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Many a time one should think whether you, an average NFL fan, knows more than professional NFL coaches. The past three weeks is not one of those times. The coaches and to an extent the players had a chance to remedy themselves and throw doubts into negative patterns displayed in first two weeks. Alas, they decided to confirm the worst fears about this team.

One can gripe about the lack of talent at several positions. And this is when coaching comes into play. Good coaches identify the lack of talent and scheme to limit the negative impact and enhance their talented players skills by putting them in good positions to get production above their skill levels. Neither the head coach nor both coordinators have showed they can do this in 3 games. Examples are everywhere in all 3 games and many are repetitive in nature.

The example that mystifies is the repetitive inability of coaches to keep David Johnson in the game. With Cardinals up 14-0, Chase Edmonds played an entire series in place of Johnson against the Bears. Bears promptly forced a third and out and momentum started to shift. What the Cardinals needed at 14-0 is to keep the chains moving. This task is easier with the team's best offensive skill player in David Johnson. Another biggest mistake is to not have David Johnson on the game's most critical play 3rd and 2 in the 4th quarter.

The whole NFL world knows Micthell Tribusky has not been good reading defenses. Even when Tribusky reads a defense is not always accurate throwing the ball. In this scenario, the smart play would be to sell out to stop the run and let Tribusky beat you with pass. And the Cardinals, curiously, let Jordan Howard and Tariq Cohen move the chains more often than not. This made life easy for Tribusky. It didn't appear Cardinals got better on their run defense as game went on. The inability to stop the run against Redskins and Bears when it mattered most cost the Cardinals defense dearly.

Starting with Wilk's inability to identify Jamar Taylor as a liability in preseason despite being a Defensive Backs coach, not having a pulse on defense's ability to stop the run, starting with a scheme that keeps your better line backer Deone Buccanon on side lines and being a near liability with in-game situation calls, it is right for an NFL average fan following the Cardinals to see that this coaching staff may not know more than you.

It may be too early to know if Wilks is the answer but the fact most Cardinal fans have this question three games into Wilk's regime shows, at least the near-term, future is very bleak.

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It's not all on the staff. There's some bone headed s*** going on out there.

But it's hard to cover for an over the hill leader trying to recapture some semblance of himself with less talent surrounding him.
 
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It's not all on the staff. There's some bone headed s*** going on out there.

But it's hard to cover for an over the hill leader trying to recapture some semblance of himself with less talent surrounding him.

Care to explain who you meant by "over the hill leader......."? I cannot decipher
 

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Many a time one should think whether you, an average NFL fan, knows more than professional NFL coaches. The past three weeks is not one of those times. The coaches and to an extent the players had a chance to remedy themselves and throw doubts into negative patterns displayed in first two weeks. Alas, they decided to confirm the worst fears about this team.

One can gripe about the lack of talent at several positions. And this is when coaching comes into play. Good coaches identify the lack of talent and scheme to limit the negative impact and enhance their talented players skills by putting them in good positions to get production above their skill levels. Neither the head coach nor both coordinators have showed they can do this in 3 games. Examples are everywhere in all 3 games and many are repetitive in nature.

The example that mystifies is the repetitive inability of coaches to keep David Johnson in the game. With Cardinals up 14-0, Chase Edmonds played an entire series in place of Johnson against the Bears. Bears promptly forced a third and out and momentum started to shift. What the Cardinals needed at 14-0 is to keep the chains moving. This task is easier with the team's best offensive skill player in David Johnson. Another biggest mistake is to not have David Johnson on the game's most critical play 3rd and 2 in the 4th quarter.

The whole NFL world knows Micthell Tribusky has not been good reading defenses. Even when Tribusky reads a defense is not always accurate throwing the ball. In this scenario, the smart play would be to sell out to stop the run and let Tribusky beat you with pass. And the Cardinals, curiously, let Jordan Howard and Tariq Cohen move the chains more often than not. This made life easy for Tribusky. It didn't appear Cardinals got better on their run defense as game went on. The inability to stop the run against Redskins and Bears when it mattered most cost the Cardinals defense dearly.

Starting with Wilk's inability to identify Jamar Taylor as a liability in preseason despite being a Defensive Backs coach, not having a pulse on defense's ability to stop the run, starting with a scheme that keeps your better line backer Deone Buccanon on side lines and being a near liability with in-game situation calls, it is right for an NFL average fan following the Cardinals to see that this coaching staff may not know more than you.

It may be too early to know if Wilks is the answer but the fact most Cardinal fans have this question three games into Wilk's regime shows, at least the near-term, future is very bleak.

Arz101

That's an interesting post, except for a couple of things:


1. We shredded the bears defense in the first quarter, and it was a combination of a good scheme + good execution. For a moment, it looked like the Cardinals had figured it out on offense. Then the play calling went back to pop warner level.

2. Taylor had a decent day in the secondary. Maybe he wasn't great, but he wasn't a ghost either, and he made some plays.


However, like you, I'm losing faith in this coaching staff. Too many questionable decisions.
 
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That's an interesting post, except for a couple of things:


1. We shredded the bears defense in the first quarter, and it was a combination of a good scheme + good execution. For a moment, it looked like the Cardinals had figured it out on offense. Then the play calling went back to pop warner level.

2. Taylor had a decent day in the secondary. Maybe he wasn't great, but he wasn't a ghost either, and he made some plays.


However, like you, I'm losing faith in this coaching staff. Too many questionable decisions.

1. So the adjustments did the Cardinals in after first drive. That is on coaching again.

2. Jamar had one decent half against a less than average NFL QB.
 
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Bradford.

No pun intended. It never occurred to me some one would call Bradford a leader. Thanks for clarifying.

Again this is a coaching thing. Why? Bills knew AJ McCarron was not the answer after first few practices and adjusted accordingly by throwing him to garbage. Reflects poorly on everyone from Keim, Wilks, McCoy to Leftwich.
 

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I'm just happy we didn't pay 8 mil to Deone Bucannon to sit on the bench as it has always been obvious he is not a read and react LB. #JoeFanTakes
 

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Do we think afte the first quarter, Bradford got worse or just bad play calling from McCoy. I'm thinking the latter. Bradford was holding strong the in pocket. Threw a perfectly tossed ball to DJ in the end zone. He couldn't have just forgot all that in less then a quarter. I think mccoy's change of pace play calling did the offense in.
 

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Do we think afte the first quarter, Bradford got worse or just bad play calling from McCoy. I'm thinking the latter. Bradford was holding strong the in pocket. Threw a perfectly tossed ball to DJ in the end zone. He couldn't have just forgot all that in less then a quarter. I think mccoy's change of pace play calling did the offense in.
He got hit, hard
 

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When you call plays where your receivers are only running comeback or horizontal routes, your offense will sputter.
Yep.

Once the Cards got up 14 they took the personality of its HC, which was pound the rock, play defense & try to hang on. McCoy didn’t want to take risks & Bradford didn’t want to turn over the ball, which he failed in once the game got tight.

If Wilks is going to succeed as an NFL HC he’s got to re-evaluate his conservative run first philosophy or he’s going to get fired soon. At 14 point lead is nothing in this league & you have to be aggressive to win
 

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End of the first half , Bradford takes a sack on third down with about 40 seconds left. Takes the team out of FG range...that's the players fault.

Although it didn't result in points , cards sideline calls a timeout on fourth down. Effectively giving the bears a chance at the end of the half to do something. That's a coach that appears to be in over his head.

I'd say at this point the players and coaches are underperforming. That's the GMs fault.

Barring a drastic improvement over the next few weeks , I see a complete overhaul in the off season. And I am an optimist at heart .
 

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That's an interesting post, except for a couple of things:


1. We shredded the bears defense in the first quarter, and it was a combination of a good scheme + good execution. For a moment, it looked like the Cardinals had figured it out on offense. Then the play calling went back to pop warner level.

2. Taylor had a decent day in the secondary. Maybe he wasn't great, but he wasn't a ghost either, and he made some plays.


However, like you, I'm losing faith in this coaching staff. Too many questionable decisions.

We "shredded" the bears defense on exactly one series, the first series.
 

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Yep.

Once the Cards got up 14 they took the personality of its HC, which was pound the rock, play defense & try to hang on. McCoy didn’t want to take risks & Bradford didn’t want to turn over the ball, which he failed in once the game got tight.

If Wilks is going to succeed as an NFL HC he’s got to re-evaluate his conservative run first philosophy or he’s going to get fired soon. At 14 point lead is nothing in this league & you have to be aggressive to win
I agree with this post but I place the blame on McCoy for the play calling, not Bradford for trying to run the plays.
 

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DJ not being the ball carrier on 3rd and short, tells me all I need to know about McCoy.


No wait.... Actually all the jobs he's been fired from... before we brought him in to be our OC, tells me that.
 

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Do we think afte the first quarter, Bradford got worse or just bad play calling from McCoy. I'm thinking the latter. Bradford was holding strong the in pocket. Threw a perfectly tossed ball to DJ in the end zone. He couldn't have just forgot all that in less then a quarter. I think mccoy's change of pace play calling did the offense in.

It totally did. He felt he had a comfortable lead in the FIRST QUARTER. Newsflash McCoy...in today's NFL...you don't sit on a lead and pump your chest out. Not in the 1sr quarter. Not in the second quarter. Not in the 3rd quarter. Idiot.
 

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I agree with this post but I place the blame on McCoy for the play calling, not Bradford for trying to run the plays.
I still say the 2 go hand in hand.

Let’s just agree both aren’t anything more than mediocre at best. Imo the 2 together are a recipe for disaster.
 

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Blame Keim as well. I'm beginning to think he was drunk all year. Throws big money at Bradford, decent money at Glennon to be a 3rd string QB, did not sign one impact type player at any position and lost players at impact positions. At this current rate, I don't see this team winning one game. Oh, this blind squirrel might find an acorn or 2 because it seems it's just as hard to go 0-16 than it is to go 16-0 but there is not one game on this schedule we can pencil in as a win. Not one. We're in for a long year guys. Now maybe our fortunes change if we go with Rosen but even then I don't see more than 5 wins at best.
 

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It totally did. He felt he had a comfortable lead in the FIRST QUARTER. Newsflash McCoy...in today's NFL...you don't sit on a lead and pump your chest out. Not in the 1sr quarter. Not in the second quarter. Not in the 3rd quarter. Idiot.
Unless you’re playing against the 2018 Cardinals.
 

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This feels like the last few games of the Whisenhunt era. The lack of enthusiasm from the fanbase and players is palpable. The only thing we have to look forward to are potential firings and Josh Rosen.

I don't know where this team goes from here. You can't just limp through the next 14 weeks and wait for changes next year. And you can't let Rosen be poisoned by the clear dysfunction throughout the organization.
 

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