New Mock from War Room: All 7 Rounds.

[Shogun]

RB Adrian Peterson, OU
LB Lawrence Timmons, FSU
CB David Irons, Auburn
OT Allan Barbre, Southern Missouri
OG Mansfield Grotto, GTech
DT Ala Dagunduro, Nebraska

Thoughts? I really like this haul.

 

[kerouac9]

I'd be happy, but who blocks for Matt Leinart's front side? This would highlight how profoundly inept the Arizona Front office is.

 

[SuperSpck]

I'd be happy, but who blocks for Matt Leinart's front side? This would highlight how profoundly inept the Arizona Front office is.

True story, but that draft does look good.

*Not that the FA linemen out there were worth what they were paid. Not at the tackle position at least. Bad time to be short on a tackle.

 

[Buckybird]

How in the world could we get AP and Timmons in this draft?

 

[Pariah]

If that's how it pans out, I think we've got to be happy with it--despite not landing a T that can likely start right away.

 

[Scot1]

To repeat: OT is our top need, obviously and still. If we ignore that, there's little reason to think getting one more great skill player like AP will help us appreciably--Leinart will still get killed, AP and Edge will still use their skills dodging multiple tacklers behind the line.... Ho hum.

If we ignore that, sure AP is good or great if he isn't worn down and destined for early injury, Timmons is good if still around, Irons is weak and short but could probably help. Barbre isn't even on Gollin's list of the top 21 OT prospects--oh, found him under Guard, because he gets beat too often around the edge. Both OL do sound like decent prospects, but we need Tackles, much more than Guards.

See Aikdog's analysis starting another thread--it makes it pretty clear where this draft haul would put us.

 

[SuperSpck]

The draft is an inexact science, if getting a highly touted OT guarenteed a better line than reach for one, but if Thomas is off the board than get who you can, but be warned even if the team gets Thomas the team may no be better off immediately, including Leinart dead or broken and Edge dancing at the line like Barry Sanders (minus the entertainment value).

 

[DevilPrideBAS]

I was watching some of the Oklahoma spring football game on ESPNU, and they interviewed Adrian Peterson--he mentioned something about ending up in arizona if hes still there at 5.

 

[Buckybird]

I was watching some of the Oklahoma spring football game on ESPNU, and they interviewed Adrian Peterson--he mentioned something about ending up in arizona if hes still there at 5.

 

[SuperSpck]

I was watching some of the Oklahoma spring football game on ESPNU, and they interviewed Adrian Peterson--he mentioned something about ending up in arizona if hes still there at 5.

did he say it like he died a little inside?

 

[DevilPrideBAS]

did he say it like he died a little inside?

haha, surprisingly he had smile on his face--it was actually like he would be happy coming here.

 

[jefftheshark]

I was watching some of the Oklahoma spring football game on ESPNU, and they interviewed Adrian Peterson--he mentioned something about ending up in arizona if hes still there at 5.

He must be getting interview advise from LenDale White.

The Shark

 

[lobo]

To repeat: OT is our top need, obviously and still. If we ignore that, there's little reason to think getting one more great skill player like AP will help us appreciably--Leinart will still get killed, AP and Edge will still use their skills dodging multiple tacklers behind the line.... Ho hum.

Don't worry, the powers that be are more than well aware of that. There is virtually no possible way we ignore this in round 1 or 2. Whether it be Thomas, Brown, Staley. The only way we DON'T draft an OT if a deal is somehow made for Starks.

 

[Scot1]

I pray you're right, lobo.

 

[Gandhi]

Don't worry, the powers that be are more than well aware of that. There is virtually no possible way we ignore this in round 1 or 2. Whether it be Thomas, Brown, Staley. The only way we DON'T draft an OT if a deal is somehow made for Starks.

Actually I can see us going with Blalock, Davis style, if Thomas is not on the board.
Then probably another tackle on the later rounds, but my point being, that we could see Blalock as a legit tackle for now and then hope and pray for Jake Long or Sam Baker next year, where we would then have a good guard in Blalock.

Also it would make it possible to take Adams or Willis in round one, which I have an idea that Whisenhunt would like, having his words of psychical play in my mind.

Just some small thinking.

 

[Assface]

did he say it like he died a little inside?

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Actually I can see us going with Blalock, Davis style, if Thomas is not on the board.
Then probably another tackle on the later rounds, but my point being, that we could see Blalock as a legit tackle for now and then hope and pray for Jake Long or Sam Baker next year, where we would then have a good guard in Blalock.

Also it would make it possible to take Adams or Willis in round one, which I have an idea that Whisenhunt would like, having his words of psychical play in my mind.

Just some small thinking.

Another very good prospect that could come out next year at the tackle spot is Alex Boone from Ohio State.Most people automatically think of the Florida game and how he got abused a couple times but he probably shouldn't have even played because of an injury and the coaches have come out and said most of the miscues were not his doing but missed assignments/reads from the other linemen. Boone was the #1 rated OT coming into college and is going to have a great year this year.He's 6'8 300 lbs. and athletic. Next year's drft is probably going to be a good one for OT's.

 

[kerouac9]

Actually I can see us going with Blalock, Davis style, if Thomas is not on the board.
Then probably another tackle on the later rounds, but my point being, that we could see Blalock as a legit tackle for now and then hope and pray for Jake Long or Sam Baker next year, where we would then have a good guard in Blalock.

Also it would make it possible to take Adams or Willis in round one, which I have an idea that Whisenhunt would like, having his words of psychical play in my mind.

Just some small thinking.

Man, it sure would be great to go 5-11, 4-12 to make sure we get the OT that we could have had if we'd just retained Leonard Davis...

 

[JeffGollin]

Using the War Rooms board (from the published draft guide) and assuming for this scenario only that we drafted Peterson (ranked #7) instead of Thomas (ranked #4), my mock using their board would look something like -

1. Peterson (ranked #7)
2. Revis (ranked #38)
3. Staley (ranked #73)
4. Spaeth (ranked #128)
5. Sartz (ranked #191)
7. Piscitelli (unranked)

Problem is - the War Room player rankings appear to be all over the place. So OK, same excercise using the Scouts Inc. (ESPN) board:

1. Peterson (ranked #7)
2. Beason (ranked #39. Note: Blalock = #35. Staley = #33. One of them might drop)
3. Allison WR (D Harris is ranked #68 and could fall to us)
4. Patrick (ranked #110)
5. Otto (ranked #178)
7. McClean (ranked #217) or Studdard (#218) or Barbre (#224 - he'll be gone)

(I was going to include a mock based on the BRS board, but it wouldn't be realistic because the BRS board is stacked to rank players who could help the Cardinals most and not on the order they'd be most likely to be drafted. In other words, several players who'd be gone from the BRS board when we picked would probably still be available in the "real world.")

My point is that 7 round mocks will be all over the place because they're conditioned on varying (a) expert opinions of each player's talent and (b) their guess as to how each team evaluates each player and is likely to pick (Kind of like throwing darts blindfolded at a moving dartboard).

 

[BigDavis75]

Using the War Rooms board (from the published draft guide) and assuming for this scenario only that we drafted Peterson (ranked #7) instead of Thomas (ranked #4), my mock using their board would look something like -

1. Peterson (ranked #7)
2. Revis (ranked #38)
3. Staley (ranked #73)
4. Spaeth (ranked #128)
5. Sartz (ranked #191)
7. Piscitelli (unranked)

Problem is - the War Room player rankings appear to be all over the place. So OK, same excercise using the Scouts Inc. (ESPN) board:

This would be the greatest draft ever. I think that Revis is the best CB this year and I think Staley is the second best tackle (although I realize he is probably a first rounder) and I really think Sartz is going to be a good NFL player with his speed and coverage ability.

 

[john h]

RB Adrian Peterson, OU
LB Lawrence Timmons, FSU
CB David Irons, Auburn
OT Allan Barbre, Southern Missouri
OG Mansfield Grotto, GTech
DT Ala Dagunduro, Nebraska

Thoughts? I really like this haul.

I have watched Irons several games this past year. He is really a good prospect. Wonder if he will not go in the second round.