Nice Article on Mayfield
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Great article Harry. Thanks for posting.
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Do you think he’ll be there when the Cardinals draft?
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good summation
no telling. One can be nearly certain he will not go #1.... the comparisons to manziel ensure that. Cleveland will pick the squeaky clean member of the top 4 QB's in the draft.
I could see the Jets picking him right in front of AZ..... he might be the second coming of Joe Namath for them...boisterous semi trouble maker from a southern college...
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I was wrong about Leinart but I was not wrong about Wilson, and am not shock by the success of Watson. The character concerns about Mayfield do not even remotely apply to a Manziel comparison, actually Mayfield is an emotional anti-Johnny who has had to work and earn everything while Manziel had idiotic acts off the field and a sense of entitlement. The Cardinals need to draft Mayfield, do whatever it takes to draft him!
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I think the character concerns are less than the physical ones. He’s so small.
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He's bigger than Wilson and Brees
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Well soon see.
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But, it's been pointed out that those 2 have very long arms that allows them a higher release point. Mayfield is not going to be able to improvise to the degree he does in college. He'll have to be able to throw from the pocket for any long term success.
Long arms aren't really good for a QB either. The release takes so much longer. Give me big hands to protect the ball over long arms.
@Mayfield: I don't see him becoming a Cardinal as long as Arians is our HC. Not a good fit at all. While I think Arians can adapt at times, he won't re-write his playbook from scratch. Now if we could hire someone like the Chiefs, Seahawks or Vikings OC as new HC, Mayfield is our guy.
@Mayfield: I don't see him becoming a Cardinal as long as Arians is our HC. Not a good fit at all. While I think Arians can adapt at times, he won't re-write his playbook from scratch. Now if we could hire someone like the Chiefs, Seahawks or Vikings OC as new HC, Mayfield is our guy.
This mock has us taking Mayfield at #14. It also has the Jets taking a linebacker not a QB. FWIW.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...ions-heading-into-week-15/ss-BBGFLl4#image=14
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...ions-heading-into-week-15/ss-BBGFLl4#image=14
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Wilson does have kind of a windup release. He's definitely an anomaly and still is not probably not going to beat you when kept in the pocket.
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We should spend this entire offseason completely rebuilding the offense. The D is okay for now. New qb, linemen, wr's.
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im not assuming this
Keim has been outspoken in how he let Wilson's height dissuade him from taking him -- i read that as an indirect reference to Mayfield
Further, Mayfield has plenty of arm strength and throws a really nice deep ball
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The only thing I worry about is Arians putting up a fight to not take Mayfield if Keim feels he’s our guy. I hope he has the stones to choose future over present and land a HC willing to develop Baker.
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I love QBs with a chip on their shoulder. One area where i like Mayfield and Darnold over Rosen and Lamar Jackson.
kerouac9
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It's impossible to believe that you still think that Russell Wilson isn't an exceptional quarterback.
Krangodnzr
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I don't think Cbus is saying he isn't exceptional. And he is right, the book on limiting Wilson is to keep him in the pocket. Easier said than done.
kerouac9
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The Seahawks have resolved this by never giving him a pocket to play from.
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Now we are picking 12th. but that will change until the end of the year.
Good info site.
http://www.tankathon.com/nfl
AsUpRoDiGy
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They prefer the "just run for your life" offense
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Thank you for helping prove my point. Even Seattle knows Wilson is not going to beat from the pocket.
Krang is right. Teams want to keep him there, and when they do, he struggles, it's just hard to keep him there.
Is Mayfield the athlete Wilson is? I doubt it. Brees can beat you from the pocket. Is he the pocket passer Brees is? I doubt it.
Interesting that the Cardinals apparently made an offer to RG3 in the offseason. Strange, considering that he'd be an ill fit for the current system, but if true, it shows that Keim is not averse to bringing in a very different style of QB than the "Arians prototype" big, strong-armed, pocket passer (which has simpy been the NFL prototype for a couple of decades).
Cards had interest in RG3 in the 2017 offseason
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Keim is a joke. Any real GM would've turned every stone possible to get a franchise QB. Even the lowly 49ers went out and got their franchise QB, their GM Lynch got him during his 1st (!) season. Rams got their franchise QB, and Russell Wilson is imo the best QB in the game. Keim is a coward. Signing the likes of Gabbert, RGIII, and selling them to us as potential franchise saviors, what a joke!
