Officiating or Ted Ginn

[Jake6233]

I don't which one sucks harder

 

[gmabel830]

Drew Butler

 

[TimTheToolmanTebow]

the officiating was bad but when your opponent gains 6x more yards than you, you have more problems than officiating son

 

[Redneck Voodoo]

Drew Butler

No ****

 

[jbeecham]

Refs were horrible in the 3rd qtr... basically handed the Panthers 14 points & the game.

The Cards offense has been horrible today with Lindley, but they had a chance until that 3rd qtr.

I still don't understand the play where Cam Newton is getting sacked for an 8-10 yard loss, throws a lateral pass (still within the hash marks) without any eligible receiver in the area (OL aren't eligible) and somehow they rule incomplete pass & claim there's an eligible receiver. Oh & obviously the ball didn't get back to the line of scrimmage. They could've ruled it intentional grounding, they could've ruled it a fumble (because of the lateral), they could've ruled it "QB in the grasp".... instead it's an incomplete pass??? BS

Then you have them not calling PI on Floyd when the defender clearly grabbed his arm on a deep pass (called PI & holding on our DBs all day). That resulted in us punting & then came the 49yd screen pass where PP21 is blocked in the back so that he had no chance to make the tackle. He probably wouldn't have made the tackle anyways, but the refs didn't throw a flag. The Ginn's stupid decision to take the kickoff out of the endzone from 9 yds deep... fumble, recovered on the ground by the Cards, ball stripped again by a diving Panther & the refs give the Panthers the ball on the 1 (no review even though it was a turnover)... another TD for CAR. Ballgame.

 

[TRW]

Ryan Lindley

 

[Jay Cardinal]

The officiating was not great, but I am not putting it on them. Not with the aforementioned performances of Lindley, Ginn, and Butler.

Remember Lindley throwing the ball directly to Keuckly after the turnover on the 7 yard line? Ugh.

Finest defensive performance ever by the Panthers? OK....let's see how that holds up against Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers.

 

[Darkside]

All I know is that Ginn and Butler cost us field position all year and cost us points. If either are on the team next year I swear I'll gouge my eyes with paperclips.

 

[nashman]

Officials were atrocious and the right times to bury us!

 

[Russ Smith]

Refs were horrible in the 3rd qtr... basically handed the Panthers 14 points & the game.

The Cards offense has been horrible today with Lindley, but they had a chance until that 3rd qtr.

I still don't understand the play where Cam Newton is getting sacked for an 8-10 yard loss, throws a lateral pass (still within the hash marks) without any eligible receiver in the area (OL aren't eligible) and somehow they rule incomplete pass & claim there's an eligible receiver. Oh & obviously the ball didn't get back to the line of scrimmage. They could've ruled it intentional grounding, they could've ruled it a fumble (because of the lateral), they could've ruled it "QB in the grasp".... instead it's an incomplete pass??? BS

Then you have them not calling PI on Floyd when the defender clearly grabbed his arm on a deep pass (called PI & holding on our DBs all day). That resulted in us punting & then came the 49yd screen pass where PP21 is blocked in the back so that he had no chance to make the tackle. He probably wouldn't have made the tackle anyways, but the refs didn't throw a flag. The Ginn's stupid decision to take the kickoff out of the endzone from 9 yds deep... fumble, recovered on the ground by the Cards, ball stripped again by a diving Panther & the refs give the Panthers the ball on the 1 (no review even though it was a turnover)... another TD for CAR. Ballgame.

I get the no fumble call they ruled that the ball was not thrown backwards it was thrown forwards but the contact caused it to go backwards. If that's how the rule is written, and Hochuli said so, then no problem. My issue was no grounding there was a receiver in the area, that basically says you can NEVER call grounding on a play where the QB is hit and throws it away because the hit causes teh ball to go in a different direction and thus he MIGHT have been throwing to someone.

I thought the rule was clear, has to be outside the pocket, ball has to go past the LOS, he did neither on that play.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

Did you see that one punt where he called for a fair catch when there was no one within 10 yds of him. The lead tackler fell down and there was no one else anywhere near him.

All year he seemed like he didn't ever want to have to catch and run the ball back. I personally think he is truly scared out there. The times I remember him fielding a punt he ran as fast as he could to the sidelines and out of bounds.

Wonder sometimes why the coaches don't see the same things we do on TV in there film rooms. Somethings like Ginn are so obvious.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I personally think he is truly scared out there.

Wonder sometimes why the coaches don't see the same things we do on TV in there film rooms. Somethings like Ginn are so obvious.

This. Ginn looked scared all year. What the coaching staff saw in him to stay with him for so long I don't know