Palmer Throwing to Spots?

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Watching the game it seems that Palmer was (a) feeling pressure that wasn't there; and (b) throwing to spots rather than adjusting his throw to the receiver.

The Pick Six:

I know even BA said the play was Fitz's fault, but, Fitz clearly was running an option route wherein he knows he can fade or fan out if the route gets jumped inside, as it clearly did. Terence Newman was playing the spot rather than Fitzgerald---he was sitting right in it. Fitz did exactly what he should have done, which is go opposite of where Newman bit on the play. An experienced QB should be able to read that play, just as point guard reads a pick and roll. If the defender is inside---you throw it outside. If the defender is outside---you throw it inside.

When Warner was performing his magic---he rarely looked to Fitzgerald on 3rd downs---because he knew that defenses key on him and the typical hot spots. So, instead, Warner used one on one mismatches with Steve Breaston and even Jerhemy Urban on occasion because he knew they would be one on one and he could key on where the one defender was.

The Missed TDs to Floyd:

The first one was disrupted by illegal contact by the DB.

But the second one should have been an easy TD. Yes, Floyd slowed his route just a tad, but Carson Palmer threw to the pylon as if Floyd would have been tightly covered.

Now---coaches like Bruce Arians design routes to be throw to exact spots---like the TD to Fitz in PS game one---right to the near post.

However, a QB has to be able to adjust when the timing of the play has been slightly interrupted. Even though the new rules would seemingly allow crisper, more precise routes, there still is going to be some resistance by the defense---and some double teaming.

By design, Palmer should avoid throwing into the middle of the field on 3rd downs unless he has single coverage in there, or it is off a RB delay.

The Patriots use a RB option route all the time, where once the TE and slot WR clear out the middle, the RB goes straight out and then cuts opposite of where his defender is. if the defender is even the RB always cuts to the right, but if the defender is shading the right, the RB cuts left. Tom Brady reads this play and converts it with tremendous success, because he and his RB have the same keys Go right if even---go left if shaded right.
 

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Mitch-----I agree that Palmer needs to stay away from Fitz on most third down conversions, (as he is still viewed around the league as our #1 WR, and thus will almost always have double coverage). He had triple on the interception that was returned for the TD.

Palmer may have been more inclined to go to Floyd, (which he did successfully in the two previous games), except Floyd was obviously hampered by the pulled groin, and was slow. This was evidenced by the two big overthrows in this game.

That may be why he went back to Fitz on third down conversions. I believe he often goes to the TE Carlson on third down in practice. Apparently BA was not tipping this off to the league in a pre-season game. I believe that the injury to Floyd, and the restrictions placed on keeping our TE's hush-hush, is why Palmer went to Fitz. I don't believe Palmer felt comfortable with the play calls sent in, but tried to make it work. This may have been a stroke of genius on BA's part, as people will still have the 'indecisive' Palmer on their minds as we enter the regular season. Palmer is not likey to play against San Diego on the road Thursday evening.

Of course, that still does not explain why Palmer threw into triple coverage when Fitz cut up the field.
 

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It was hard to tell on replay when Palmer threw it. He seemed to be saying he'd already let it go when Fitz broke off the route, in that case that's why Arians said it was Fitz' fault.

To me when a QB throws into triple coverage it's almost never the fault of a WR if it's picked off, but Arians defended Palmer on several of those last year too.
 

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Every QB in the NFL throws to a spot. Just in the physical time that it takes for a QB to go through his throwing motion and the ball to fly from one place to the next is enough for many NFL-level passing windows to close.
 

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Every QB in the NFL throws to a spot. Just in the physical time that it takes for a QB to go through his throwing motion and the ball to fly from one place to the next is enough for many NFL-level passing windows to close.

This times ten... making decisions past it only takes place when a play breaks down!
 

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