive.

Joe Mama

Not as attractive? Marion is INFINITELY more productive and hard working and dedicated and so forth and so on. Odom is mediocre and he never lived up to the hype or potential. Grant? Old, over the hill, washed up Grant? I'd say teh combination of Voskuhl/Barbosa/CJ/Eisley is better for both productivity AND for flexibility. Throw in a DEFINITE (not a probable) #1 from CHI, which would be MUCH higher a pick than MIA's pick with Shaq on the team, and you have a MUCH better deal. As far as filling out the roster, well, the Suns would do what they gotta do. We have Vroman, Williamsand Zarko left, so we'd have to round out the roster with 3 vet minimums....
 

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Seeds Of Hate said:
Not as attractive? Marion is INFINITELY more productive and hard working and dedicated and so forth and so on. Odom is mediocre and he never lived up to the hype or potential. Grant? Old, over the hill, washed up Grant? I'd say teh combination of Voskuhl/Barbosa/CJ/Eisley is better for both productivity AND for flexibility. Throw in a DEFINITE (not a probable) #1 from CHI, which would be MUCH higher a pick than MIA's pick with Shaq on the team, and you have a MUCH better deal. As far as filling out the roster, well, the Suns would do what they gotta do. We have Vroman, Williamsand Zarko left, so we'd have to round out the roster with 3 vet minimums....

hate to burst your bubble, but Lamar Odom is AT LEAST as valuable in a trade and Shawn Marion. He may have had off the court problems, but he's generally regarded as one of the most talented players in the NBA. Last year he averaged 17 points, 9.7 rebounds, and 4.1 assists for the Miami Heat. I guarantee that Miami would not even consider trading him straight across for Shawn Marion. Shawn Marion is a very good player. He is a small forward though. He really can't play any other position. Odom can play virtually every position on the floor.

Joe Mama
 

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Tank said:
they would have to wait a period of time (I believe 6 months) before they were able to trade him.

45 Days.
 

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If the Lakers really want to deal shaq theyre going to have to take a second level star and pieces PERIOD

Or gamble on Chris Webber, as I suggested a few days ago.
 

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