QB drafting

[Cbus cardsfan]

You want another reason the Cards QB situation is a mess just look at their history of drafting QB's. I've heard some GM's mention that you should try and take a QB very year because you never know who will work out. I don't think that's all that reasonable but until Skelton the Cards hadn't taken a QB since drafting Leinart and the only 2 QB's they have above round 5 since 1999 have been Leinart and McCown. Navarre and Griesen were 7th rounders. I could see it if the Cards had a fixture like Peyton Manning in place but they've been a revolving door at QB.

I looked up NE and they seem to take a QB at least every 2 years and that's with Brady, who was drafted when Bledsoe was entrenched. Most of the time they don't pan out but when they do. It's very much worth it. Brady was a comp pic too .
BUt the guys they have drafted are Rohan Davey, Kliff Kingsbury(i've got to type his name twice today , that's a first), Matt Cassell, Kevin O'connell, and Zac Robinson.
Since 2004 the Cards have taken The Matt Leinart and this year Skelton.

 

[football karma]

drafting qb regularly is a Ron Wolf (Packers) philosophy as well --

his theory was that its the most important position on the field, so you better be preparing one at all times, and worst case, too many QBs is an easy problem to solve.

To that end, Wolf ended up drafting Mark Brunnel, Matt Hasselbeck and Aaron Brooks on the second day of the draft -- and getting draft picks for them a couple years later when they were traded.

 

[Assface]

As far as continuing to draft QBs even when you have a starter look at New England a few years ago when Brady went down for the year in the first game. Not only did they have someone capable of stepping in and salvaging their season they later traded him for draft picks.

 

[Big D]

Hey, you never know. Whis' dumpster diving method might pay off some day

 

[GreenCard]

Was it Matt Lienart that kept Matt Cassell on the bench for three years?

 

[GreenCard]

oops

 

[Bobcat]

As far as continuing to draft QBs even when you have a starter look at New England a few years ago when Brady went down for the year in the first game. Not only did they have someone capable of stepping in and salvaging their season they later traded him for draft picks.

Yes as if must remember That New England QB was a Back-up to our own Matt Leinert. Now where has Matty gone and is being groomed for his next team by a real good head Coach with a lousy owner.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Yes as if must remember That New England QB was a Back-up to our own Matt Leinert. Now where has Matty gone and is being groomed for his next team by a real good head Coach with a lousy owner.

The "real good head coach" that has 1 winning record(9-7) in 5 years and has never won his division. Is that the one you're talking about? The one with a career sub .500 record. I'd like to know what your standards are for a good HC because the Cards coach has 2 division titles, until this year never a osing record,and a SB appearance in 3 years but somehow Gary Kubiak is the better coach . Hell, I guess my thinking is all f'ed up. Crazy me, I thought the object was to win. Maybe the real job of the HC is to produce good fantasy players like Schaub, Foster,and Andre Johnson. If you can do that, you're a good coach.

 

[Garthshort]

Worst case scenario. Houston falls out of the race, and gives Matt a shot at starting a game. He does well and is traded in the offseason for draft picks.

 

[Proteus]

The "real good head coach" that has 1 winning record(9-7) in 5 years and has never won his division. Is that the one you're talking about? The one with a career sub .500 record. I'd like to know what your standards are for a good HC because the Cards coach has 2 division titles, until this year never a osing record,and a SB appearance in 3 years but somehow Gary Kubiak is the better coach . Hell, I guess my thinking is all f'ed up. Crazy me, I thought the object was to win. Maybe the real job of the HC is to produce good fantasy players like Schaub, Foster,and Andre Johnson. If you can do that, you're a good coach.

To be fair Kubiak doesn't coach in a bad division so it's a bit more difficult to win the division than coaching in the Nfc West.

 

[Duckjake]

Worst case scenario. Houston falls out of the race, and gives Matt a shot at starting a game. He does well and is traded in the offseason for draft picks.

I still think that is why Houston signed him. Look at the weak free agent QB list for next season. I wouldn't be surprised if the Texans didn't trade him for a draft pick or two.

 

[Southpaw]

Was it Matt Lienart that kept Matt Cassell on the bench for three years?

It's been said the Carroll flipped a coin because he thought neither Matt L. or Matt C. were good enough to win the job outright.

 

[bugboy]

But you also have to be careful about taking a quarterback just for the sake of taking one. Just because you have an undrafted free agent or a 7th rounder coming in, it doesn't mean you should throw all thought and scouting out the window because you "got him for nothing anyway."

As bad as it is to go years without drafting a QB regularly, it is also idiotic to pick up 2 rookie quarterbacks during draft weekend and then have both of them still in the mix when the season opens. You pick the better guy and cut the other one, plain and simple.

It isn't like when Joe Gibbs was still coaching and he'd grab whatever rookies caught his eye and then stash them on the IR with phantom injuries until a spot opened up the following year.

At most, an NFL team nowadays will have 4 quarterbacks lurking around, 3 on the roster and 1 on the practice squad. However, a lot of teams today only go with two on the roster and some of those teams don't even have a practice squad quarterback.

Point being, with a position that important and so few roster spots available for it, you can't have two rookies on the roster in the same year and keep a competitive advantage. Hall should have never made it out of preseason.

 

[john h]

But you also have to be careful about taking a quarterback just for the sake of taking one. Just because you have an undrafted free agent or a 7th rounder coming in, it doesn't mean you should throw all thought and scouting out the window because you "got him for nothing anyway."

As bad as it is to go years without drafting a QB regularly, it is also idiotic to pick up 2 rookie quarterbacks during draft weekend and then have both of them still in the mix when the season opens. You pick the better guy and cut the other one, plain and simple.

It isn't like when Joe Gibbs was still coaching and he'd grab whatever rookies caught his eye and then stash them on the IR with phantom injuries until a spot opened up the following year.

At most, an NFL team nowadays will have 4 quarterbacks lurking around, 3 on the roster and 1 on the practice squad. However, a lot of teams today only go with two on the roster and some of those teams don't even have a practice squad quarterback.

Point being, with a position that important and so few roster spots available for it, you can't have two rookies on the roster in the same year and keep a competitive advantage. Hall should have never made it out of preseason.

Hall should have never been signed. Even if he paid us.