Orlando Hudson trade rumor

[Ryanwb]

I heard this one from a family friend who works with a major league baseball team.

The Chicago White Sox are hot for Orlando Hudson and are trying to get the D'backs to enter as a third team in a deal for Buehrle who would go to either the Red Sox or the Yankees.

From what I understand the D'backs have been quietly seeing what Hudson is worth on the market along with Eric Byrnes but Hudson got wind of this from his agent which would explain his recent comments about "not being back" and is very unhappy with D'backs management.

That's all I got

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Well, we do have an extensive history dealing with the Sox. Not sure why they'd trade Buehrle though as they got him for a very good price for a pitcher of his caliber.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Trading Hudson and keeping Byrnes doesn't make sense to me. Hudson has been an excellent defender, and while Byrnes is a decent player we have a surplus of great outfield prospects. I would be open to trading Byrnes and a prospect for some power at a corner infield position.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

If history tells us anything this Byrnes fasciantion will stop pretty quickly here. Here's a quick glance at good ole' Byrnes' OPS before the AS Break and after since he came into the league, very comparable the 100 point drop in OPS Darin Erstad suffers throughout his career. In the immortal words of John Wooden - never mistake activity for achievement.

Pre All Star 851
Post All-Star 679

 

[overseascardfan]

I heard this one from a family friend who works with a major league baseball team.

The Chicago White Sox are hot for Orlando Hudson and are trying to get the D'backs to enter as a third team in a deal for Buehrle who would go to either the Red Sox or the Yankees.

From what I understand the D'backs have been quietly seeing what Hudson is worth on the market along with Eric Byrnes but Hudson got wind of this from his agent which would explain his recent comments about "not being back" and is very unhappy with D'backs management.

That's all I got

Yankees/Red Sox and White Sox. Who would we get?

 

[Ryanwb]

Yankees/Red Sox and White Sox. Who would we get?

I didn't get details I was just told that the White Sox want Hudson in the worst way.

 

[HooverDam]

Well (as Im sure is the case w/ all Dbacks fans) I'd much rather see Byrnes moved than Hudson. The Dbacks have a lot of probably won't miss OF prospects, can't say the same thing about 2B. I'd love to move Byrnes, especially if it netted a minor league arm, but Hudson? They need to hold on to him, All Star/Gold Glove Second Baseman don't grow on trees, and he's great to have back there behind a ground ball pitcher like Webb.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Man we better not trade hudson he is a great at fielding which is hard to find and is a pretty good batter we need to keep him I would defintally have us rather trade Byrnes

 

[Mulli]

Well, we do have an extensive history dealing with the Sox. Not sure why they'd trade Buehrle though as they got him for a very good price for a pitcher of his caliber.

No way they trade Buehrle now. No way. But I am pretty sure Javier Vasquez is available along with Dye, Contreras, and other wonderful players.

 

[CardEd]

The d-backs mgmt might be thinking of drew to 2B, Upton back to his natural position SS, thus opens up the the log jam of talent in the outfield. Leaving Hudson as the odd man out?

 

[dbUNIT16]

Trading Byrnes and Hudson makes no sense. We are already so young, we do need some veterans, and these guys have been outstanding for us! We trade them to get more youth and this team falls from a playoff contender to last place.

 

[JS22]

Trading Byrnes and Hudson makes no sense. We are already so young, we do need some veterans, and these guys have been outstanding for us! We trade them to get more youth and this team falls from a playoff contender to last place.

Unfortunately, the dbacks are a small market team and can't afford to keep both. Not to mention that they're STILL paying nearly 20 million a year in deferred payments from what I hear.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

First off, if a pitcher is coming back to Arizona for Hudson, it's going to be Jose Contreras. There's zero percent of a chance that they trade Buherle after re-signing him to a fair market value price, and the likelihood of them giving up Garland is pretty low.

I know that they've actively shopped Vazquez and Contreras, and being Vazquez was a "been there, done that" experiment gone somewhat wrong (it DID net Arizona Chris Young, and indirectly Yuserimo Petit so it wasn't a total loss), it leads me to believe that the pitcher coming back here would be Contreras. Unless that is, they decide to move Gio Gonzalez (unlikely), Gavin Floyd or John Danks (again, unlikely).

The d-backs mgmt might be thinking of drew to 2B, Upton back to his natural position SS, thus opens up the the log jam of talent in the outfield. Leaving Hudson as the odd man out?

I hate the idea of trading Hudson, but this sounds like the most logical reason as to why.

That being said, rumors I continue to hear have them either giving the job to Emilio Bonificio (who is the perfect leadoff hitter, fast as hell, decent stick), or putting Callaspo there full time. I've also heard grumblings that Reynolds could be moved to 2B, but he's better suited in either of the hot corner spots and Upton's going to be used in the OF.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Trading Hudson and keeping Byrnes doesn't make sense to me. Hudson has been an excellent defender, and while Byrnes is a decent player we have a surplus of great outfield prospects. I would be open to trading Byrnes and a prospect for some power at a corner infield position.

Trading Hudson is so WRONG for a number of reasons... BUT, where are all of these "great outfield prospects" you speak of???

 

[HooverDam]

Trading Hudson is so WRONG for a number of reasons... BUT, where are all of these "great outfield prospects" you speak of???

Justin Upton, Carlos Gonzalez, Chris Young and yes even still Carlos Quentin. You've got them all pegged as busts already?

Diamondback Jay, if the Dbacks trade Hudson for Contreras, that would be ridiculous. I don't see the point of trading a Gold Glove, All Star Second Baseman (especially when you don't have an All World prospect right behind him), for a guy w/ a 35 year old pitcher w/ an ERA over 5 (though lifetime is ERA is a more reasonable 4.4, but still, he's a middle to lower end rotation guy).

 

[overseascardfan]

First off, if a pitcher is coming back to Arizona for Hudson, it's going to be Jose Contreras. There's zero percent of a chance that they trade Buherle after re-signing him to a fair market value price, and the likelihood of them giving up Garland is pretty low.

I know that they've actively shopped Vazquez and Contreras, and being Vazquez was a "been there, done that" experiment gone somewhat wrong (it DID net Arizona Chris Young, and indirectly Yuserimo Petit so it wasn't a total loss), it leads me to believe that the pitcher coming back here would be Contreras. Unless that is, they decide to move Gio Gonzalez (unlikely), Gavin Floyd or John Danks (again, unlikely).



I hate the idea of trading Hudson, but this sounds like the most logical reason as to why.

That being said, rumors I continue to hear have them either giving the job to Emilio Bonificio (who is the perfect leadoff hitter, fast as hell, decent stick), or putting Callaspo there full time. I've also heard grumblings that Reynolds could be moved to 2B, but he's better suited in either of the hot corner spots and Upton's going to be used in the OF.

I hope they aren't dumb enough to be coveting Contreras who is getting up their in age. IMO he is not of equal value to Orlando by a long shot. I think one or two of the P prospects you mentioned would be a fair trade as Danks and Floyd are full of potential but aren't exactly having much success in the bigs. Also if there is a possibility of us getting a Konerko in return that would give us our big bat at the cleanup spot.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Justin Upton, Carlos Gonzalez, Chris Young and yes even still Carlos Quentin. You've got them all pegged as busts already?

Diamondback Jay, if the Dbacks trade Hudson for Contreras, that would be ridiculous. I don't see the point of trading a Gold Glove, All Star Second Baseman (especially when you don't have an All World prospect right behind him), for a guy w/ a 35 year old pitcher w/ an ERA over 5 (though lifetime is ERA is a more reasonable 4.4, but still, he's a middle to lower end rotation guy).

"Great Outfield Prospects"??? No, I certainly don't have them all pegged a "busts" - with the exception of Quentin of course... But "great"???
C'mon man... Upton shows a "great" deal of promise. But Gonzalez?
And Young shows some promise as well... Needs to find a way to be much more consistent... But "great"??? Uh uh....

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Justin Upton, Carlos Gonzalez, Chris Young and yes even still Carlos Quentin. You've got them all pegged as busts already?

Diamondback Jay, if the Dbacks trade Hudson for Contreras, that would be ridiculous. I don't see the point of trading a Gold Glove, All Star Second Baseman (especially when you don't have an All World prospect right behind him), for a guy w/ a 35 year old pitcher w/ an ERA over 5 (though lifetime is ERA is a more reasonable 4.4, but still, he's a middle to lower end rotation guy).

I'm not in favor of Contreras either, I think at this point, with this team he's useless. I'd rather see them go after Gonzalez, Danks or Floyd (a package would be nice) but sadly, I think the White Sox are steadfast on trading any of the three. Then again, 18 months ago, Brandon McCarthy was off limits too.

Overseas, from what I've heard, Konerko isn't being shopped, but Crede could be had for the right price. Take that for what it's worth.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

"Great Outfield Prospects"??? No, I certainly don't have them all pegged a "busts" - with the exception of Quentin of course... But "great"???
C'mon man... Upton shows a "great" deal of promise. But Gonzalez?
And Young shows some promise as well... Needs to find a way to be much more consistent... But "great"??? Uh uh....

Joe, it's way too early to dub any of these guys "busts" yet, including Quentin.

Remember my man, it's a marathon, not a sprint

 

[ASUCHRIS]

"Great Outfield Prospects"??? No, I certainly don't have them all pegged a "busts" - with the exception of Quentin of course... But "great"???
C'mon man... Upton shows a "great" deal of promise. But Gonzalez?
And Young shows some promise as well... Needs to find a way to be much more consistent... But "great"??? Uh uh....

I don't know what you qualify as great, but Upton, Gonzalez and Young are all considered elite outfield prospects. These are not the baby backs who were all flash in the pan prospects.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

"Great Outfield Prospects"??? No, I certainly don't have them all pegged a "busts" - with the exception of Quentin of course... But "great"???
C'mon man... Upton shows a "great" deal of promise. But Gonzalez?
And Young shows some promise as well... Needs to find a way to be much more consistent... But "great"??? Uh uh....

Justin Upton is arguably the best prospect in the entire game right now, so yeah, "great" is a pretty accurate term for him.

 

[overseascardfan]

I'm not in favor of Contreras either, I think at this point, with this team he's useless. I'd rather see them go after Gonzalez, Danks or Floyd (a package would be nice) but sadly, I think the White Sox are steadfast on trading any of the three. Then again, 18 months ago, Brandon McCarthy was off limits too.

Overseas, from what I've heard, Konerko isn't being shopped, but Crede could be had for the right price. Take that for what it's worth.

Konerko in fact is not being shopped right now but if CHI falls out of the playoff picture that rumored fire sale we have been hearing about might change things.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Konerko in fact is not being shopped right now but if CHI falls out of the playoff picture that rumored fire sale we have been hearing about might change things.

Correct.

At this point, with exception of Garland and Buherle, none of them being traded would especially "overwhelm" me with shock.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Joe, it's way too early to dub any of these guys "busts" yet, including Quentin.

Remember my man, it's a marathon, not a sprint

I hear ya Jay.... As I said, Upton and Gonzalez show promise, but have done zippo in the bigs. And Young has been "great" at being consistently inconsistent.
Quentin? At best, he will be a .260 hitter who in a good year, will get you 25 dingers... I honestly believe his best MLB years are behind him - which is too bad, but true...

 

[HooverDam]

I hear ya Jay.... As I said, Upton and Gonzalez show promise, but have done zippo in the bigs. And Young has been "great" at being consistently inconsistent.
Quentin? At best, he will be a .260 hitter who in a good year, will get you 25 dingers... I honestly believe his best MLB years are behind him - which is too bad, but true...

Man what a cynic. Young has been fantastic on defense, his bat isn't there yet, but I see no reason to think why it won't be eventually.

In the words of my Dad "you seem like a bad doctor, no patients"