Quarterback Josh Rosen was the first in the building for Arizona Cardinals' voluntary workouts

[Brian in Mesa]

NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport: Quarterback Josh Rosen was the first in the building for Arizona Cardinals' voluntary workouts

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-network-insider-ian-rapoport-171139580.html

NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reports that quarterback Josh Rosen, who has been the subject of trade rumors this offseason, was the first player in the building for the Arizona Cardinals' voluntary team workouts Monday.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport: Quarterback Josh Rosen was the first in the building for Arizona Cardinals' voluntary workouts

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-network-insider-ian-rapoport-171139580.html

NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reports that quarterback Josh Rosen, who has been the subject of trade rumors this offseason, was the first player in the building for the Arizona Cardinals' voluntary team workouts Monday.

Not a guy you trade after one season under Wilks and McCoy behind the worst O line in football

 

[football karma]

interesting take:

this fact was given to Rapoport for a reason.

who gave it, and for what reason?

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

interesting take:

this fact was given to Rapoport for a reason.

who gave it, and for what reason?

Good point. At a certain point, Rosen is going to start getting irritated if this is not a ruse

 

[football karma]

Good point. At a certain point, Rosen is going to start getting irritated if this is not a ruse

a radio guy ( i wish i could remember) pointed out that at this time of year, every NFL reporter who "reports" things that only people in a given NFL building would know, are being fed that info by someone with an agenda.

 

[NittanyCard]

Not a guy you trade after one season under Wilks and McCoy behind the worst O line in football

Common sense isn’t common nowadays.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

a radio guy ( i wish i could remember) pointed out that at this time of year, every NFL reporter who "reports" things that only people in a given NFL building would know, are being fed that info by someone with an agenda.

And at a certain point, the damage that has been done to the relationship between the front office and Rosen (if this is not a ruse) is irreparable. If the Cardinals draft Murray to fit KK’s system and it doesn’t work out, history will not be kind to KK. I still think the Cardinals take Bosa or Q but I am not enjoying all of this high drama

 

[dscher]

Rapoport is better than this... In other news...Rosen drove to the facility..... in a car!! Reminds me of Billy Madison...Billy likes ice cream! Billys favorite color...is blue..lol

 

[Metcalf Rules]

But the big question is, "Was he the last to leave?"

 

[dscher]

Don't get me wrong.. it's good to see guys like Golden talking up the guy. Those are the things that make me feel a little better about Rosen if we don't nab Murray.

 

[TJ]

interesting take:

this fact was given to Rapoport for a reason.

who gave it, and for what reason?

Could be the team. Could also be his agent.

Rapoport is as dialed into the situation as anyone

 

[GatorAZ]

Well he’s under contract.

 

[POISON]

But the big question is, "Was he the last to leave?"

He's getting ready to be the 1st to leave I'm thinking; or hold his helmet on the sideline......

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

Quite a mess. Whether it is an agent or another team. I guess that it could be worse in the sense that somebody’s Daddy (Elway or Eli) could be boycotting a franchise, but I can’t remember a situation where there was such smoke around a guy that no one else would take at number one.

 

[football karma]

Could be the team. Could also be his agent.

Rapoport is as dialed into the situation as anyone

my theory:

Rapoport was the guy who reported that the Cards could take Murray and keep Rosen a week ago or so. That come from the team as a message to everyone else that the team wont be lowballed for Rosen.

I think todays news was also from the team -- to show teams thinking about Rosen what a dedicated guy he is

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

Not a guy you trade after one season under Wilks and McCoy behind the worst O line in football

Only thing even keeping Murray in this draft discussion is his scrambling ability. Rosen can make all the same throws & showed a little escapability last season. Familiarity with the "air raid" helps also but without the scrambling imo, he wouldn't even be considered.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

my theory:

Rapoport was the guy who reported that the Cards could take Murray and keep Rosen a week ago or so. That come from the team as a message to everyone else that the team wont be lowballed for Rosen.

I think todays news was also from the team -- to show teams thinking about Rosen what a dedicated guy he is

It is either that or Keim and Bidwilll are in deep trouble and Rosen has the leverage.

 

[Syracusecards]

a radio guy ( i wish i could remember) pointed out that at this time of year, every NFL reporter who "reports" things that only people in a given NFL building would know, are being fed that info by someone with an agenda.

I have an inside source that can confirm what you said is 100% true. Wait, does that mean it isn’t?????

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Only thing even keeping Murray in this draft discussion is his scrambling ability. Rosen can make all the same throws & showed a little escapability last season. Familiarity with the "air raid" helps also but without the scrambling imo, he wouldn't even be considered.

Except he literally can't make the same throws. Rosen has never been as accurate as Murray

 

[football karma]

It is either that or Keim and Bidwilll are in deep trouble and Rosen has the leverage.

im not following... Rosen has leverage for ...?

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

im not following... Rosen has leverage for ...?

To lower the value of the deal that Bidwill and Keim could make in order to go to a team that Rosen prefers. His agent could very well be on the phone and he could tell Bidwill and Keim to go ahead and draft Murray. Maybe he doesn’t want to play for the Giants or Redskins. He has all of the leverage now. Imagine if his agent starts reaching out on his behalf

 

[football karma]

To lower the value of the deal that Bidwill and Keim could make in order to go to a team that Rosen prefers. His agent could very well be on the phone and he could tell Bidwill and Keim to go ahead and draft Murray. Maybe he doesn’t want to play for the Giants or Redskins. He has all of the leverage now. Imagine if his agent starts reaching out on his behalf

doesnt he risk not getting traded at all if he does that and sitting behind Murray?

 

[TJ]

Except he literally can't make the same throws. Rosen has never been as accurate as Murray

The only throw Murray can make that Josh can’t is the throw to first.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

doesnt he risk not getting traded at all if he does that and sitting behind Murray?

Bidwill and Keim’s worst nightmare. They can’t do it because they have so many positions of need that it’s implausible. The fan base and locker room would be insanely angry after an 0-7 start with two wasted top 10 picks. KK would be on the hot seat. I never imagined it would get this far, but it has. Two young QB’s hold all of the leverage. Rosen could sink the whole thing by announcing that he is on the market and doesn’t want to sit.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Well he’s under contract.

It's voluntary.

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