Punked

[THESMEL]

“I sense from our fans a little bit of discomfort because we don’t have the same guys we have had in there, and I understand that,” Whisenhunt said. “But I feel very good about the players we have on this team and knowing we will have the right combination when we start our season.”

just to answer why I think Whisenhunt treats Matt and Beanie like punks.

As far as I'm concerned The Bean and Matt Leinert should provide the same interview Saturday on the Bears sideline.

" If any team in the NFL wants to treat me like a real man instead of somebody's punk boy, I'll take out your number 1 and lead you straight to the playoffs for the next 7 years!" end quote.

Rex Ryan is the closest thing to Whiz's head games I've seen in the NFL. Most Head Coachs don't have time for such bafoonery. Time will tell but Chicago might just lay off Anderson to make him the Cardinals Starter, Pick up Matty to replace stupid Jake Plummerish Cutler and
KILL TWO CARDINALS WITH ONE STONE!

Oline and THT don't deserve a place at this table, at least Williams is a UFA rookie on the ONE bad pass Matt threw! you want perfection look at the cheerleaders and want!

I gotta beleive this is a bad dream that we will wake up from Sept 12th.
Matt has outplayed the rest of this offense under the blitz.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Man, I've never put anyone on ignore yet, but I'm definitely tempted...

 

[MadCardDisease]

Man, I've never put anyone on ignore yet, but I'm definitely tempted...

Would you do that to one of your own ASU alum?

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Would you do that to one of your own ASU alum?

I was crestfallen when I heard the news...

 

[8ndkorner]

Get over your man love and start thinking about the Arizona Cardinals. In Whiz we trust.

 

[40yearfan]

“I sense from our fans a little bit of discomfort because we don’t have the same guys we have had in there, and I understand that,” Whisenhunt said. “But I feel very good about the players we have on this team and knowing we will have the right combination when we start our season.”

just to answer why I think Whisenhunt treats Matt and Beanie like punks.

As far as I'm concerned The Bean and Matt Leinert should provide the same interview Saturday on the Bears sideline.

" If any team in the NFL wants to treat me like a real man instead of somebody's punk boy, I'll take out your number 1 and lead you straight to the playoffs for the next 7 years!" end quote.

Rex Ryan is the closest thing to Whiz's head games I've seen in the NFL. Most Head Coachs don't have time for such bafoonery. Time will tell but Chicago might just lay off Anderson to make him the Cardinals Starter, Pick up Matty to replace stupid Jake Plummerish Cutler and
KILL TWO CARDINALS WITH ONE STONE!

Oline and THT don't deserve a place at this table, at least Williams is a UFA rookie on the ONE bad pass Matt threw! you want perfection look at the cheerleaders and want!

I gotta beleive this is a bad dream that we will wake up from Sept 12th.
Matt has outplayed the rest of this offense under the blitz.

Matt? Is that you?

 

[THESMEL]

me too

so this is normal behavior for a head coach? who else is doing that this weekend? Ever? i'm angry at ESPN, NFLN, Gambo and ASH, and now Coach Whisenhunt!

So I'll shut up now, if I can? but I've never seen a successful team coached like this before, there is always a first time I guess.

Matt leinart is not antichrist and He is not the reason THT and the oline stepped on their Richards on MNF, MNM, or the Titans loss last year.
He completed 4-6 with a steady diet of Titans blitz and didn't have one IOTA of help from his team mates or the coach.

Makes me sick.

I was crestfallen when I heard the news...

 

[DoTheDew]

so this is normal behavior for a head coach? who else is doing that this weekend? Ever? i'm angry at ESPN, NFLN, Gambo and ASH, and now Coach Whisenhunt!

So I'll shut up now, if I can? but I've never seen a successful team coached like this before, there is always a first time I guess.

Matt leinart is not antichrist and He is not the reason THT and the oline stepped on their Richards on MNF, MNM, or the Titans loss last year.
He completed 4-6 with a steady diet of Titans blitz and didn't have one IOTA of help from his team mates or the coach.

Makes me sick.

This is going a little far. All reports have indicated that Whiz is very popular with the players. Could the reports be inaccurate? Sure I guess, but if they aren't then I say, if the players are okay with his actions towards them then what the heck is your issue?

 

[THESMEL]

issue

Whiz addressed it with that shout out, fan discomfort. I'm discomfortable
with Q, wanting traded for less money then we offered, Rolle and Dansby leaving for the same money. AW and Fitz as the only drafted Cardinals signed since whiz came to AZ. Ex Steeler busts, Ross, Laboy, Mcfaddon

But I know Whiz marches to the beat of a different drummer. My real beef now is that He is piling on pressure on his young QB while ESPN admits to premeditaed sabatoge of Matt Leinart on MNF! Whiz admits that THT was bad, the oline was bad, Breaston did run past the yard to gain, UFA Williams ran a bad route.

Whiz takes no responsibility for those players not being ready to make a first down, while Matt hit 4-6 under mid season blitzing pressure that WHIZ wasn't ready for! He said We were not prepared for them to blitz every down.

I hope this a ploy but think it aint, I think Beanie should start over THT hands down. The oline is way worse than it was even in the Saints game.
Matt Leinart completed 8-11 with 90+ QB rating in 2 presason games, Now if a RB gets a single yard and the Bears don't Blitz DA going to look like the savior and Matts going to look like the Antichrist.

Sorry I have a problem with that! and I''m angry.

This is going a little far. All reports have indicated that Whiz is very popular with the players. Could the reports be inaccurate? Sure I guess, but if they aren't then I say, if the players are okay with his actions towards them then what the heck is your issue?

 

[AzStevenCal]

I was crestfallen when I heard the news...

I demand the right to remain in a state of denial on the subject. Maybe it was Appalachian State University???

Steve

 

[MoeIsBetter]

I gotta agree saying this is deffinetly pre-mature. What I really don't understand is we ALL know Matt needs a running game to be successful...so why is THT in the game when Whiz knows we have to establish the run? It's almost like he is purposely trying to make Matt fail just to see how he responds. Either that or he REALLY hates Matt Leinart. I'm just calling it how I see it...

 

[PoolBoy]

wow. i guess every board needs their Andrew

 

[THESMEL]

Whos Andrew?

I don't know who Andrew is? I really care about the Cardinals and think Whiz's statement to the fans is code for something, I doubt him because of the lack of run calling before, He did give it to THT 5 times for 3 yards so maybe i'm wrong. Maybe the shuffled oline is a bust as a unit game time without Deuce?

I do know Matt did his part as the QB with 90+ QB rating and the Oline, WR's and the RB's need to Cardinal up and take it like a fan.

ESPN is out to destroy Matt Leinart and said so- full of themselves and East Coast Bias. If Andrew is up for it lead follow or get the hell out of my way.

wow. i guess every board needs their Andrew

 

[MoeIsBetter]

wow. i guess every board needs their Andrew

LoL What makes any of these posts ANYTHING like Andrews? Andrew came when Shaq came, loved him the whole time here, and left when Shaq left. Just because you're ok with this move doesn't mean everyone is. I'm no where near pro leinart but I don't think he was given a fair shot either. Don't understand how any of the posts above are anything like Andrews though lol.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

So I'll shut up now, if I can? but I've never seen a successful team coached like this before, there is always a first time I guess.

You just start watching the Cardinals this year ?

Cause this is the way Whiz has always coached. You earn your way onto the field.

Beanie is a great runner, no doubt, but his pass blocking is in question. HT is a better all-around back right now, as Beanie learns he will be utilized more.

Yet be prepared, Whiz is from the same coaching tree as Joe Gibbs, Dan Reeves, and Bill Cowher. All of these coaches have always believed in using two backs. Beanie, and HT will be a tandem, and as long as Whiz is the coach we will always have two backs.

Leinart has not done anything that would justify, not giving an oppourtunity to Anderson.

I think many people are making this out to be WAY WAY WAY more than it is. It is an oppourtunity, plain and simple. If Matt competes, and out-plays Anderson then he will be the starter.

Whiz has never given positions to anyone, and I doubt he will start now. If being "punked" means earning your keep, earning your spot, and earning the respect instead of having it handed over to you on a platter, then yes, they are both being "punked" right now. And thank goodness for it.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Maybe the shuffled oline is a bust as a unit game time without Deuce?

We got 7 NFL starters and cannot find 5 of them to execute a running play. Screw Beanie and Leinart, I am worried about the O-Line.

As for ESPN, why do you even bother. They are horrible.

 

[MoeIsBetter]

We got 7 NFL starters and cannot find 5 of them to execute a running play. Screw Beanie and Leinart, I am worried about the O-Line.

As for ESPN, why do you even bother. They are horrible.

Very well said. It doesn't matter who lines up under center. Right now anybody would be getting killed.

 

[azmike74]

I can't help thinking of that Howard Dean guy who did that horrible scream a few years back when I read this thread. lol

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I demand the right to remain in a state of denial on the subject. Maybe it was Appalachian State University???

Steve

I'm pretty sure Arkansas State, but either way.

 

[THESMEL]

Matt obviously feels the same way in the interview. He feels treated like a punk, like Edge, Beanie, Big Ben and others feel.

Its working but the fan base is exploding like a punkville! Where is the Ramones when you need them!

 

[BW52]

Matt obviously feels the same way in the interview. He feels treated like a punk, like Edge, Beanie, Big Ben and others feel.

Its working but the fan base is exploding like a punkville! Where is the Ramones when you need them!

People on this board always react strongly.A QB controversy has always brought out both sides.You obviously weren`t here when The Jake Plummer debate was raging.Or the Dave Brown is good enough to win debate.Kent Graham can do the job etc etc etc;;;;;Its always gonna happen...............Just wait and see next year if Leinart leaves...............JohnSkelton is great....no way man Max Hall gets it done............It doesn`t never change..just the names.Its called fandom.

 

[THESMEL]

difference

Matt Leinart is the best thing to happen to the Arizona Cardinals since Kurt Warner, Har Har before that Neil Lomax maybe!

Some act like they want to trade for Big Ben, his security and the girl from Georgia to win games and protect their daughters from the big felon.

I don't know much but character matters ask Johnny Mccain. In Whis we trust but that don't mean He aint gonna catch hell for destroying our franchise qB before He has a chance.

Coaches and players are come and go. US fans and Bill Bidwill are Cards forever.

Like I said the only difference between Matt Leinarts 3 NCAA champions, Heisman trophy and stellar rookie season is Ken Whisenhunt. Matt will go play for Mike Lombardi and win Super Bowls.

People on this board always react strongly.A QB controversy has always brought out both sides.You obviously weren`t here when The Jake Plummer debate was raging.Or the Dave Brown is good enough to win debate.Kent Graham can do the job etc etc etc;;;;;Its always gonna happen...............Just wait and see next year if Leinart leaves...............JohnSkelton is great....no way man Max Hall gets it done............It doesn`t never change..just the names.Its called fandom.

 

[Bobcat]

Get over your man love and start thinking about the Arizona Cardinals. In Whiz we trust.

NOT ANYMORE​

BOBCAT

 

[earthsci]

NOT ANYMORE​

BOBCAT

Because you are so darned smart that you know that Whiz isn't trying to motivate Leinart, will start DA on opening day and we will absolutely lose with DA as QB.

 

[O]

Matt Leinart is the best thing to happen to the Arizona Cardinals since Kurt Warner, Har Har before that Neil Lomax maybe!

Wow!