Panthers release DE Everette Brown

[Unsterblich856]

http://thesidelineview.com/columns/caplans-nfl-corner/source-panthers-cut-former-second-rounder

Todd McShay said he was a perfect fit for the 3-4. Was a 2nd rounder two years ago and was probably too small for the 4-3, I would be ecstatic if we get him through the waiver wire.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

http://thesidelineview.com/columns/caplans-nfl-corner/source-panthers-cut-former-second-rounder

Todd McShay said he was a perfect fit for the 3-4. Was a 2nd rounder two years ago and was probably too small for the 4-3, I would be ecstatic if we get him through the waiver wire.

He was great in college, was supposed to be a 1st rounder. He's still young, and could excel in the 3-4. Would be dumb not to bring him in.

 

[joeshmo]

Carolina traded a 1st rounder just to go him, so do not take lightly them cutting him after only two seasons. Showed zero to no skill in those two years. They replaced him with George Selvie a 7th round pick last year who did nothing for the Rams.

Maybe you can chalk it up to him not being in the right system, but I would still have my doubts.

 

[Early]

He was on the all rookie team I remember. Also, according to the metrics he had the most pressures on the QB of all rookies next to Matthews and 2.5 sacks the first year and 3.5 the next, all with many injuries in his second year.

That is actually good for a position that takes time to learn usually.

I don't think he is a fit for Carolina. He is not a good run defender, but as pass rusher, he is a great talent.

Cardinals should sign him.

 

[Ed Burmila]

Yeah, this looks a lot like a new coaching staff cutting ties with the lousy mistakes made by the previous one.

 

[40yearfan]

He only started 3 games for them in the 2 years he was there. Couldn't break into the starting line-up.

 

[Mitch]

He was on the all rookie team I remember. Also, according to the metrics he had the most pressures on the QB of all rookies next to Matthews and 2.5 sacks the first year and 3.5 the next, all with many injuries in his second year.

That is actually good for a position that takes time to learn usually.

I don't think he is a fit for Carolina. He is not a good run defender, but as pass rusher, he is a great talent.

Cardinals should sign him.

I agree with this---he brings an element the Cardinals do not have: speed off the edge. Plus---imagine what Darnell Dockett would do to fire up his fellow Seminole to become a key member of the Birdgang!

 

[Mitch]

He only started 3 games for them in the 2 years he was there. Couldn't break into the starting line-up.

Not too many 6-1, 256 pound guys not named Dwight Freeney (who is 12 pounds heavier and has tree trunk thighs) can start at 43 DE in the NFL---tough at that size to stop the run.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

He's definitely worth a look and more of a 3-4 rush LB than 4-3 DE. Still, there's more to playing the 3-4 OLB than just rushing the passer and he may not have any of the other skills required.

 

[Dayman]

I wouldn't mind giving him a look. He has some flaws, but with Joey Porter as our best pass rushing OLB, I don't think we should be debating the details. The guy has pass rushing skills.

 

[BleedRed]

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I'll stick with Schofield and Acho till further notice.

 

[sportznutt]

Panthers waived DE Everette Brown.
Brown has put up decent numbers since being taken in the second round in 2009, tallying 47 tackles and 6.5 sacks in 28 games. He fell to fourth on the depth chart at defensive end during training camp, however. Although he's too under-sized (6-foot-1, 256 pounds) to be effective against the run, his pass-rushing ability should make it relatively easy for him to latch on elsewhere.

rotoworld

 

[Bodha]

Just another one of those good pickup, but we wont get him cuts.

Hes interesting and would make a good project, but we wont do it.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

$20 says Jets will take him, and he'll have at least 5 sacks for them

 

[Chopper0080]

I think that he would be worth a look just because pass rushers are so valuable. Besides, what is keeping us from signing him? The potential loss of Jim Dray? Alphonso Smith? Worth it in my opinion.

 

[joeshmo]

He was on the all rookie team I remember. Also, according to the metrics he had the most pressures on the QB of all rookies next to Matthews and 2.5 sacks the first year and 3.5 the next, all with many injuries in his second year.

That is actually good for a position that takes time to learn usually.

I don't think he is a fit for Carolina. He is not a good run defender, but as pass rusher, he is a great talent.

Cardinals should sign him.

Making an all rookie team in 2009 wasnt all that hard to make. Pretty slim pickens to choice from that year.

6 sacks in two years isnt much to write home about, and 4-3 DE doesnt take that long to learn compared to 3-4 OLB and it isnt even close. If he were a pass rush threat Rivera who is desperate to find one outside of Johnson wouldnt have let him go for two other non factor pass rushers in Selvie and Hardy. Not sure anyone can say he "is" a great pass rush talent when he has yet to show any pass rush in 2 seasons and one current horrible preseason where had grand total of 1 tackle, zero sacks, and 1 QB hurry.

I also got to see were you got those metrics for pressures, honestly dont know where to find it. Once again it didnt have all that much competition in 2009 for that title and I doubt he had more then Orakpo.

They guy has shown nothing in the NFL so far and looked horrid this preseason, the only reason to have hope for the guy is a switch to a brand new position that takes way more and longer to learn then the 4-3 dE.

 

[Chopper0080]

Making an all rookie team in 2009 wasnt all that hard to make. Pretty slim pickens to choice from that year.

6 sacks in two years isnt much to write home about, and 4-3 DE doesnt take that long to learn compared to 3-4 OLB and it isnt even close. If he were a pass rush threat Rivera who is desperate to find one outside of Johnson wouldnt have let him go for two other non factor pass rushers in Selvie and Hardy. Not sure anyone can say he "is" a great pass rush talent when he has yet to show any pass rush in 2 seasons and one current horrible preseason where had grand total of 1 tackle, zero sacks, and 1 QB hurry.

I also got to see were you got those metrics for pressures, honestly dont know where to find it. Once again it didnt have all that much competition in 2009 for that title and I doubt he had more then Orakpo.

They guy has shown nothing in the NFL so far and looked horrid this preseason, the only reason to have hope for the guy is a switch to a brand new position that takes way more and longer to learn then the 4-3 dE.

Worth it on the unlikely chance that he excels in a 3-4. Not likely, but low risk and high reward. IF we had a deeper roster, I may not feel this way, but we don't.

 

[Early]

Making an all rookie team in 2009 wasnt all that hard to make. Pretty slim pickens to choice from that year.

6 sacks in two years isnt much to write home about, and 4-3 DE doesnt take that long to learn compared to 3-4 OLB and it isnt even close. If he were a pass rush threat Rivera who is desperate to find one outside of Johnson wouldnt have let him go for two other non factor pass rushers in Selvie and Hardy. Not sure anyone can say he "is" a great pass rush talent when he has yet to show any pass rush in 2 seasons and one current horrible preseason where had grand total of 1 tackle, zero sacks, and 1 QB hurry.

I also got to see were you got those metrics for pressures, honestly dont know where to find it. Once again it didnt have all that much competition in 2009 for that title and I doubt he had more then Orakpo.

They guy has shown nothing in the NFL so far and looked horrid this preseason, the only reason to have hope for the guy is a switch to a brand new position that takes way more and longer to learn then the 4-3 dE.

It's a position that takes many years to exceed in, so that he has put up some good stats early on, is very promising. And looking away from stats, but focusing on games, I have seen most of them, he was around the QB always on passing downs making pressures, but was a big liability on running plays and that's what has kept him from starting. In his last 5 games recovering form the injury last year, he made 3.5 sacks. You can't ask for more than that. 6 sacks in two years with significant injury and time off the field, is much to write home about. Looking at his tapes, he is a great pass rushing talent, and is consistently making troubles for the tackles. I say he is instantly a much greater danger on the edge than Porter or Haggans.

I can't provide links for everything I post. So you can believe me or not. But the site is called profootballfocus and you have to pay and check for yourself - reason that I can't provide the complete link. I remember looking at the stat and it was obvious how many pressures he made compared to the snaps he got, only Orakpo and him could compare from that class. However, we all know that as 3-4 DE/OLB you get many encounters with the RB's and TE's (instead of tackles as 4-3 DE) and several unblocked situations at the QB, therefore many "free" sacks. 6 sacks as DE (in 43)is 10 as OLB in 34 IMHO. If he stays healthy and plays 3-4, he could put up Orakpo stats.

I haven't seen the preseason games, but I really don't put much into it, if he looked bad or not. He looked very good during regular season on passing downs, so he has shown the ability to rush the passer when it matters.

In my opinion he is one of the best young pass rushing talents in the NFL. Another player we should have signed is Nick Reed. Problem with him (Everette) on the tapes is how he handles the run. He needs to bulk up and learn the technique much better to be able to play on all three downs. Also what makes the case for that's possible is that he makes separation against tackles by moves and leverage and the spin move, rather than his speed. So he can put up some weight and keep his pass rushing ability.

 

[football karma]

File this one under "guy I have heard of at a position of need, so the Cards must get him".

 

[Mitch]

It's a position that takes many years to exceed in, so that he has put up some good stats early on, is very promising. And looking away from stats, but focusing on games, I have seen most of them, he was around the QB always on passing downs making pressures, but was a big liability on running plays and that's what has kept him from starting. In his last 5 games recovering form the injury last year, he made 3.5 sacks. You can't ask for more than that. 6 sacks in two years with significant injury and time off the field, is much to write home about. Looking at his tapes, he is a great pass rushing talent, and is consistently making troubles for the tackles. I say he is instantly a much greater danger on the edge than Porter or Haggans.

I can't provide links for everything I post. So you can believe me or not. But the site is called profootballfocus and you have to pay and check for yourself - reason that I can't provide the complete link. I remember looking at the stat and it was obvious how many pressures he made compared to the snaps he got, only Orakpo and him could compare from that class. However, we all know that as 3-4 DE/OLB you get many encounters with the RB's and TE's (instead of tackles as 4-3 DE) and several unblocked situations at the QB, therefore many "free" sacks. 6 sacks as DE (in 43)is 10 as OLB in 34 IMHO. If he stays healthy and plays 3-4, he could put up Orakpo stats.

I haven't seen the preseason games, but I really don't put much into it, if he looked bad or not. He looked very good during regular season on passing downs, so he has shown the ability to rush the passer when it matters.

In my opinion he is one of the best young pass rushing talents in the NFL. Another player we should have signed is Nick Reed. Problem with him (Everette) on the tapes is how he handles the run. He needs to bulk up and learn the technique much better to be able to play on all three downs. Also what makes the case for that's possible is that he makes separation against tackles by moves and leverage and the spin move, rather than his speed. So he can put up some weight and keep his pass rushing ability.

I agree, Early. Seems to me that the Cardinals were thinking very seriously about cutting Calvin Pace after two years. Pace is more of a SOLB, while Brown is a WOLB---but the point is just the one that Early is making, after two years, Brown's best football could well be ahead of him.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

It's a position that takes many years to exceed in, so that he has put up some good stats early on, is very promising. And looking away from stats, but focusing on games, I have seen most of them, he was around the QB always on passing downs making pressures, but was a big liability on running plays and that's what has kept him from starting. In his last 5 games recovering form the injury last year, he made 3.5 sacks. You can't ask for more than that. 6 sacks in two years with significant injury and time off the field, is much to write home about. Looking at his tapes, he is a great pass rushing talent, and is consistently making troubles for the tackles. I say he is instantly a much greater danger on the edge than Porter or Haggans.

I can't provide links for everything I post. So you can believe me or not. But the site is called profootballfocus and you have to pay and check for yourself - reason that I can't provide the complete link. I remember looking at the stat and it was obvious how many pressures he made compared to the snaps he got, only Orakpo and him could compare from that class. However, we all know that as 3-4 DE/OLB you get many encounters with the RB's and TE's (instead of tackles as 4-3 DE) and several unblocked situations at the QB, therefore many "free" sacks. 6 sacks as DE (in 43)is 10 as OLB in 34 IMHO. If he stays healthy and plays 3-4, he could put up Orakpo stats.

I haven't seen the preseason games, but I really don't put much into it, if he looked bad or not. He looked very good during regular season on passing downs, so he has shown the ability to rush the passer when it matters.

In my opinion he is one of the best young pass rushing talents in the NFL. Another player we should have signed is Nick Reed. Problem with him (Everette) on the tapes is how he handles the run. He needs to bulk up and learn the technique much better to be able to play on all three downs. Also what makes the case for that's possible is that he makes separation against tackles by moves and leverage and the spin move, rather than his speed. So he can put up some weight and keep his pass rushing ability.

And if he was viewed as such by people who make decisions he wouldn't be out of a job. At a minimum, he could have been traded for a late round pick.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

And if he was viewed as such by people who make decisions he wouldn't be out of a job. At a minimum, he could have been traded for a late round pick.

He was put in an inauspicious position, not his fault. A 3-4 team will pick him up, and he'll be productive as a 2-point stance OLB, which should be his natural position. Cards are anemic to picking up young OLB's with pass rushing potential, if he was 35 years old and 10 years past his prime, the cards would be all over him.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

He was put in an inauspicious position, not his fault. A 3-4 team will pick him up, and he'll be productive as a 2-point stance OLB, which should be his natural position. Cards are anemic to picking up young OLB's with pass rushing potential, if he was 35 years old and 10 years past his prime, the cards would be all over him.

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit and humour...

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit and humour...

Ohh I beg to differ! It's near the top for sure lol