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If there is no season, and it's looking more and more every day that there won't be, I think that taking an Offensive lineman #1 in the draft becomes not that important. Take the wide receiver #1 and wait until next year when the O Lineman are supposedly more plentiful. It doesn't seem to be that great a need if they don't play this year if they sit out the year. In effect you would have 2 drafts before they ever play a game. It will be harder to choose any college player next year if the college season is also cancelled. Another issue would be if this year counts for free agency also. Just my take
 
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Another issue next year would be the order of the draft. It just gets more complicated the more I think about it.
 

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If there is no season, and it's looking more and more every day that there won't be, I think that taking an Offensive lineman #1 in the draft becomes not that important. Take the wide receiver #1 and wait until next year when the O Lineman are supposedly more plentiful. It doesn't seem to be that great a need if they don't play this year if they sit out the year. In effect you would have 2 drafts before they ever play a game. It will be harder to choose any college player next year if the college season is also cancelled. Another issue would be if this year counts for free agency also. Just my take

Or just the opposite.

Pick a lineman (who probably would have been a backup in 2020) and get him into the program: nutrition, weights, one-to-one training with position coaches, etc. RG and RT will be open in 2021.

Even if they play in empty stadiums, I'm betting on a season. The money is on TV.
 

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They will start a season. How far it goes depends on how well it’s received. There’s also the issue of keeping the players healthy. They have to make that happen. More than a couple slip through; it’s all over.
 

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They will start a season. How far it goes depends on how well it’s received. There’s also the issue of keeping the players healthy. They have to make that happen. More than a couple slip through; it’s all over.

Start - Stop!

Only health issues would trigger this, fans will watch per usual. IMO
 
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People would watch on TV but for now I just don't think they will want to be crowded into a stadium. Not this soon. And I think the players will be wary of it too
 

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If there is no season, and it's looking more and more every day that there won't be, I think that taking an Offensive lineman #1 in the draft becomes not that important. Take the wide receiver #1 and wait until next year when the O Lineman are supposedly more plentiful. It doesn't seem to be that great a need if they don't play this year if they sit out the year. In effect you would have 2 drafts before they ever play a game. It will be harder to choose any college player next year if the college season is also cancelled. Another issue would be if this year counts for free agency also. Just my take
They won't be calling off the season before the draft.

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They will start a season. How far it goes depends on how well it’s received. There’s also the issue of keeping the players healthy. They have to make that happen. More than a couple slip through; it’s all over.
I think they have plans in place for later start and fewer games...14, 12, etc...

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Count me among those who would watch on tv but not go near a stadium. IMO, the players would be stupid to play.
 

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If there is no season, and it's looking more and more every day that there won't be, I think that taking an Offensive lineman #1 in the draft becomes not that important. Take the wide receiver #1 and wait until next year when the O Lineman are supposedly more plentiful. It doesn't seem to be that great a need if they don't play this year if they sit out the year. In effect you would have 2 drafts before they ever play a game. It will be harder to choose any college player next year if the college season is also cancelled. Another issue would be if this year counts for free agency also. Just my take

I don't know what news you are reading, but everything is getting more positive.

The curve has already started to flatten.

There are 45 drugs in trial, several of which are showing great promise. The newest one is from Isreal where it brought back 4 people on ventilators back from almost certain death.

The stock market has rallied all week, meaning the smart money expects a recovery relatively soon.

On the contrary, a season is all but certain.
 

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They will start a season. How far it goes depends on how well it’s received. There’s also the issue of keeping the players healthy. They have to make that happen. More than a couple slip through; it’s all over.


They could also start the season at a later date like October or November. Really depends on when "treatment" and/or a vaccine will be available. Season could be November to February. The schedule could be set to take advantage of the doom stadiums and those in warmer weather cities. Playoffs could be in March and Super Bowl at the beginning of April. Lots of flexibility with as football can be played in all kinds of weather.
 

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If there is no season, and it's looking more and more every day that there won't be, I think that taking an Offensive lineman #1 in the draft becomes not that important. Take the wide receiver #1 and wait until next year when the O Lineman are supposedly more plentiful. It doesn't seem to be that great a need if they don't play this year if they sit out the year. In effect you would have 2 drafts before they ever play a game. It will be harder to choose any college player next year if the college season is also cancelled. Another issue would be if this year counts for free agency also. Just my take

I think they are looking for an offensive interior lineman in the third round
So trading down and adding picks is the more obvious choice if both Simmons or Okudah aren't there

Trade down options

Henderson
Chaisson
Andrew Thomas
Ruggs
Kinlaw
 

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I think they have plans in place for later start and fewer games...14, 12, etc...

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This is what I believe as well. A delayed start, an abbreviated camp, maybe 2 preseason games and then a shortened season.
 
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Count me among those who would watch on tv but not go near a stadium. IMO, the players would be stupid to play.
I agree...who on here is willing to be the guinea pig and be the 1st to walk into the stadium knowing there will be 50-60 thousand people there. The guy that gives you the 19 won't have a shirt on that says I've got the 19 and I could kill you
 

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I'm confident there will be some sort of season.

The question is how much of a preseason / training camp will there be if any? All I know is that the new coaching staffs are in a world of hurt right now!
 

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If there is no season, and it's looking more and more every day that there won't be, I think that taking an Offensive lineman #1 in the draft becomes not that important. Take the wide receiver #1 and wait until next year when the O Lineman are supposedly more plentiful. It doesn't seem to be that great a need if they don't play this year if they sit out the year. In effect you would have 2 drafts before they ever play a game.
Those who are apoplectic at the idea of taking a WR in the first round this year should keep in mind that even if there IS a season, it's OK to take a WR this year and improve the OL next offseason. Not saying that they SHOULD, just that the Cards are not likely to be Super Bowl contenders in 2020, so we should keep in mind that they don't have to make every part of the team equally strong this offseason.

If they make one part very strong (while planning for the eventual departure of Fitz) and remain "unbalanced" this year, then address the remaining weaknesses next time around, there's no reason to break your TV. Either way, they can aim to have a more "balanced" team in 2021 when they will hopefully have a shot at getting to the Super Bowl.

The same argument applies to taking Okudah in the unlikely event that he's available. Making the secondary even stronger this year, while neglecting the OL, is OK (and anticipates the potential departure of Peterson after 2020).

They've filled a lot of holes in FA this offseason and could try to fill the rest in the draft, and that might be the way they go or should go. But if they think there's a guy who can't miss and is a perfect fit for the team at WR or CB this year, that's cool. Take the BPA and the opportunity will be there to address OL before the Cardinals have a legitimate shot at a run for the championship.

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If the owners are secretly willing to bet on no season this year, then grab the WR or CB we keep talking about. I would not want to draft one of these 350 lineman and think with a year off that some won't blow up to 400-450. The WR and CB is much more likely to stay in shape for the following year.
 

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Those who are apoplectic at the idea of taking a WR in the first round this year should keep in mind that even if there IS a season, it's OK to take a WR this year and improve the OL next offseason. Not saying that they SHOULD, just that the Cards are not likely to be Super Bowl contenders in 2020, so we should keep in mind that they don't have to make every part of the team equally strong this offseason.

If they make one part very strong (while planning for the eventual departure of Fitz) and remain "unbalanced" this year, then address the remaining weaknesses next time around, there's no reason to break your TV. Either way, they can aim to have a more "balanced" team in 2021 when they will hopefully have a shot at getting to the Super Bowl.

The same argument applies to taking Okudah in the unlikely event that he's available. Making the secondary even stronger this year, while neglecting the OL, is OK (and anticipates the potential departure of Peterson after 2020).

They've filled a lot of holes in FA this offseason and could try to fill the rest in the draft, and that might be the way they go or should go. But if they think there's a guy who can't miss and is a perfect fit for the team at WR or CB this year, that's cool. Take the BPA and the opportunity will be there to address OL before the Cardinals have a legitimate shot at a run for the championship.

...dave

Mostly good, I have two issues. :)

Thanks for the word of the day (apoplectic). Had to google that one.

If we don't trade back from 8 then a BPA OT will be available. The chance of getting a quality OT in rd 3 is far less likely then getting a quality WR.

I do agree that we probably can't get it all fixed this offseason but getting more done in the trenches this year would IMO be better.

I'd also be good with drafting Okudah or Simmons at 8 if one of them were available. I just don't see any of the top 3 WR's grading much if at all better than the 2 to 4 OT's that will still be there for us at 8.
 

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No season I won't watch on television. I rarely do now and have even considered not renewing my season tickets after 30 years. For a different thread.

However I would go to a stadium and watch today if given the option. I do not understand why everyone thinks a vaccination is going to be a game changer. We have a vaccination for the flu and guess what? People still get the flu and still die from the flu.

Our current course of action has just prolonged the outcome. I believe in the theory of Herd Immunity. The CDC and Fauci have no clue and have not been close on any predictions. You have people saying we must lock down for 12 to 18 months and there will be zero sports for the entire year. The country cannot operate that way and for that long. 60 percent (estimated) of small businesses will not come back. Just my opinion.

Draft the best player available. We need a LB to cover tight ends. We need an OL. We still need a receiver. I think adding another top WR can actually help the OL by limiting teams from blitzing and quicker routes.
 

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I do not understand why everyone thinks a vaccination is going to be a game changer. We have a vaccination for the flu and guess what? People still get the flu and still die from the flu.
Good news: the flu vaccine needs to be updated every season because the flu virus mutates rapidly, so there are always multiple strains going around at any given time, and new ones every year. But coronaviruses don't mutate very rapidly at all. In fact, they seem to have a mechanism that "corrects" mutations and keeps their RNA stable. As well, the coronaviruses that have been seen so far all have a common feature, a "spike", which could be a common weak point for a vaccine that would protect against all coronaviruses.
https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-mutation-rate.html

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