Positive Note on Derek Anderson

[kerouac9]

There are a lot of people--including yours truly--who are jumping all over Anderson for his performance yesterday, and deservedly so.

But I wanted to say that one thing that I noted was much better under Derek Anderson than what we'd seen under Kurt Warner was the pace of the offense. Plays were getting into the huddle and the team was getting to the line in plenty of time. We didn't have to burn timeouts needlessly in the first or third quarter. I don't think there was a single delay-of-game penalty.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

There are a lot of people--including yours truly--who are jumping all over Anderson for his performance yesterday, and deservedly so.

But I wanted to say that one thing that I noted was much better under Derek Anderson than what we'd seen under Kurt Warner was the pace of the offense. Plays were getting into the huddle and the team was getting to the line in plenty of time. We didn't have to burn timeouts needlessly in the first or third quarter. I don't think there was a single delay-of-game penalty.

The coach had to come in and call timeout because there was going to be a definite delay called.

 

[Capital Card]

I haven't read all of the threads yet (internet svc is out at my home until tuesday), but Anderson can take a beating.

I was beginning to wonder if Max Hall was going to have to finish the game for us.

Rookie vs Rookie, kinda seemed destined to happen.

Glad for the win though.

Go Cards!!!

 

[Pariah]

Rookie vs Rookie, kinda seemed destined to happen.

I hadn't thought of it before this, but it would have made a great story if Hall came in and lit it up. Two rookies with 180 degree differences in how they came into the league.

 

[Catfish]

There are a lot of people--including yours truly--who are jumping all over Anderson for his performance yesterday, and deservedly so.

But I wanted to say that one thing that I noted was much better under Derek Anderson than what we'd seen under Kurt Warner was the pace of the offense. Plays were getting into the huddle and the team was getting to the line in plenty of time. We didn't have to burn timeouts needlessly in the first or third quarter. I don't think there was a single delay-of-game penalty.

When you break down Anderson's performance yesterday, there is much more to be positive about than there is to complain about. I don't believe Whiz is going to see nearly as much negative in Anderson's performance yesterday than most of us did-----including me immediately after the game. I feel much different today after re-watching the game, and breaking down his passing attempts. Best of all-----Anderson showed us all a lot of moxie by continuing on through the beating he was taking, instead of laying down and giving up. He threw a game winner to FItz late in the game that was a thing of beauty, (after the timing broke down, and he had to scramble to get the ball to Fitz). I like his pluckiness and the toughness he displayed ALL THROUGH THE GAME. He is not going to be just a fair weather quarterback. Wait and see.

 

[dogpoo32]

When you break down Anderson's performance yesterday, there is much more to be positive about than there is to complain about. I don't believe Whiz is going to see nearly as much negative in Anderson's performance yesterday than most of us did-----including me immediately after the game. I feel much different today after re-watching the game, and breaking down his passing attempts. Best of all-----Anderson showed us all a lot of moxie by continuing on through the beating he was taking, instead of laying down and giving up. He threw a game winner to FItz late in the game that was a thing of beauty, (after the timing broke down, and he had to scramble to get the ball to Fitz). I like his pluckiness and the toughness he displayed ALL THROUGH THE GAME. He is not going to be just a fair weather quarterback. Wait and see.

He will not get away with that type of performance against any other defense in the league. If he was able to complete 60%-65% of his passes, the Rams would not have been in the game. He missed some great opportunities. I agree, he showed a lot of poise under the constant pressure Keith was allowing, but that does not excuse his poor accuracy.

 

[football karma]

The coach had to come in and call timeout because there was going to be a definite delay called.

wasnt that after Anderson took a shot and wasn't 100%?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

wasnt that after Anderson took a shot and wasn't 100%?

Quite possibly. He took quite a few yesterday.

 

[joko4]

I was at the game and the play your talking about, Anderson was definitly hurting, Max Hall was warming up on the sidelines. Coach Wiz absolutly made the right call in calling time out.

 

[john h]

When you break down Anderson's performance yesterday, there is much more to be positive about than there is to complain about. I don't believe Whiz is going to see nearly as much negative in Anderson's performance yesterday than most of us did-----including me immediately after the game. I feel much different today after re-watching the game, and breaking down his passing attempts. Best of all-----Anderson showed us all a lot of moxie by continuing on through the beating he was taking, instead of laying down and giving up. He threw a game winner to FItz late in the game that was a thing of beauty, (after the timing broke down, and he had to scramble to get the ball to Fitz). I like his pluckiness and the toughness he displayed ALL THROUGH THE GAME. He is not going to be just a fair weather quarterback. Wait and see.

Anderson and Fitz were just not in sync yesterday and yet Anderson was lighting it up with his other receivers. Rather than give up on Fitz he kept on going to him until it finally played off big time. More important was that Fitz left the game with somewhat of a good feeling having caught the winning pass. Fitz was not the Fitz we are familiar with. As the announcers noted he said he was at 70%. Anderson will stand in there to get the ball off. One tough QB.

After winning the game I am surprised to see all the ripping of Anderson as we did win the game. Some on the board thought we would lose. Like it or not Anderson was a large part of our winning the game. Our defense surprised me. Our DB's and in particular Wilson were tough. They hardly threw at Rogers-Cromartie. I thought the call on the fumble of Hightower was a bad call. I played that over and over and still think the ground caused the fumble.

 

[lobo]

When you break down Anderson's performance yesterday, there is much more to be positive about than there is to complain about.

I'm under your tent on this as well. I daresay most of the posters have never seen or heard of Joe Kapp. If he was around Glendale they would run him out of town on the first stagecoach...but some of us wily old vet's remember him well and we "just might" if we are lucky just see a reincarnation....all he did was win and he was a pretty tough dude!!

 

[john h]

I'm under your tent on this as well. I daresay most of the posters have never seen or heard of Joe Kapp. If he was around Glendale they would run him out of town on the first stagecoach...but some of us wily old vet's remember him well and we "just might" if we are lucky just see a reincarnation....all he did was win and he was a pretty tough dude!!

I had forgotten Joe Capp. He was one tough special sort of QB. He seemed to do everything wrong as a QB except win. What ever happened to him?

 

[BW52]

I'm under your tent on this as well. I daresay most of the posters have never seen or heard of Joe Kapp. If he was around Glendale they would run him out of town on the first stagecoach...but some of us wily old vet's remember him well and we "just might" if we are lucky just see a reincarnation....all he did was win and he was a pretty tough dude!!

Till Kapp laid a big stinky turd in the Super Bowl against the damn KC Chiefs .Then he held out next season.He ended up playing poorly for a poor Patriots team in 1970 or 1971.Yeah i remember him.

 

[earthsci]

I had forgotten Joe Capp. He was one tough special sort of QB. He seemed to do everything wrong as a QB except win. What ever happened to him?

Prior to the 1969 season, the Minnesota Vikings had exercised the option clause of his contract, so Kapp had played the entire season without a new contract. It was unusual and unprecedented for teams to use the team’s option and not to offer a new contract prior to a season. This dispute made him a free agent for the 1970 season, by the NFL's own rules.

Despite being a Super Bowl quarterback, no teams in the NFL made contact with Kapp until September of the 1970 season, when the Boston Patriots signed him to a four-year contract, making him the highest paid player in the league. Pete Rozelle stepped in and forced the Boston Patriots to give up two number one draft picks as compensation to the Minnesota Vikings.

The Boston Patriots of 1970 were a poor-performing team and the late-arriving Kapp played poorly himself that season, leading the team to the league's worst record at 2-12. When the year ended Pete Rozelle demanded that Kapp sign a Standard Player Contract. After conferring with his lawyer and the NFL Players Association, Kapp refused to sign a new contract.

With the top pick in the 1971 NFL Draft, the Patriots selected a quarterback, Jim Plunkett of Stanford. Kapp reported to the newly-renamed New England Patriots' training camp in 1971 and was turned away. The headlines in the Boston papers read “KAPP QUITS!”. After this incident Kapp never played again, his 12 year career as a professional football player was over.

Kapp started an anti-trust lawsuit vs. the NFL claiming the standard NFL contract was unconstitutional and a restraint of trade. He won the Summary Judgment after four years. The court had ruled that Joe Kapp’s trade was indeed restrained. It was two years later (April 1, 1976) in the trial for damages, that the jury decided that Kapp was not damaged.

Although Kapp was not awarded any damages, in 1977 the rules at issue in the Kapp case were later revised, a new system was instituted, and a multi-million dollar settlement was made between the NFL and the NFL Players Association....more

 

[TheHopToad]

The only positive about Anderson is that if if you didn't watch the game, his stats didn't look too bad when compared to Bradford, and Bradford is being praised for a solid debut.

Bradford: 32/55, 253 yds, 1 TD, 3 INT, 53.0 QB rating, Loss
DA: 22/41, 297 yds, 1 TD, 0 INT, 85.1 QB rating, Win

This shows why stats can often be misleading. We would all take Bradford over DA in a heartbeat, but statistically, DA had the better day yesterday.

 

[football karma]

Like many QBs, when he has time, I thought DA made good decisions. He was completing at a decent rate. The reality we all need to face is that Warner with time = 85% completion rate. Anderson with time= 70%.

The first quarter, the offense was in rhythm, protection was good and DA was 10/15.

The late 2nd/and 3rd quarter was full of bad down and distances due to holding penalties, and protection was shaky. DA goes 6/20.

Q4 and protection improves -- DA goes 5/6

 

[Cheesebeef]

positives: Dude's tough as nails, led a game winning TD drive in the 4th.

Negatives: Everything else. Man that 2nd/3rd quarter was probably the worst quarterbacking I've ever seen in my life.

 

[Big D]

Anderson's first game reminded me a lot of watching McCown. A lot of badly missed throws, hot and cold streaks, terrible fumble, kept pulling himself up after taking big hits, ect.

Anderson is better in a few areas. He doesn't just take off running at the first sign of pressure. He seems to be able to read a defense a bit better, and he has deep throws in his aresnal other than just jump balls. Might not have the athleticism of McCown but that can be an over-rated trait for the QB position.

So basically I guess what I'm saying is he is a slightly upgraded version of McCown.

That's not really a compliment.

 

[MrYeahBut]

What I noticed was, Warner and Fitz had this play that was really almost indefensable where Fitz would drive the corner straight upfield then turn towards the side line for the ball thrown to the outside.

I saw them try to run it a couple of times, but DA threw the ball to the inside. Fitz was like..wtf??. Maybe they can get that worked out

 

[Rasputin]

Anderson's first game reminded me a lot of watching McCown. A lot of badly missed throws, hot and cold streaks, terrible fumble, kept pulling himself up after taking big hits, ect.

Anderson is better in a few areas. He doesn't just take off running at the first sign of pressure. He seems to be able to read a defense a bit better, and he has deep throws in his aresnal other than just jump balls. Might not have the athleticism of McCown but that can be an over-rated trait for the QB position.

So basically I guess what I'm saying is he is a slightly upgraded version of McCown.

That's not really a compliment.

That's funny. I was thinking his pass protection and run support reminded me of McCown's.

 

[crisper57]

DA took alot of shots yesterday, but he kept grinding. He seemed to be relatively in sync with every receiver except Fitz, who sat out the preseason. That gives me hope that as they get more time together, the chemistry will improve. It was clear that at least a couple of times, Fitz wasn't where DA expected him to be when he was under fire. After they play together for a while, that unspoken relationship will strengthen and DA will have a better feel of where his receivers will be when he starts to scramble.

That being said, he has to work on his accuracy. For me, DA's game yesterday could be broken down into three distinct segments:

(1st Quarter) "Leinart Phase": He completed alot of passes, but nothing came of it.

(Quarters 2-3) "Alex Smith Phase": He flat-out sucked and I questioned whether he should even have a job in this league. The running game saved his butt.

(4th Quarter) "Favre Phase": After taking shots all day, he finally started slinging the ball around the field and made something happen.

Such is life with DA.

 

[chickenhead]

This was the first time he's faced an NFL defense with the Cardinals a) not against preseason play-calling, and b) for more than a couple series. I'm as concerned as anyone, but I would like to qualify *some* of his inconsistency with that. If we see exactly the same inconsistency a few weeks from now, it will speak loudly.

 

[crisper57]

This was the first time he's faced an NFL defense with the Cardinals a) not against preseason play-calling, and b) for more than a couple series. I'm as concerned as anyone, but I would like to qualify *some* of his inconsistency with that. If we see exactly the same inconsistency a few weeks from now, it will speak loudly.

+1

 

[nashman]

Positive is Steve Breaston saved his stupid TO from being a TD! And we were playing the rams so some of the balls that should have been intercepted weren't! God its going to be scary playing a real defense hopefully this clown can clean it up and actually hit the recievers and not the ground or other teams hands!

 

[john h]

I hadn't thought of it before this, but it would have made a great story if Hall came in and lit it up. Two rookies with 180 degree differences in how they came into the league.

I saw Hall really light it up in the pre-season games. He looked like the real deal. That being said, it is way to early to proclaim him as the anointed one. He has never played a game in the NFL. I think he will spend most of the season on the sidelines unless DA falls apart, which could happen. DA has a lot of experience under his helmet which counts for a lot as a QB in he NFL. The #1 overall pick in the draft had his problems against us so you can be sure when Hall does make his way to the field he will also have a period of adjustment. He has one thing that neither Anderson or Kurt has and that is good mobility and the ability to throw accurately on the run. Can he take a beating like Anderson. I doubt it as Anderson is 6'5" and 235 lbs of muscle. Hall's mobility, hopefully, will keep him from having to take all those hits. In the meantime Anderson is our QB. It may have been ugly but he won and we won on his arm and with Breaston making catches and runs and saving a TD. Add to that a great defensive effort. Next week we will learn a little more about this team and our QB. Way to early to proclaim anyone a bust. We all should celebrate a road victory against a division opponent. Many of the so called experts picked the Rams to take it to us. It appears we are like a dog bitting his own tail. We are looking at all the bad rather than celebrating a victory.