New coach Kingdom says you can teach speed

[cardncubfan]

Evidently you can teach speed.

"First, it's about mechanics. Fix a player's fundamentals and he'll naturally get faster, Kingdom said, especially if he's either on the bottom or tapped out his genetic makeup. And Kingdom didn't just talk about shaving a few milliseconds off -- he said a player could go from a 4.5-second 40-yard dash to low 4.4 or even high 4.3-seconds."

http://espn.go.com/blog/arizona-cardinals/post/_/id/5565/gold-medalist-kingdom-can-teach-speed

 

[187]

He needs to get Rich Eisen in the 4.8's and then I will believe him.

 

[Jetstream Green]

it is called proper form

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

He needs to get Rich Eisen in the 4.8's and then I will believe him.

It's all about incentive.

One year at the Cards/Rams game, I stood 40 yards away from WisconsinCard with a bottle of scotch and a cigar. I hand timed him at 4.36.

 

[CFLredzoned]

It'll be interesting to see how this pans out. Right now, it's alot of theory. I heard Kingdom's interviews and he was the first to admit that he's basically carrying the torch for the whole concept of having a speed coach on an NFL team. So there's alot of weight on his shoulders to prove that it works.

The first thing I thought was do you really want guys to have to think about the way they're running? They have enough on their minds. Especially someone like Ellington. Why even mess with that? But after hearing his second interview, I'm starting to think it's more about the way that they train, and the intervals and timing and what not - moreso than focusing on a specific technique. We'll see.

The guy sounds convinced that he can help everybody. You have to like his energy at least - and BA's willingness to try something on the borderline cutting edge.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

It'll be interesting to see how this pans out. Right now, it's alot of theory. I heard Kingdom's interviews and he was the first to admit that he's basically carrying the torch for the whole concept of having a speed coach on an NFL team. So there's alot of weight on his shoulders to prove that it works.

The first thing I thought was do you really want guys to have to think about the way they're running? They have enough on their minds. Especially someone like Ellington. Why even mess with that? But after hearing his second interview, I'm starting to think it's more about the way that they train, and the intervals and timing and what not - moreso than focusing on a specific technique. We'll see.

The guy sounds convinced that he can help everybody. You have to like his energy at least - and BA's willingness to try something on the borderline cutting edge.

But even for the technique stuff, the idea is through hard work to get the proper technique to become natural and something you don't have to think about. Sure for the first week or so of training it might feel a little awkward or forced, but over time they shouldn't have to think about it.

 

[Jetstream Green]

But even for the technique stuff, the idea is through hard work to get the proper technique to become natural and something you don't have to think about. Sure for the first week or so of training it might feel a little awkward or forced, but over time they shouldn't have to think about it.

This... again and again

 

[GuernseyCard]

It'll be interesting to see how this pans out. Right now, it's alot of theory. I heard Kingdom's interviews and he was the first to admit that he's basically carrying the torch for the whole concept of having a speed coach on an NFL team. So there's alot of weight on his shoulders to prove that it works.

The first thing I thought was do you really want guys to have to think about the way they're running? They have enough on their minds. Especially someone like Ellington. Why even mess with that? But after hearing his second interview, I'm starting to think it's more about the way that they train, and the intervals and timing and what not - moreso than focusing on a specific technique. We'll see.

The guy sounds convinced that he can help everybody. You have to like his energy at least - and BA's willingness to try something on the borderline cutting edge.

Repetition creates a habit without thought.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Repetition creates a habit without thought.

Exactly. It's not about thinking; it's creating the muscle memory so that athletes run better. Muscle memory.

What it would consist of is adding a speed coach to the team conditioning phase, and have the players improve their technique through ruthless repetition. Which over time would improve their form.

I like the idea; any edge that can make the Cardinals a better football team is a good thing.

 

[Russ Smith]

That was the whole thing with Tom Tellez coaching Carl Lewis. People always said Lewis was stronger than other runners so he accelerated down the stretch but it was completely untrue. Lewis had better technique than the others so he didn't tire as quickly, which meant in the last 30 meters he was slowing down too, but not as much as the others were. It looked like he was accelerating but it was actually he was slowing down less than everyone else.

People used to make fun of the almost robotic way Lewis ran, but that's why, and it's the norm in sprints now everyone teaches that technique because it's more efficient so you don't tire as quickly.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

I remember one of the Rams receivers on the NFL show, he did his footwork in slow motion and the efficiency was incredible. He kept saying that you cannot waste a twitch (movement of hands, head, sink in knees) to be the best, and I think that is where Kingdom is going with his methodology.

 

[187]

I remember one of the Rams receivers on the NFL show, he did his footwork in slow motion and the efficiency was incredible. He kept saying that you cannot waste a twitch (movement of hands, head, sink in knees) to be the best, and I think that is where Kingdom is going with his methodology.

Guessing it was Holt or Bruce? I saw a few clips of Marvin Harrison running routes in game where the camera was focused on his footwork, a thing of beauty,

 

[GuernseyCard]

That was the whole thing with Tom Tellez coaching Carl Lewis. People always said Lewis was stronger than other runners so he accelerated down the stretch but it was completely untrue. Lewis had better technique than the others so he didn't tire as quickly, which meant in the last 30 meters he was slowing down too, but not as much as the others were. It looked like he was accelerating but it was actually he was slowing down less than everyone else.

People used to make fun of the almost robotic way Lewis ran, but that's why, and it's the norm in sprints now everyone teaches that technique because it's more efficient so you don't tire as quickly.

Well, he was still decelerating more quickly than fellow doper, Ben Johnson.

(The principle, frankly, was well known to other sprint coaches)

 

[Russ Smith]

Well, he was still decelerating more quickly than fellow doper, Ben Johnson.

(The principle, frankly, was well known to other sprint coaches)

Oh yeah they all knew it but his form was better so he didn't tire out. Lots of people don't get why sprinters were doping. It wasn't just to be more explosive out of the blocks, it was so they wouldn't tire and lose form, and thus speed at the end of races.

And I agree it's damn near certain Lewis was doping too, in fact he allegedly tested positive in the Olympics that one year and the US team got the test covered up.

I have no doubt there are guys who can be taught to be faster in the NFL, they've been doing it for years preparing guys for the combines.

 

[kerouac9]

But even for the technique stuff, the idea is through hard work to get the proper technique to become natural and something you don't have to think about. Sure for the first week or so of training it might feel a little awkward or forced, but over time they shouldn't have to think about it.

Yeah. You know, like how easy it was to fix Tim Tebow's throwing motion.

And David Carr's.

And Matt Leinart's.

 

[cardncubfan]

New article called "The Strength of Birds."

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/04/18/arizona-cardinals-strength-conditioning/

 

[daves]

New article called "The Strength of Birds."

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/04/18/arizona-cardinals-strength-conditioning/

Indeed... it's great to see the Cardinals being singled out for perhaps being ahead of most other teams in the league in this area. And so much for the idea that the players won't be getting properly warmed up before working out:

“Our guys say our warmup is everybody else’s workout,” said Morris, who trained Jim Covert, Bill Fralic, Russ Grimm, Dan Marino, Mark Stepnoski, Ruben Brown and Curtis Martin at Pittsburgh. “Our warmup is pretty extensive, and now we are programming by position. We’re not going to run a cookie cutter program where everybody comes in and does the same thing. We’re not just about lifting weights. That’s only one component but that’s the component everybody thinks about. It’s much more than that. It’s about dynamic movement, it’s about activations, it’s about prehab and rehab, it’s about making sure our guys are perfect biomechanically, more efficient so they don’t waste energy.”

Yup, it’s a new era in the Cardinals’ strength and conditioning department. The rest of the league will be watching to see the results

...dave

 

[8ndkorner]

He needs to get Rich Eisen in the 4.8's and then I will believe him.

Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done...

 

[Duckjake]

There used to be a trainer, may still be, who worked with players to improve their combine numbers including their 40 time.

One thing he talked about was pushing off the ground. Try it sometime when you are walking. Walk normal and then after a step or two consciously push off the ground as you step. You will walk faster. I believe that is a concept the guys who "walk race" use.