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Is it just me or does it appear that Stanton struggles more against zone coverage than man to man?
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Yes. It's why he is a career backup.
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I thought he was too amped up today
He was throwing rockets -- but with poor trajectory. It just felt like he was pressing.
He was throwing rockets -- but with poor trajectory. It just felt like he was pressing.
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Seattle brought the pressure, this is something our coaching staff is going to need to be aware of for when we play them at home.
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At times-- but he missed some throws when the protection was fine. I am thinking the deep cross to Housler that was three feet over his head. The slant vs the blitz to Ellington -- all three of the throws were behind him.
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Agreed.
Still think BA limited our offense with too many 2-3 TE sets today regardless of Fitz being out.
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Stanton...... Is a back-up. 'Nuff said.
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I still feel that "backup" still give us a chance to play in the SB. With this D clicking so well, all Stanton needs to do is be a game manager. If Jaron Brown had caught that ball before half, this game would have been a whole lot different.
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How is this guy even in the NFL? He looked atrocious.
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How can you say that-----Stanton played against a Seattle defense that played (at home), today like the World Champs that they are. Remember, he is a backup QB. He has not yet acquired the leadership qualities necessary to be a successful starting QB in the NFL. He still might do so, but this is why he was a backup, and still is a backup. He knows the playbook, and he can operate the offense, but he cannot yet 'execute' the offense like a starter, nor can he 'command' the offensive roster like a starter.
He is still at the stage where he can come out doing neat stuff like he did early in the game last week when he threw 2 TD's. Once he threw an interception, however, he regressed in his bravado, and became very tentative. He has not yet learned how to get up off the deck after being knocked down. Palmer, and Warner could throw and interception, then come back and throw a TD. Stanton hasn't yet shown the ability to get back up after being knocked down.
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Stanton might be one of those guys who plays far better at home than on the road ( this also describes 1/2 of the starting QBs in the NFL)
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He has accuracy issues and a tendency to stare down receivers. That said, it would be helpful to have his #1 receiver and some semblance of a running game.
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THe parts of the game I saw I thought one of the keys is Seattle had us scouted well. Been saying for weeks Arians is using the TE's as decoys and then at key points in the game we throw to Niklas or throw a TE screen to Housler. It's almost like free money, nobody thinks we're using the TE's so when we need them, any play action at all or misdirection and one of them is uncovered. Seattle did a good job of sniffing those plays out and covering the TE.
There were 2-3 that I thought were supposed to be decoy plays to the TE where the Seattle defense covered them and Stanton had nowhere to go.
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agreed that and make the missed FG and we're up 10-9 at half.
Chopper0080
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If you struggle with speed off the edge and getting push in the run game, multi TE sets are a way to scheme past that. I thought the multi TE sets put us in the best position to succeed vs Seattle.
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Chopper I understand what you're saying, but the entire game plan was playing not to lose & relying entirely on your D to keep the game close. IMO if you're trying to finish the champs you go for the jugular, regardless of Fitz being out.
How did we operate on our only substantial drive of the game?
I just don't think the Hawks D is anywhere as dominate as last year. Btw our pass protection is mucho better than last year!
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Here is Rodgers stat line when he played there, and he's a vet. A vet that many think is the best young QB in the game. He finished with a QBR of 47. So it's tough for a starting vet to play there much less a career back up. It's just one game. I think your expectations are a bit high.
Chopper I understand what you're saying, but the entire game plan was playing not to lose & relying entirely on your D to keep the game close. IMO if you're trying to finish the champs you go for the jugular, regardless of Fitz being out.
How did we operate on our only substantial drive of the game?
I think the game plan played to Stanton not being very good. He plays scared, (wide eyed and trying to be comfortable in a moving pocket) it'll be interesting to see how the game plan changes over the next few weeks and the next time we play them at home.
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I give him a Mulligan for this game. O line was weak defense on both sides were great. Tough loss. Now if he doesn't get a win in Atlanta and plays poorly I hold the right to change my mind. The other really bad news is that we missed our star wide out, Larry. We could miss him again next Sunday and find us in the same spot.
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Chopper0080
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Chopper I understand what you're saying, but the entire game plan was playing not to lose & relying entirely on your D to keep the game close. IMO if you're trying to finish the champs you go for the jugular, regardless of Fitz being out.
How did we operate on our only substantial drive of the game?
OK, so when you are designing a game plan, you can't hammer on what the other team is trying to take away. Arians knew the Seahawks would scheme to take away the deep pass (which they did), and would force the Cardinals to string together long drives. In order to combat this, the Cards went with less spread sets to try and get better protection, better run success, and allow Stanton time to see the receivers clear rather than count on Stanton to throw with anticipation vs a top NFL secondary. Yes, Arians had a conservative game plan, but it was predicated on Seattle taking away big, splash plays.
I too agree with a Mulligan on this game. Let's be honest and we all pretty much knew we had a very little chance of winning in Seattle. At this point with the way our offense is playing, we have to almost play perfect when we have the ball against our remaining schedule. Our defense will continue to keep us in the game (done it all year) and we just need to find ways to have productive possessions. Don't need to score every time, but positive plays, etc.. Not that I can see it happening, but we need a blow out win to get that feeling that we can own an entire game opposed to winning it late. Let's hope we get that this upcoming weekend.
Chopper0080
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In the end, Stanton will need home field advantage throughout if he is going to take us to the Super Bowl. Going on the road, and outside venues in San Fran, Seattle, Green Bay, or Philly is just going to be too much for him to overcome if we don't.
a solid vet QB will see a zone quickly and pick it apart at the seams....a guy like Stanton cannot do that...man to man is easy to diagnose, but defenders are on multiple sides of the WR/RB/TE in a zone
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I don't think Stanton plays scared at all---that kid is tough. He's battling through inexperience and playing versus some very tough defenses---most recently the Rams, the Lions and the Seahawks (possibly the three most disruptive d-lines in the NFL). It takes time and experience for the game to slow down for a QB. Right now Stanton is learning and doing his best.
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