Once upon a time

[DiamondBacks5117]

looks decent ill check it out see if its worth while.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

Steve

 

[AzStevenCal]

I don't think it lasts the season. Too dismal and dreary for us happy folk and too light for the people that like dark and edgy.

Steve

 

[Griffin]

I thought it was interesting, but I don't know if enough people would watch it for ABC to keep it on.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I thought it was interesting, but I don't know if enough people would watch it for ABC to keep it on.

it got really big numbers out of the gate for an hour long drama. if it holds 70% of it, it'll be a hit... especially on ABC where a lot of their new stuff has cratered fast as Angels is already canceled and Pan Am's about to have the plug pulled on it.

 

[Stout]

It wasn't bad. I'll be checking it out a few more times.

 

[Pariah]

I liked it okay, but Bill Willingham should be gathering a cabal of lawyers for one helluva lawsuit. link

 

[Stout]

I liked it okay, but Bill Willingham should be gathering a cabal of lawyers for one helluva lawsuit. link

Good luck with that, Bill. It is ABC and used a bunch of Disney stuff...no way in heck he takes down the evil empire.

 

[Pariah]

Good luck with that, Bill. It is ABC and used a bunch of Disney stuff...no way in heck he takes down the evil empire.

He's not suing, I'm just making the point that this show is a ripoff of his Fables property.

 

[Russ Smith]

We liked the debut, I'm not sure how far you can take it but first show was interesting.

 

[Pariah]

We liked the debut, I'm not sure how far you can take it but first show was interesting.

If the Fables comic book is any indication, there are endless storylines you can take. Fables worked well because you had various characters with their own agendas and motivations. I suspect Once Upon a Time will go that direction eventually, too--doing more character-driven arcs within the larger mythology of the show.

 

[DiamondBacks5117]

after two epidodes liked it a lot better than i thought i would good show.

 

[AzStevenCal]

after two epidodes liked it a lot better than i thought i would good show.

I like the show but I have serious doubts about it lasting long enough to tell the whole story. I'm staying current with it but I'm giving serious thoughts about shelving it and waiting for Netflix streaming. I like shows with continuing stories but all too often the Networks pull the plug without providing closure. I'm still dealing with anger issues over the cancellation of Rubicon.

Steve

 

[Stout]

I like the show but I have serious doubts about it lasting long enough to tell the whole story. I'm staying current with it but I'm giving serious thoughts about shelving it and waiting for Netflix streaming. I like shows with continuing stories but all too often the Networks pull the plug without providing closure. I'm still dealing with anger issues over the cancellation of Rubicon.

Steve

On the contrary, I can't get into a show without a continuing story. It's why I can't get into Law and Order in any way, shape or form. Some of them are fantastic shows, but I never feel as if there's anything at stake, because it's all wrapped up nicely at the end of the show.

Once Upon a Time seems to be doing well so far, and it has my attention.

 

[AzStevenCal]

On the contrary, I can't get into a show without a continuing story. It's why I can't get into Law and Order in any way, shape or form. Some of them are fantastic shows, but I never feel as if there's anything at stake, because it's all wrapped up nicely at the end of the show.

Once Upon a Time seems to be doing well so far, and it has my attention.

Well, that's not really contrary to my position. I like continuing stories, I'm just a little gunshy when it comes to committing to them because networks have treated them so poorly in the past.

Even when the show does fairly well, they'll often force them to alter their continuing story lines so as to accommodate the occasional viewer. And more often than not it will damage if not ruin the show. Add to that the fact they rarely feel the need to provide closure when they decide to cancel and it becomes a risky proposition to get emotionally attached to this kind of program. I still do it but I'm getting more leery every season and Netflix gives me an easy out. I haven't quite decided yet whether to go this route with Once Upon A Time and if the ratings numbers stay strong I'll probably keep current.

Steve

 

[Stout]

Well, that's not really contrary to my position. I like continuing stories, I'm just a little gunshy when it comes to committing to them because networks have treated them so poorly in the past.

Even when the show does fairly well, they'll often force them to alter their continuing story lines so as to accommodate the occasional viewer. And more often than not it will damage if not ruin the show. Add to that the fact they rarely feel the need to provide closure when they decide to cancel and it becomes a risky proposition to get emotionally attached to this kind of program. I still do it but I'm getting more leery every season and Netflix gives me an easy out. I haven't quite decided yet whether to go this route with Once Upon A Time and if the ratings numbers stay strong I'll probably keep current.

Steve

I hear what you're preaching, brother. The bolded above is what killed Twin Peaks. Lynch never meant to give up the big reveal, and it basically ended it.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I hear what you're preaching, brother. The bolded above is what killed Twin Peaks. Lynch never meant to give up the big reveal, and it basically ended it.

Yeah, it went from being special to drably ordinary. I didn't realize though that it was the network that pushed that on him. Not surprising.

Steve

 

[Stout]

Yeah, it went from being special to drably ordinary. I didn't realize though that it was the network that pushed that on him. Not surprising.

Steve

Supposedly the network was getting all kinds of write-in pressure from viewership. The network should have let him wait until the end of the season, so the show would have still been solid. Instead, the idiots did what idiot network execs do, and ruined the show.

 

[Griffin]

I'm still watching this, but I'm starting not to care how all this will turn out. The problem with a show about characters from fairly tales is that these characters are often shallow, one-dimensional and not very interesting. Also, I find that kid really annoying.

 

[Pariah]

I'm still watching this, but I'm starting not to care how all this will turn out. The problem with a show about characters from fairly tales is that these characters are often shallow, one-dimensional and not very interesting. Also, I find that kid really annoying.

I think they're setting up a story that will flesh out the characters.

~In the flash-back Snow said to Charming that she ruined the Queen's life. That motivation for the queen to become wicked and evil should serve to provide depth to her character.
~Also in the flashback, we get some backstory from Snow White, her capabilities and an interesting dynamic between she and Charming.

These are story elements that help the characters become more than one-dimensional. The characters in this show are not just "good" or "evil" or "handsome" or "ugly" as they might be painted in a fairytale. They're getting fleshed out quite a bit more than that...and I suspect will continue to be.

My biggest problem with it is that I still think it's pretty easy to draw a parallel between this show and Willingham's "Fables." I even suspect the sherrif is the Big Bad Wolf, just as he is in Fables (there though, his name is Bigby).

 

[Cheesebeef]

this is far and away the breakout smash hit of the network TV season. Happy for Lana Parilla who played Dr. Zambrano on Miami Medical.

 

[Stout]

Yeah, I am definitely enjoying this show thus far. Grimm? Haven't watched past the pilot.

 

[Pariah]

For some reason Grimm stopped recording for me. I saw the pilot, liked it okay, and then I've never seen another one pop up on my DVR.

 

[Pariah]

This week's episode (the one that focused on the huntsman) was really good.

 

[Stout]

This week's episode (the one that focused on the huntsman) was really good.

Agreed. I like how the show doesn't shy away from dark edges either.