Players on Coming Labor Strife

[WildBB]

Here's an article in PFW in which the union reps of the Colts and Saints speak up about the upcoming CBA which is set to expire on March 5, this year.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/02/04/labor-strife-weighing-on-super-bowl-players

 

[ajcardfan]

Here's an article in PFW in which the union reps of the Colts and Saints speak up about the upcoming CBA which is set to expire on March 5, this year.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/02/04/labor-strife-weighing-on-super-bowl-players

The fact that the NFL has hired the guy who handled the lockout for the NHL shows the league has zero intention of striking a deal unless the players cave big time.

 

[Catfish]

I don't have any faith at all that this bunch of 32 owners can agree on ANYTHING AT ALL, much less something as complicated as revenue sharing. Unless I miss my guess, the ones with the biggest debts, (Jerry Jones with his billion dollar stadium), will want the most of the revenues. The little owners will be screaming that they want equal parts of the pie too. We could be facing a lockout simply because the owners cannot get together on exactly what it is that they really want. I don't think Goodell is strong enough to pull this bunch of owners together to agree on anything. Can you imagine personalities like Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder agreeing to work with the owners of the Jaguars. and the Bills. Now throw in Al Davis and see what happens, (and that is just 5 of the 32). Good luck on this one !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[lobo]

I don't have any faith at all that this bunch of 32 owners can agree on ANYTHING AT ALL, much less something as complicated as revenue sharing.

Lot of agreement from me on this one. It will go down to the wire as most labor issues do...head of players union is Obama cronie..not that it means anything...if one side wants to be unreasonable and dig their heels in so be it...and let em walk. As it will turn out the rich (players) will get richer and many guys who would have had jobs will be cut and replaced by lower end salaries. As far as the owners go, as a group, they have been the best owners in terms of managers in pro sports, but now as you mentioned with big downstrokes like Jones etc on the line, lot may change and some teams like J'ville will either move or be sold.

 

[Duckjake]

Wow! After all these years I find out that Stout is actually Jeff Saturday.

No wonder the only game he ever came to in Arizona was during the Colts bye week to root against the Patriots. Now I know why the NE coach was so mad after seeing him on the field pre-game.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I hope Jeff Saturday is right and these millionaires are able to pay their mortgages and car payments if there is a lockout. I would hate for them to have to see the reality of the world. I'm not saying the owners or players are right, i just don't like it when either side tries to paint a sorrowful picture.

 

[Red Dawn]

It's ironic that the league and players association are preparing for a labor disagreement involving so much money when the rest of the country is facing double digit unemployment and bleak prospects for economic improvement.

A strike or a lockout is not gonna sit well with me.

 

[Stout]

Wow! After all these years I find out that Stout is actually Jeff Saturday.

No wonder the only game he ever came to in Arizona was during the Colts bye week to root against the Patriots. Now I know why the NE coach was so mad after seeing him on the field pre-game.

Hahaha! Hey, if I were Jeff Saturday, I wouldn't be so damned broke all the time!

And it was Cory Dillon I mouthed off to, not Bellicheat

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Union leader: Lockout next season is very likely

Updated.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Eff em all if they lockout... I have yet to watch a hockey game since their lockout...

 

[Tyler]

As much as it pains me to say it, if the NFL does have a lockout, all my money will be spent on ASU athletics. I will stop buying gear, tickets, and anything else NFL related. I will donate all my gear to goodwill, paint my Cardinals keg grill maroon and gold. I hope they can figure this out and soon.

 

[MrYeahBut]

Strike or no strike, I'm a Card fan til I die. Sad, but true

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

there's too much money for a deal to not get done. It seems like everyone is making money but the owners seem to be wanting to put the squeeze on the players. It looks like the owners have all the power in these negotiations.

The question i have, is, say come late Feb., can they agree to play next year under the existing rules or does it have to be uncapped if no new deal is made?

 

[WildBB]

there's too much money for a deal to not get done. It seems like everyone is making money but the owners seem to be wanting to put the squeeze on the players. It looks like the owners have all the power in these negotiations.

The question i have, is, say come late Feb., can they agree to play next year under the existing rules or does it have to be uncapped if no new deal is made?

From what was said in the article, an uncapped year next season is immenent.

 

[40yearfan]

I seriously question the statement that the owners will get $5 billion from their TV rights even if no NFL games are played. I cannot see the major networks agreeing to a deal like that unless that $5 billion is a holdover from monies they should have earned in 2010.

The best thing that could happen to the league is to standarize rookie salaries according to draft position for a period of 2 to 3 years and keep those salaries reasonable. At the end of the period they become FA's, but their team has the right to match any offer they might receive.

Existing contracts can be re-nogitiated at any time, but all must be 4 year contracts (after the rookie contract). Once again, at the end of the contract, the player becomes a FA, but the owner has the right to match any offer. The dollar amounts/bonus etc. are between the player and team and are not regulated. Once you get these contracts to where there is only money involved, negotiations should go quickly.

There will be no franchise or transition tags. If you want the player, make the deal.

Keep the salary cap structure as it is.

Meet somewhere in the middle from what the owners are offering and the players are asking for in regards to a percentage of profit for the payroll.

 

[Perfectionist]

Meet somewhere in the middle from what the owners are offering and the players are asking for in regards to a percentage of profit for the payroll.

Man, that is way to logical.

 

[lobo]

there's too much money for a deal to not get done. It seems like everyone is making money but the owners seem to be wanting to put the squeeze on the players. It looks like the owners have all the power in these negotiations.

The question i have, is, say come late Feb., can they agree to play next year under the existing rules or does it have to be uncapped if no new deal is made?

gotta' be that way unless, and this is unlikely new deal is cut within the next few weeks and it is agreed upon...i believe the owners are not lemmings and will not follow an owner over the cliff and overpay dramatically for too many players....after haynsworth was signed last year not too much money was handed out. some owners are actually looking forward to them uncapped year

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

Eff em all if they lockout... I have yet to watch a hockey game since their lockout...

I gave MLB the middle finger after their last strike.

 

[john h]

I don't have any faith at all that this bunch of 32 owners can agree on ANYTHING AT ALL, much less something as complicated as revenue sharing. Unless I miss my guess, the ones with the biggest debts, (Jerry Jones with his billion dollar stadium), will want the most of the revenues. The little owners will be screaming that they want equal parts of the pie too. We could be facing a lockout simply because the owners cannot get together on exactly what it is that they really want. I don't think Goodell is strong enough to pull this bunch of owners together to agree on anything. Can you imagine personalities like Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder agreeing to work with the owners of the Jaguars. and the Bills. Now throw in Al Davis and see what happens, (and that is just 5 of the 32). Good luck on this one !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I suggest both sides accept Nancy Polosi and Harry Reid as sole arbitrators and let them draw up a plan that both sides must accept. How could you do better than that?

 

[john h]

I seriously question the statement that the owners will get $5 billion from their TV rights even if no NFL games are played. I cannot see the major networks agreeing to a deal like that unless that $5 billion is a holdover from monies they should have earned in 2010.

The best thing that could happen to the league is to standarize rookie salaries according to draft position for a period of 2 to 3 years and keep those salaries reasonable. At the end of the period they become FA's, but their team has the right to match any offer they might receive.

Existing contracts can be re-nogitiated at any time, but all must be 4 year contracts (after the rookie contract). Once again, at the end of the contract, the player becomes a FA, but the owner has the right to match any offer. The dollar amounts/bonus etc. are between the player and team and are not regulated. Once you get these contracts to where there is only money involved, negotiations should go quickly.

There will be no franchise or transition tags. If you want the player, make the deal.

Keep the salary cap structure as it is.

Meet somewhere in the middle from what the owners are offering and the players are asking for in regards to a percentage of profit for the payroll.

What I would like to see is that all owners be required to spend all the CAP money assigned to them. That way no greedy owner can cause his team to continually become an also ran. If Jerry Jones spends all his cap money every year and some other owner holds back 10-20 million every year over a period of time it is clear what the result will be. I still look back at the championship Marlin baseball team that the owner totally dismantled in just one year. I know that cannot be done if the NFL but you can come close to it as many fans have found out. Our Cards were ran in a manner that would never produce a winner for half a century. The fans suffered for it and the owner actually suffered for it also although he still owns a franchise worth nearly a billion dollars that he paid $50,000 for. Talk about some capital gains?

 

[ARZCardinals]

Both parties are wrong.

The NFL is GREAT the way it is....keep everything going as it is....when it's not broke...don't try to fix it.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

The best thing that could happen to the league is to standarize rookie salaries according to draft position for a period of 2 to 3 years and keep those salaries reasonable. At the end of the period they become FA's, but their team has the right to match any offer they might receive.

Big issue for fans, but largely irrelevant in the grand scheme of negotiations between the two parties. Although, I'd prefer that there were entry level guaranteed contracts as they have in the NHL.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

If there is no football to be watched between September and February at anytime in my lifetime (except of things out of the control of everyone, nuclear war, meteor strike) I will stop watching the NFL, period.

Absolutely ridiculous. A bunch of millionaires fighting over who gets more millions of dollars.

I will not stand for it, and I will stop paying out ridiculous amounts of money to watch said sport.

This is an absolute sickening topic. I have enjoyed the last two years of football for all it has been worth knowing that it just might stab me in the back soon.

Get out the back knives.