Peter King's 1 minute drill

[DutchmanAZ]

Nothing really new...but UGH.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...04/nfl-one-minute-drills/index.html#cnnWebtag

 

[Shane]

What a *****! Ryan Lindley of Arizona State! What an f'n moron!

 

[Phrazbit]

Lindley apparently transferred to Arizona St before the draft... if you dont know the details its probably best to avoid them Peter.

 

[jbeecham]

Nothing really new... except he thinks Lindley came from AZ State... he's from San Diego St.

 

[CaptainCobre]

Other than the San Diego State/Arizona State confusion. . .

Does anybody disagree with his assessment that one of the Cardinal's qbs will have to step it up for the team to make the playoffs?

 

[AzStevenCal]

Okay, so he screwed up on Lindley. I don't really have a problem with that. After a lifetime of hearing about the Arizona State Wildcats and the University of Arizona Sun Devils, I'm pretty much used to the national guys getting something wrong when they talk about my team. What bugs me is that he didn't bother to do any work on us. He offered nothing substantial and let's face it, anyone that says our biggest concern is quarterback clearly hasn't been paying attention. Until it's fixed, our biggest problem is the offensive line and until it is stabilized, we really won't know whether our QB problem has an in-house solution.

Steve

 

[AzStevenCal]

Does anybody disagree with his assessment that one of the Cardinal's qbs will have to step it up for the team to make the playoffs?

Yes, I disagree with that assessment. I don't think John Elway in his prime could lead this team to the playoffs if they don't solve the protection problems and if they do solve them, Skelton is quite capable of winning games for us.

Steve

 

[seesred]

Most of these people need to get a report in so they just ad lib. I try not to read any of this little excerpts. Our team will compete. This I know, how many they win or lose we will have to see.

GBR
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[Chopper0080]

Yes, I disagree with that assessment. I don't think John Elway in his prime could lead this team to the playoffs if they don't solve the protection problems and if they do solve them, Skelton is quite capable of winning games for us.

Steve

False. You put any top QB on this team and we are a Super Bowl contender. Running game, receiving threats, and solid defense + a top QB equals contender. Too bad we are missing the QB (or so we think).

 

[kerouac9]

Okay, so he screwed up on Lindley. I don't really have a problem with that. After a lifetime of hearing about the Arizona State Wildcats and the University of Arizona Sun Devils, I'm pretty much used to the national guys getting something wrong when they talk about my team. What bugs me is that he didn't bother to do any work on us. He offered nothing substantial and let's face it, anyone that says our biggest concern is quarterback clearly hasn't been paying attention. Until it's fixed, our biggest problem is the offensive line and until it is stabilized, we really won't know whether our QB problem has an in-house solution.

Steve

I don't know. I haven't seen THIS offensive line in run-blocking enough to make that determination. Run blocking is much more of an offense-dictated numbers game than pass blocking (which is much more about technique).

But Chopper's been saying this over and over, and it's true: offensive lines are only as good in pass pro as the quarterback playing behind them. Across the NFL, great quarterbacks make their offensive lines look above average. We'll have a bad offensive line BECAUSE OUR QUARTERBACKS ARE BAD. Not the other way around.

Now, if we can't run the ball with either Beanie or Ryan Williams, that's probably an OL talent problem. But Russ Grimm was considered one of the best OL coaches in the NFL because he had adequate quarterbacks behind his lines in Pittsburgh.

 

[Duckjake]

We'll have a bad offensive line BECAUSE OUR QUARTERBACKS ARE BAD. Not the other way around.

I might agree with you if we didn't have Batiste, Snyder, and Massie starting. A journeyman who hasn't started a game since 2007, a guy many are calling the worst starting offensive lineman in the NFL last season and a rookie who is said to have motivation issues, all new to the line. I think Drew Aaron Brady would have a hard time making them look good.

 

[Jetstream Green]

That Drew Aaron Brady is DYNAMITE man!

 

[Duckjake]

That Drew Aaron Brady is DYNAMITE man!

Almost as good as that guy we had at UT Vincent James McCoy.

 

[AzStevenCal]

False. You put any top QB on this team and we are a Super Bowl contender. Running game, receiving threats, and solid defense + a top QB equals contender. Too bad we are missing the QB (or so we think).

Running game when healthy, receiving threat, solid defense with an average at best secondary (in a passing league) + a top QB that is left unprotected is still a bad team.

Steve

 

[Nash2Amare]

Reminds me of this: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/10/08/kurt.warner/index.html?eref=sihp

Peter King loves 3rd string QBs

 

[AzStevenCal]

I don't know. I haven't seen THIS offensive line in run-blocking enough to make that determination. Run blocking is much more of an offense-dictated numbers game than pass blocking (which is much more about technique).

But Chopper's been saying this over and over, and it's true: offensive lines are only as good in pass pro as the quarterback playing behind them. Across the NFL, great quarterbacks make their offensive lines look above average. We'll have a bad offensive line BECAUSE OUR QUARTERBACKS ARE BAD. Not the other way around.

Now, if we can't run the ball with either Beanie or Ryan Williams, that's probably an OL talent problem. But Russ Grimm was considered one of the best OL coaches in the NFL because he had adequate quarterbacks behind his lines in Pittsburgh.

I agree with this to a point. I think a great QB can take an average line (maybe even a below average line) to the Super Bowl. I don't think a great QB can take a horrible line anywhere and I believe we have a horrible line. I think it's much worse than last year. We're weak in the interior and even weaker at the tackles. The only good thing about our line is that our QB won't need any special skills to know when the rush is about to reach him, all he has to do is count to 2 and die.

Steve

 

[JeffGollin]

False. You put any top QB on this team and we are a Super Bowl contender. Running game, receiving threats, and solid defense + a top QB equals contender. Too bad we are missing the QB (or so we think).

Of course, it would all go right down the tubes if our "top QB" got permanently maimed because our OL failed to protect him.

I'm not claiming that what stands between us and the Super Bowl is either mediocre QBing or inept OL play - I suspect it would not be a question of one or the other; it's probably both.

 

[kerouac9]

I agree with this to a point. I think a great QB can take an average line (maybe even a below average line) to the Super Bowl. I don't think a great QB can take a horrible line anywhere and I believe we have a horrible line. I think it's much worse than last year. We're weak in the interior and even weaker at the tackles. The only good thing about our line is that our QB won't need any special skills to know when the rush is about to reach him, all he has to do is count to 2 and die.

Steve

I disagree, and I'll offer evidence to support it: Jay Cutler and Philip Rivers. Both of them are (at worst) above-average QBs. Cutler moved to a much worse OL situation in Chicago, and in the last two years in San Diego, the offensive line has seen steep decline.

What happened? Both QBs remained incredibly productive when it came to completion percentage, TDs, and YPA. The issue became INTs. Because the QB has to deliver the ball more quickly, he has to take risks and hope that his target gets open by the time the ball arrives.

The same thing happened with Peyton Manning from 2007 through 2010. When his OL began to decline because of age and free agency, his INTs jumped from 10 a year to 14+.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I disagree, and I'll offer evidence to support it: Jay Cutler and Philip Rivers. Both of them are (at worst) above-average QBs. Cutler moved to a much worse OL situation in Chicago, and in the last two years in San Diego, the offensive line has seen steep decline.

What happened? Both QBs remained incredibly productive when it came to completion percentage, TDs, and YPA. The issue became INTs. Because the QB has to deliver the ball more quickly, he has to take risks and hope that his target gets open by the time the ball arrives.

The same thing happened with Peyton Manning from 2007 through 2010. When his OL began to decline because of age and free agency, his INTs jumped from 10 a year to 14+.

Good points. However, our disagreement lies in the definition of a horrible line. I don't think any of those three played with horrible lines and even though you offered two good QBs and one great QB, they have a total of one Super Bowl win amongst them and that was with a pretty good Oline at the time. I think Cutler is the only one that has played behind a line that was as weak as our line from last year. This year, if we had the line from last year, I'd be picking us to go 10 - 6 instead of 2 - 14.

Steve