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Did anyone catch his interview? I think he handled himself well and will not slide in the draft. I think he will be a really good one and comes off as someone who has righted the ship but who knows. Would love to grab him but it would require going up to go get him. Tyran, PP & Co would provide a good environment for him.
 

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Doubt Keim would take him at 29 and he definitely won't trade up for him.
 

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Pipe dream but could you imagine Bruce Irvin & Noah Spence coming off the edges next year in ARZ?

Pundits felt Spence bombed his Senior Bowl interviews so this should make up for it. We'll just have to see how he does tomorrow.
 

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Certainly goes in the top 12. Doesn't break my heart: he's way too big a risk for the Cards. There were several reasons HB was worth the risk. Spence isn't.
 

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Tell me why you believe that Jim? Listen I'm scared as hell about taking almost anyone in Rd 1 with drug issues. Is it because of Dwash or more? Gimme your Buckeye info.

He failed multiple drug tests for ecstasy at OSU. In general, he was regarded as a good kid that needed to grow up. However, he just refused to do that and wanted to do nothing but party. Thus, OSU really had no choice than to cut ties with him. He was in trouble at EKU as well. I have a hard time thinking he's going to become more responsible with millions of dollars in the bank.

2-3 months of being "good" when there's a bunch of money at stake doesn't erase years of behavior. I'll get the combine scoop on him next week. Heck, he may have failed a drug test at the combine for all we know.

I get that people can change and his talent is top 10 worthy but when was the last Keim, or the Cards in general, took a player with character issues in round 1? I go back to David Boston but he didn't have issues until in the NFL and was a great kid at OSU.
 

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He failed multiple drug tests for ecstasy at OSU. In general, he was regarded as a good kid that needed to grow up. However, he just refused to do that and wanted to do nothing but party. Thus, OSU really had no choice than to cut ties with him. He was in trouble at EKU as well. I have a hard time thinking he's going to become more responsible with millions of dollars in the bank.

2-3 months of being "good" when there's a bunch of money at stake doesn't erase years of behavior. I'll get the combine scoop on him next week. Heck, he may have failed a drug test at the combine for all we know.

I get that people can change and his talent is top 10 worthy but when was the last Keim, or the Cards in general, took a player with character issues in round 1? I go back to David Boston but he didn't have issues until in the NFL and was a great kid at OSU.

CBUS, do you have any examples of him getting in trouble at EKU. I heard about one incident prior to football season (public intoxication?) but all indications are that he stayed on the straight and narrow since then. Of course, a failed drug test could have been hidden from the public.
 

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CBUS, do you have any examples of him getting in trouble at EKU. I heard about one incident prior to football season (public intoxication?) but all indications are that he stayed on the straight and narrow since then. Of course, a failed drug test could have been hidden from the public.

Urban Meyer actually called the head coach at Eastern Kentucky to vouch for Spence before he went there. I heard he was on his best behavior there as well.
 

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4.8 forty.. might fall a little, who knows. Being compared to Von Miller and Justin Houstin. Big shoes to fill.
 

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Any team taking this guy in the top 15 is going to be sorely disappointed. This is the kind of guy you take in round 2 or 3 so that anything he does short of being a total bust is a pleasant surprise.

Not only is he not a top 10 pick on talent alone, but he has been in trouble rather frequently. Add those two things together and someone is going to be taking a hell of a gamble on him. Look at how far Randy Gregory fell last year. And now look where Randy Gregory is - suspended.
 

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He will have to run a faster 40 at his pro day to be taken in the first round. Teams are leery to begin with regarding the off-field issues and 4.8 in the 40 does not make him special in terms of speed on the edge.

The good news for Spence is that it is a weak draft for speed edge rushers.

However, with the DT/DE group being the best it has been in years, the run on those players is going to be intense, which could easily drop Spence out of the first round, even if he runs a faster 40.
 
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I don't like the fact that his first drug test failure knocked him out of the Orange Bowl and his next knocked him out of the conference champioship game. What will be important to this guy once he has the signing bonus and the protection of the NFL players' agreement.
 

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I don't like the fact that his first drug test failure knocked him out of the Orange Bowl and his next knocked him out of the conference champioship game. What will be important to this guy once he has the signing bonus and the protection of the NFL players' agreement.

This.

It wouldn't surprise me if Keim has taken him off their board.
 

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I don't like the fact that his first drug test failure knocked him out of the Orange Bowl and his next knocked him out of the conference champioship game. What will be important to this guy once he has the signing bonus and the protection of the NFL players' agreement.

Not even to mention millions in his pockets. This has (D. Wash, chapter 2 all over it). Those who don't learn from their mistakes deserve more of the same.
 

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To me there was a lot of disappointment in terms of how much speed these guys displayed today (talking about top pass rush prospects). Ogbah had a really impressive time (4.62) but everyone else (Bosa, Spence, Calhoun, etc.) disappointed. I know, tape is better evidence than a stop clock in terms of ability but most of these guys will be running the 40 again at their pro days. Floyd & Lee were impressive but its hard to say if they would be a great fit in our defense. Been reviewing tape of Tapper the last month and he looks like he could now go in Round 2 instead of 3 or 4 before the Combine.
 

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Here's an interview with Noah Spence conducted by an OSU writer at Scout.com:



How are you handling the questions from teams about your past?
I’m just telling the truth. My whole story, it’s all out there. I’m just not holding anything back, you know?

What is your story?
I failed two drug tests and they got me suspended.

Were both failed test for Ecstasy?
Yeah.

Are you tired of answering those questions?
I knew it was coming. I’m not tired of answering them. I’m used to it.

Is the hardest part of this convincing teams you are telling the truth and this is behind you?
No. I feel like it’s all out there.

Inaudible
For sure. With anybody with a substance abuse problem that they’ve had, I feel like they’re pretty leery about it but if you can put it behind you can convince the team it’s behind you.

How did you put it behind you?
Just stayed on top of it. Been drug tested frequently. And just like, put my focus more on football, school and stuff like that.

Inaudible
There’s a group of people I can’t hang with. I have to be more myself and stay away from that party scene. It was more like partying and going out. Every time I did it, it was me going out and partying.

How did this impact your family?
To be honest, my parents never really put me down or anything like that. They just wanted to see me do better. It was never like, ‘Oh, what did you do? Why did you do that?’ That type of deal. It was embarrassing for them, but it was never like trying to put me down or anything like that.

Inaudible
I spend a lot more time by myself now. I have a girlfriend now. I go to movies, chill, stuff like that. I don’t do much partying nowadays.

What led to the problem in the first place?
Honestly, it was more me going to parties and stuff like that. It was never really an addiction.

How do you prove this is not a pattern?
Like I said, I feel like everything is done and it’s out in the open. I never got away with anything. It’s all there.

What are your biggest strengths, weaknesses?
My biggest strength is pass rush. I’m relentless on the field. I think I can get better with like, my run-stopping abilities and playing within the framework of the defense.

Bosa and Decker said you’re a good guy. You like hearing that?
Yeah, it helps me a lot. I feel blessed to have them as my friends. I don’t feel like I was ever distrustful or a bad person to anybody. I just had a couple problems. I made some mistakes and that’s pretty much it.

Who did you lean on to help you through the tough times?
My Dad. I leaned on him a lot during the process.

What’s the most challenging question teams ask you about your past?
I haven’t really had many challenging questions. They’re all really question that I knew were coming so I just answer them.

What teams have you met with?
Giants, Kansas City, Ravens, Washington. That’s it right now.

When you were at EKU did you ever wonder how you got there?
No, I knew what I did. I knew why I was there and I knew it was a business trip for me. It’s a great school and I wanted to win and I knew going in what I wanted to do and what I wanted to get out of the situation.

How does it feel to have this well in your past?
It’s huge for me, especially with my drug tests and I’m still being drug tested to this day. It shows that I’ve grown from the situation and I’ve become a better person.

How often are you drug tested?
Every week now and I was on every drug test at Eastern Kentucky. After I failed at Ohio State (the first time) I was drug tested like twice a week up until I left.

Any linemen in the NFL that you would compare yourself to?
I like Justin Houston’s film a lot.

What was the year like for you at EKU?
It was a year for me to find myself. More so trying to become a better person.

Are you more of a defensive end or OLB?
Both. I don’t really see myself as more one than the other.

What can you tell us about your father?
Like I said, he’s a good general person. He doesn’t really get on me too much, but he like explains to me what I’ve done wrong and then we go about how I’m going to get better with the situation.

Feelings on EKU
I love my school. I love Eastern Kentucky. They took me in after I was suspended and that means the world to me. I mean, whatever I can do to help them is good.

What was it like playing at EKU vs. OSU
It’s still football. I didn’t feel much different except for the crowds being smaller. Everyone loved the games. It was still football.

What are your expectations for the draft?
I don’t have any expectations. I’m blessed to be in this situation. I didn’t think I’d be back here. Wherever I go is fine with me.

How tough was it watching OSU the last year?
I was happy for them. They’re still my brothers and stuff like that. I still care about those guys. I want to see them win and succeed.

Are you a risky pick for teams?
No. Not at all.
 

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Here's an interview with Noah Spence conducted by an OSU writer at Scout.com:



How are you handling the questions from teams about your past?
I’m just telling the truth. My whole story, it’s all out there. I’m just not holding anything back, you know?

What is your story?
I failed two drug tests and they got me suspended.

Were both failed test for Ecstasy?
Yeah.

Are you tired of answering those questions?
I knew it was coming. I’m not tired of answering them. I’m used to it.

Is the hardest part of this convincing teams you are telling the truth and this is behind you?
No. I feel like it’s all out there.

Inaudible
For sure. With anybody with a substance abuse problem that they’ve had, I feel like they’re pretty leery about it but if you can put it behind you can convince the team it’s behind you.

How did you put it behind you?
Just stayed on top of it. Been drug tested frequently. And just like, put my focus more on football, school and stuff like that.

Inaudible
There’s a group of people I can’t hang with. I have to be more myself and stay away from that party scene. It was more like partying and going out. Every time I did it, it was me going out and partying.

How did this impact your family?
To be honest, my parents never really put me down or anything like that. They just wanted to see me do better. It was never like, ‘Oh, what did you do? Why did you do that?’ That type of deal. It was embarrassing for them, but it was never like trying to put me down or anything like that.

Inaudible
I spend a lot more time by myself now. I have a girlfriend now. I go to movies, chill, stuff like that. I don’t do much partying nowadays.

What led to the problem in the first place?
Honestly, it was more me going to parties and stuff like that. It was never really an addiction.

How do you prove this is not a pattern?
Like I said, I feel like everything is done and it’s out in the open. I never got away with anything. It’s all there.

What are your biggest strengths, weaknesses?
My biggest strength is pass rush. I’m relentless on the field. I think I can get better with like, my run-stopping abilities and playing within the framework of the defense.

Bosa and Decker said you’re a good guy. You like hearing that?
Yeah, it helps me a lot. I feel blessed to have them as my friends. I don’t feel like I was ever distrustful or a bad person to anybody. I just had a couple problems. I made some mistakes and that’s pretty much it.

Who did you lean on to help you through the tough times?
My Dad. I leaned on him a lot during the process.

What’s the most challenging question teams ask you about your past?
I haven’t really had many challenging questions. They’re all really question that I knew were coming so I just answer them.

What teams have you met with?
Giants, Kansas City, Ravens, Washington. That’s it right now.

When you were at EKU did you ever wonder how you got there?
No, I knew what I did. I knew why I was there and I knew it was a business trip for me. It’s a great school and I wanted to win and I knew going in what I wanted to do and what I wanted to get out of the situation.

How does it feel to have this well in your past?
It’s huge for me, especially with my drug tests and I’m still being drug tested to this day. It shows that I’ve grown from the situation and I’ve become a better person.

How often are you drug tested?
Every week now and I was on every drug test at Eastern Kentucky. After I failed at Ohio State (the first time) I was drug tested like twice a week up until I left.

Any linemen in the NFL that you would compare yourself to?
I like Justin Houston’s film a lot.

What was the year like for you at EKU?
It was a year for me to find myself. More so trying to become a better person.

Are you more of a defensive end or OLB?
Both. I don’t really see myself as more one than the other.

What can you tell us about your father?
Like I said, he’s a good general person. He doesn’t really get on me too much, but he like explains to me what I’ve done wrong and then we go about how I’m going to get better with the situation.

Feelings on EKU
I love my school. I love Eastern Kentucky. They took me in after I was suspended and that means the world to me. I mean, whatever I can do to help them is good.

What was it like playing at EKU vs. OSU
It’s still football. I didn’t feel much different except for the crowds being smaller. Everyone loved the games. It was still football.

What are your expectations for the draft?
I don’t have any expectations. I’m blessed to be in this situation. I didn’t think I’d be back here. Wherever I go is fine with me.

How tough was it watching OSU the last year?
I was happy for them. They’re still my brothers and stuff like that. I still care about those guys. I want to see them win and succeed.

Are you a risky pick for teams?
No. Not at all.

I heard most of that on Sirius last week.

He sounds like a smart, good kid who means well. If he's got a GF who can keep him out of the party scene he's better at that point than Johnny football.

Just like BA said you don't know what's in a kids head or heart & that's the million $$$ question. If his passion is NFL football & to be great, he'll probably succeed.
 

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yeah....girlfriend splits and he is right back on the party scene.

that interview is scary....as it really does not answer any questions..... the first half is pretty bad,...sketchy,...and the second half is all butterflies and unicorn piss...

does not matter to us anyway... he is gonna go before we draft most likely
 

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It is important to remember that Mathieu is the exception, and it is always risky when you are betting on an exception. Thinking patterns that lead to poor behaviors is a tough thing for a person to change. It isn't that it can't happen, but it is not the norm.
 

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It's really hard to say where he will end up going. Here are some comments and editorials about where he may end up going. I think if he makes it to the #29 selection the Cardinals would have to seriously consider him. The question would be do BA and SK believe getting him around guys like Fitz, Tyrann and Peterson be enough to keep him on the straight and narrow?

Walter Football: They have him ranked as anywhere from round 1 to round 3.

Spence overwhelmed weaker competition in 2015 with 63 tackles with 22.5 for a loss and 11.5 sacks. It weren't for off-the-field issues, Spence could be a high first-round pick. Other players with similar off-the-field issues of drug use and/or leaving their original school like Randy Gregory, Janoris Jenkins, or Tyrann Mathieu were all second-day picks.

Spence transferred to Eastern Kentucky and was arrested in May of 2015 for public intoxication.

These are from the NFL site.

Prisco has him going at #12 to the Saints, Brugler has him going #20 to the Jets and Rang has him going #29 to the Cardinals.

Hurt himself: Noah Spence, Eastern Kentucky
Like his former teammate Buckeyes teammate, Bosa, Spence entered the week with huge expectations after turning heads at the Senior Bowl. Unfortunately, he failed to deliver on the field -- posting relatively average results in every drill -- and reportedly didn't fare much better during interviews with teams.
 

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