Question for those who watched yesterday's game?

[Lefty]

If you were the third base coach for the Diamondbacks, would you of waved Drew home in the 6th?

I say most definitely. There were two outs and the ball was not hit directly to the left fielder. The team was losing 2-0 and the offense, as we all know, was struggling. You can't be conservative in that kind of situation, especially when you are losing.

 

[AZZenny]

I was there -- Upton is very fast, and at the moment, I thought it was the right move, so I voted yes. However, not half an instant later, as soon as the ball left the outfielder's hand, I realized it was going to be a dead heat and may have tried to call him back.

I don't agree you 'can't be conservative.' I'm a big believer in just keep the inning going, and in that sense, the momentum impact of the potential out at the plate on a close call is huge.

 

[Dback Jon]

I was there -- Upton is very fast, and at the moment, I thought it was the right move, so I voted yes. However, not half an instant later, as soon as the ball left the outfielder's hand, I realized it was going to be a dead heat and may have tried to call him back.

I don't agree you 'can't be conservative.' I'm a big believer in just keep the inning going, and in that sense, the momentum impact of the potential out at the plate on a close call is huge.

It was Drew, who had just gimped up slightly getting to second base. It was a game changing blunder by Hale.


Also, Lefty, put into context the fact that we have had THREE runners thrown out at the plate this week. Hale's judgement is suspect.

Upton was correct in stopping Thursday as well. NO reason to send him then.

 

[Lefty]

It was Drew, who had just gimped up slightly getting to second base. It was a game changing blunder by Hale.


Also, Lefty, put into context the fact that we have had THREE runners thrown out at the plate this week. Hale's judgement is suspect.

Upton was correct in stopping Thursday as well. NO reason to send him then.

I agree with you in that Upton made the right decision but did I ever say differently? No reason to send him when there are no outs. Yesterday was a totally different scenario where only a great throw nails Drew. I have no problem with the call and I hope if when they are in the same situation(2 outs and losing) he sends the runner. That is as long as the ball is not in the fielder's glove when the runner is just rounding third.

I wonder how those who disagree with sending Drew would feel if Hale held him and then Hudson made the third out, thus stranding Drew at third? I have a feeling what the answer would be.

The game is over and we have to move onto today. The Diamondbacks are now only a half game in first and face Peavy. Good news is Peavy is just coming off the DL and maybe the Diamondbacks can light him up like they did last year(eventhough he did pitch on only 3 days rest that game).

 

[Dback Jon]

BTW - I had taped the game, and re-watched the play in question. The ball was hit CLEANLY to the left-fielder, he was able to charge and was in great throwing position, and Drew was out be at least a step, if not too. Again, HORRID decision.


I would have had more confidence in Hudson moving the inning along that sending a Drew was was clearly bothered by his leg/foot. If the pitcher's spot, or Burke, etc - THEN I would agree with sending the runner, but not in the case.


And since you agree with Upton staying, then you agree that it would have been another HALE blunder, since Hale was trying to send him.

 

[AZZenny]

Oops. Obviously wasn't paying attention then, or when I read the post.


never mind

 

[Lefty]

BTW - I had taped the game, and re-watched the play in question. The ball was hit CLEANLY to the left-fielder, he was able to charge and was in great throwing position, and Drew was out be at least a step, if not too. Again, HORRID decision.


I would have had more confidence in Hudson moving the inning along that sending a Drew was was clearly bothered by his leg/foot. If the pitcher's spot, or Burke, etc - THEN I would agree with sending the runner, but not in the case.


And since you agree with Upton staying, then you agree that it would have been another HALE blunder, since Hale was trying to send him.

Obviously we're both not going to agree on the play and that is fine, that is what fans do. If we all agreed all the time, this board would be boring.

I'm just surprised because I did not think anyone on this board would of thought to hold Drew based on the team's offensive struggles. At the party I was at last night, not one person thought it was a bad decision. But like I said, this board would be boring if we all agreed, except when it comes to firing Melvin.

These next two games are crucial because they go back on the road next week. I think they can get it done because the Padres offense is just as bad as the Diamondbacks right now. Let's hope RJ can pitch much better tomorrow(Sunday).

 

[Skkorpion]

Yes. The three runners thrown out at home the last few days were are nailed by perfect throws. Bad joss, that's all.

Kill a rooster, take the feet off, put the feet in a pig bladder with bat some guano. At exactly midnight, put the bladder on home plate and burn it. Curse gone.

Simple. Chip Hale knows this. He's been to the Dominican Republic many times.

 

[devilalum]

Second guessing calls like this is mental mastrbation. Hale has a couple a seconds to decide. If the throw was just a little off Drew scores and the inning continues with MO in the Dbacks dugout.

Now I do think it is fair to question BoMel's decisions or lack of a pulse. I think Melvin sold his soul to Milhouse. And this is what you get from a souless manager.

 

[just do it]

BTW - I had taped the game, and re-watched the play in question. The ball was hit CLEANLY to the left-fielder, he was able to charge and was in great throwing position, and Drew was out be at least a step, if not too. Again, HORRID decision.


I would have had more confidence in Hudson moving the inning along that sending a Drew was was clearly bothered by his leg/foot. If the pitcher's spot, or Burke, etc - THEN I would agree with sending the runner, but not in the case.


And since you agree with Upton staying, then you agree that it would have been another HALE blunder, since Hale was trying to send him.

Thats not correct. it was a solid hit to left and the LF had to move to his right to get the ball. I t was a great throw period. With 2 outs the runner off at contact and an anemic offense you send him. Stop being so matter of fact while having 20/20 vision after they play. The issue is not sending runners home, its the doing the hit and runs/bunting for about 2 games then falling right back into the waiting for the 3 run homer that idiot Bob Melvin is doing. Melvin has the temperment for a little league team not a MLB team. He drove a good Seatle team to the basement and eventually do the same in AZ. The guy is a bench coach and nothing more. This team needs their arse chewed and someone other than 4th OF sent for assignment. The 2 jokes we got from Houston need to be delt with and made an example that effort and execution are a priority.