Phoenix has cap trouble in regards to Q!

[Yuma]

The Suns could also run into trouble with the cap. They agreed to terms with two free agents, Steve Nash and Quentin Richardson, over the past two weeks. However, given their cap situation now, the team will only be able to offer Richardson a contract for a little more than the mid-level exception. If the Clippers don't land Kobe, it probably make Q's contract (he's a restricted free agent) much more matchable for the Clips.

Looks like we MAY have cap space to go after a center after the Clippers match to retain Q. At our salary, Q is a bargain for the Clippers.

 

[slinslin]

No they don't.

Q has already signed the offer sheet and apparently Nash even gave up a little of his contract money to make up for the lower cap.

 

[Gaddabout]

No they don't.

Q has already signed the offer sheet and apparently Nash even gave up a little of his contract money to make up for the lower cap.

This is just semantics, but I doubt Nash "gave up" money. Shifted money to the back end, more likely. It's a bean counter game.

 

[slinslin]

This is just semantics, but I doubt Nash "gave up" money. Shifted money to the back end, more likely. It's a bean counter game.

You can't just shift money back. The Suns can only give him a raise of 10% each year and that was almost definately the case in the original contract.

 

[Yuma]

You are still ignoring the fact that Q is a bargain at the rate we are giving him, which makes the Clippers more likely to resign him!

 

[Chris_Sanders]

This is just semantics, but I doubt Nash "gave up" money. Shifted money to the back end, more likely. It's a bean counter game.

Actually it was in today's Mesa Tribune that Nash did indeed give up money on his contract to help sign Q since the cap was smaller than intended.

Go Steve Nash!

 

[Chris_Sanders]

You are still ignoring the fact that Q is a bargain at the rate we are giving him, which makes the Clippers more likely to resign him!

No, Q will still be at his first agreed upon contract. Nash redid his offer to accomodate him on the team.

 

[nathan]

Did Nash get a larger % of the 6th year guaranteed or did he just agree to a reduction?

 

[NJYAJ09]

I think Richardson sort of burned bridges between him and the clippers, clips dont want him back now.

 

[George O'Brien]

I think Richardson sort of burned bridges between him and the clippers, clips dont want him back now.

Teams go through this routine every year. An RFA signs with someone else and all kinds of silly things get said. They guy goes back and all is forgiven.

Realitisically, the only reason he doesn't go back if Kobe stays with the Lakers is because the Clippers are cheap. It will have nothing to do with what Q says.

 

[elindholm]

Realitisically, the only reason he doesn't go back if Kobe stays with the Lakers is because the Clippers are cheap.

Or if they think they can do something better with the money, which I agree looks unlikely right now.

 

[slinslin]

Teams go through this routine every year. An RFA signs with someone else and all kinds of silly things get said. They guy goes back and all is forgiven.

Realitisically, the only reason he doesn't go back if Kobe stays with the Lakers is because the Clippers are cheap. It will have nothing to do with what Q says.

Pretty funny comment considering there have been only a few RFA so far that signed an offer sheet that the other team matched.

Mark Jackson (worked out horrible for the Warriors)
Elton Brand (told them not to match, but well Brand is a different case than Richardson)
Corey Magette (never made negative comments about the Clippers and imo wanted them to match)

 

[Gaddabout]

You can't just shift money back. The Suns can only give him a raise of 10% each year and that was almost definately the case in the original contract.

Quote from azcentral.com:

Before a news conference with Nash, the Suns signed shooting guard Quentin Richardson, a restricted free agent after four years with the Los Angeles Clippers, to an offer sheet. The Clippers have 15 days to match Phoenix's $45 million, six-year offer.

"Nash will still average $13 million, but accepted less up front after the Suns ran into problems with the $43.87 million salary cap - about $2 million below their projection.

"They were trying to accommodate Quentin," said Bill Duffy, Nash's agent. "We had to be a little flexible ... But we knew what the club's objective was, and we worked together to maintain the integrity of the deal, so it worked out very well.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is that not backloading a contract -- moving money from the front to the back -- rather than subtraction?

And until today, no contract legally existed. It was just a verbal agreement existing in a vacuum until the NBA lifted the veil of secrecy. As far as I know, they two parties could agree to change anything they want up until Steve Nash signed it.

 

[elindholm]

I wonder if the Suns' original offer to Nash didn't have the 10% raises -- i.e. it was "flatter." That could explain it.

 

[Joe Mama]

I wonder if the Suns' original offer to Nash didn't have the 10% raises -- i.e. it was "flatter." That could explain it.

They could be that they just guaranteed more in that partially guaranteed final year. I mean one would have to assume that there's no way Phoenix Suns would plan on picking up the option on that year when it's going to be for over $15 million

Joe Mama

 

[elindholm]

They could be that they just guaranteed more in that partially guaranteed final year.

That seems to be contradicted by Duffy's statement: "Nash will still average $13 million, but accepted less up front..."