Questions for Mitch and draftniks

[BW52]

Looking at the current roster the Cards have several areas of need.
Several prospects who could help the Cards

OT
Nate Solder 6`8 316 Colorado-top OT available on some boards and can play LT

Gabe Carini Wisconsin -one of top OTs

OG
John Moffitt 6`4 323 Wisconsin

DE
JJ Watt 6`6 290 Wisconsin-

OLB
Jeremy Beal DE-OLB OKlahoma 6`3 267
Tom Keiser DE-OLB 6`5 257 Stanford

TE
Charlie Gant 6`5 260 Michigan State


DT
Mike Blanc 6`3 300 Auburn
Anthony Gray 6`1 315 Southern Miss

CB
Johnny Patrick 5`11 195 Louisville



Just wondered what anybody thought about these guys for the Cards?


Would the Cards take a OT in RD 1?
Could it look like this ?
AZ RD 1 Nate Solder OT
RD2 JJ Watt DE
RD3 Jeremy Beal OLB_DE
RD 3 John Moffitt G
RD 5 Charlie Gant TE
RD 6 Johnny Patrick CB
RD 7 Anthony Gray NT-DT

What about Mitch and gang?

 

[Duckjake]

Here's one take on Jeremy Beal.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1123597

solid tackler who can anchor against big backs to prevent them from getting extra yardage. Assignment-sure player who keeps containment on his side but still makes plays on inside runs.

Intangibles: Well-liked teammate known for his work ethic and attention to detail in the film room. Good football instincts. Not very vocal, chooses to lead by example. Durable player who lines up every week and gives full effort.

Boy if that doesn't sound like the perfect guy for the Cards to use in Haggans spot I don't know who does.

However, I doubt he makes it out of the 2nd round.

 

[Buckybird]

Boy if that doesn't sound like the perfect guy for the Cards to use in Haggans spot I don't know who does.

However, I doubt he makes it out of the 2nd round.

He did play for the Sooners though...

...but he is also a Texas boy too

 

[Mitch]

Looking at the current roster the Cards have several areas of need.
Several prospects who could help the Cards

OT
Nate Solder 6`8 316 Colorado-top OT available on some boards and can play LT

Gabe Carini Wisconsin -one of top OTs

OG
John Moffitt 6`4 323 Wisconsin

DE
JJ Watt 6`6 290 Wisconsin-

OLB
Jeremy Beal DE-OLB OKlahoma 6`3 267
Tom Keiser DE-OLB 6`5 257 Stanford

TE
Charlie Gant 6`5 260 Michigan State


DT
Mike Blanc 6`3 300 Auburn
Anthony Gray 6`1 315 Southern Miss

CB
Johnny Patrick 5`11 195 Louisville



Just wondered what anybody thought about these guys for the Cards?


Would the Cards take a OT in RD 1?
Could it look like this ?
AZ RD 1 Nate Solder OT
RD2 JJ Watt DE
RD3 Jeremy Beal OLB_DE
RD 3 John Moffitt G
RD 5 Charlie Gant TE
RD 6 Johnny Patrick CB
RD 7 Anthony Gray NT-DT

What about Mitch and gang?

Hey BW:

Did you trade down the #5 and pick up an extra 3rd rounder? What happened to the 4th rounder? And we have 2 6th rounders and no 7th rounders.

In any case...I think you have picked the right kind of LT we need in Solder. Yet, he would be a major reach at #5...he might actually still be available at #38 (early 2nd). Watt could be a force as a 34 DE or 43 DE and Beal is the kind of edge player the Cardinals need. I like all of your picks. Moffitt is for real (likens to Alan Faneca), and Johnny Patrick is one of the more under-rated CBs in the draft.

The only other issues I have are that I do not believe Beal, Moffitt and Patrick will fall as far as you predict. I would project Beal to be an early 2nd rounder, Moffitt to be a mid-to-late second rounder and Patrick to be a mid to late third rounder.

How about this:

1. Marcell Dareus, DE, Alabama (in place of Watt)
2. Jeremy Beal, OLB, Oklahoma
3. Johnny Patrick, CB, Louisville
4. Nate Irving, ILB, North Carolina St.
5. Greg McElroy, QB, Alabama
6a. Virgil Green, TE, Nevada
6b. Wayne Daniels, OLB, TCU

 

[BW52]

Here's one take on Jeremy Beal.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1123597





Boy if that doesn't sound like the perfect guy for the Cards to use in Haggans spot I don't know who does.

However, I doubt he makes it out of the 2nd round.

Cards need help at
Pass rusher-Beal,Keiser and Watt could help
ILB-Wondering if Beal could fill that role and that could allow Daryl Washington to move outside.Thinking aloud here.

OT-Solder or Carimi can both play LT and that woyuld allow Levi Brown to go to RT.Bridges could compete against the rookie LT for starters job.

OG-Moffitt could fight for a startwers job if Lutui goes elsewhere or Hadnot moves to center if Sendlein leaves.

TE-Charlie Gantt and Jim Dray both have size and Gantt has good catching ability.Another option could be Lee Smith of Marshall 6`6 267 a large target with decent blocking skills...............Spach and Patrick could both be gone.

CB-Johnny Patrick -ranked anywhere from RD 2 to RD 6 on Boards.Only played CB 3 plus years.Was a WR at Louisville until converting to CB.Talented and still improving.

DT-Anthony Gray can be a fireplug NT or a Stay at home DT to backup Dan Williams

 

[BW52]

Hey BW:

Did you trade down the #5 and pick up an extra 3rd rounder? What happened to the 4th rounder? And we have 2 6th rounders and no 7th rounders.

In any case...I think you have picked the right kind of LT we need in Solder. Yet, he would be a major reach at #5...he might actually still be available at #38 (early 2nd). Watt could be a force as a 34 DE or 43 DE and Beal is the kind of edge player the Cardinals need. I like all of your picks. Moffitt is for real (likens to Alan Faneca), and Johnny Patrick is one of the more under-rated CBs in the draft.

The only other issues I have are that I do not believe Beal, Moffitt and Patrick will fall as far as you predict. I would project Beal to be an early 2nd rounder, Moffitt to be a mid-to-late second rounder and Patrick to be a mid to late third rounder.

How about this:

1. Marcell Dareus, DE, Alabama (in place of Watt)
2. Jeremy Beal, OLB, Oklahoma
3. Johnny Patrick, CB, Louisville
4. Nate Irving, ILB, North Carolina St.
5. Greg McElroy, QB, Alabama
6a. Virgil Green, TE, Nevada
6b. Wayne Daniels, OLB, TCU

Thanks Mitch.I couldn`t remember what picks Cards had left.

 

[BW52]

Hey BW:

Did you trade down the #5 and pick up an extra 3rd rounder? What happened to the 4th rounder? And we have 2 6th rounders and no 7th rounders.

In any case...I think you have picked the right kind of LT we need in Solder. Yet, he would be a major reach at #5...he might actually still be available at #38 (early 2nd). Watt could be a force as a 34 DE or 43 DE and Beal is the kind of edge player the Cardinals need. I like all of your picks. Moffitt is for real (likens to Alan Faneca), and Johnny Patrick is one of the more under-rated CBs in the draft.

The only other issues I have are that I do not believe Beal, Moffitt and Patrick will fall as far as you predict. I would project Beal to be an early 2nd rounder, Moffitt to be a mid-to-late second rounder and Patrick to be a mid to late third rounder.

How about this:

1. Marcell Dareus, DE, Alabama (in place of Watt)
2. Jeremy Beal, OLB, Oklahoma
3. Johnny Patrick, CB, Louisville
4. Nate Irving, ILB, North Carolina St.
5. Greg McElroy, QB, Alabama
6a. Virgil Green, TE, Nevada
6b. Wayne Daniels, OLB, TCU

The only thing i see i disagree with is 5 Greg McElroy QB.Cards need a player to play DT and NT.As of right now the DT-NT spot is Dan Williams and DanWilliams only.Cards are very thin on DL and OL

 

[Snakester]

Wouldn't touch Nate Solder. Very good feet but other than that doesn't impress me. This guy has no fire and no a$$ to him. I think he will either take four years to develop or just flat out be a bust.

Gabe Carimi is the best lineman in this draft. There is no other lineman that I would take higher than Carimi.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Cards need help at
Pass rusher-Beal,Keiser and Watt could help
ILB-Wondering if Beal could fill that role and that could allow Daryl Washington to move outside.Thinking aloud here.

OT-Solder or Carimi can both play LT and that woyuld allow Levi Brown to go to RT.Bridges could compete against the rookie LT for starters job.

IMO Keith is better than Brown at RT. He was really starting to play well before his injury and his issues before he settled in were related to his lack of experience. I think Keith can be a pretty good RT, whereas Brown hasn't been good anywhere other than short stretches of time.

I love Carimi, but I seriously doubt he has the feet to stay with quick edge rushers. Maybe if he dropped some weight, but that's a projection. Carimi is a guard prospect or RT prospect. But that said, he's by far one of my favorite players in the draft and I think five years from now he'll be one of those players you wish was on your roster.

Washington is NOT a candidate to move to OLB. He's not big enough, nor is he good at getting off blocks. If you draft Beal, you're looking for him to play OLB.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Wouldn't touch Nate Solder. Very good feet but other than that doesn't impress me. This guy has no fire and no a$$ to him. I think he will either take four years to develop or just flat out be a bust.

Gabe Carimi is the best lineman in this draft. There is no other lineman that I would take higher than Carimi.

I watched Solder match up against Aldon Smith and he was not impressive whatsoever on the few downs that they matched up against each other. He's very stiff in the hips and doesn't get low enough, even though he has really good feet.

 

[lobo]

Looking at the current roster the Cards have

What about Mitch and gang?

Some very thoughtful points...the Whiskey OL is a real outstanding one

 

[Chopper0080]

Here's one take on Jeremy Beal.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1123597





Boy if that doesn't sound like the perfect guy for the Cards to use in Haggans spot I don't know who does.

However, I doubt he makes it out of the 2nd round.

I think Beal in the 2nd would be great. Assignment secure football and leadership are two areas the Cards really need.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

here's who I like by position and what I think they may be available to the Cards:
OT:
DeMarcus Love, Ark- early 2
Tyron Smith,USC- 2, will need to get bigger
Carimi-probably gone by 2
Joseph Barksdale,LSU- round 5, talented but questionable desire
OG:
Moffit- my Cards pick for round 4
Marcus Cannon, TCU: can play RT or OG. 350 lb's and one of the best athletes on TCU, 3 starter and mean streak, round 2 or 3
DT:
Kendrick Ellis, Hampton- we need someone to rotate with Williams. He's a former SEC recruit that wreaked havoc at the lower level. Big guy at 6'5 340, round 3--5
OLB: The usual suspects.
ILB:
Martez Wilson- the best one out there, round 2
Kelvin Shepherd,LSU- another LSU guy who started the year highly regarded but has slipped to mid round status.
TE:
I like Gantt as a good fit for the Cards or the best late round blocker.

 

[HookemCards]

Looking at the current roster the Cards have several areas of need.
Several prospects who could help the Cards

OT
Nate Solder 6`8 316 Colorado-top OT available on some boards and can play LT

Gabe Carini Wisconsin -one of top OTs

OG
John Moffitt 6`4 323 Wisconsin

DE
JJ Watt 6`6 290 Wisconsin-

OLB
Jeremy Beal DE-OLB OKlahoma 6`3 267
Tom Keiser DE-OLB 6`5 257 Stanford

TE
Charlie Gant 6`5 260 Michigan State


DT
Mike Blanc 6`3 300 Auburn
Anthony Gray 6`1 315 Southern Miss

CB
Johnny Patrick 5`11 195 Louisville



Just wondered what anybody thought about these guys for the Cards?


Would the Cards take a OT in RD 1?
Could it look like this ?
AZ RD 1 Nate Solder OT
RD2 JJ Watt DE
RD3 Jeremy Beal OLB_DE
RD 3 John Moffitt G
RD 5 Charlie Gant TE
RD 6 Johnny Patrick CB
RD 7 Anthony Gray NT-DT

What about Mitch and gang?

There isn't a franchise LT in this draft, so you don't take an OL at 5. I'd be ok with trading down with say Jax, to pick up an extra second and third and taking one there.

 

[BigRedArk]

He did play for the Sooners though...

...but he is also a Texas boy too

I know it's a tough world out there Bucky! Jeremy's big brother sits right next to me at work. Plus his last college game was in U of P stadium too!

 

[Hypothesis]

There isn't a true franchise type LT in this entire draft in my opinion. Be better off going after someone like Bushrod or Light via FA.

As for Beal...he is the real deal. He's the most NFL 3-4 ready OLB, out of the box type player in this draft. He'll never be the league leader in sacks, but his game is complete.

In the coming days I'll be working on compiling a large list of potential draft picks by positions with preliminary breakdowns on each player like I did for last years draft. Still have some colleges to go to and some video to watch. I'll repost some more findings after the combine.

 

[bg7brd]

Another OLB/DE guy to keep an eye on is Jaabal Sheard. These guys rate him at #38 ...right where we pick.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1243192