Realistic Cardinal Offseason Plan (Long Post)

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All right, Leonard Davis is in all likelihood gone, and he’s not coming back. That said, the Cards should have in place a plan to replace him and staunch the bleeding on the roster. Hopefully, Rod Graves has learned that you can’t improve a roster by trying to plug holes created in free agency with draft picks. That was the #1 positive lesson of the Denny Green Era, and as Cardinal fans, we can only hope that it sticks.

The free agency crop in this period is thin at the top, which means that the Cardinals are going to have to move quickly to secure the best free agents. Fortunately, Rod Graves and the rest of the front office has shown a willingness to do so in the signing of running back Edgerrin James at the opening of the 2006 free agency period. It is essential that the Arizona Cardinals take the necessary steps to lock up their most coveted 1 or 2 free agents in the first day or two of the signing period.

Right now, coaches and scouts must be evaluating the talent on the roster to see who can be effective heading in to 2007. Already, reports are beginning to leak out that free safety Aaron Francisco will be taking a starting job. Also, cornerbacks Eric Green and Antrel Rolle will likely be given starting opportunities heading into camp to show that it was Denny Green’s quick hook and lingering injury that were holding back their development. This position will not be a concern for a starter in free agency. Further, the underachieving Orlando Huff will be replaced on the roster with Karlos Dansby at the all-important and playmaking position of Weakside linebacker. This opens a spot at the Strongside position that doesn’t have an apparent player aside from previous disappointment Calvin Pace. Oddly, the current market suggests that better free agent solutions will be available for the weakside position, but it is unclear that any of these options would produce better than Dansby.

The sad truth is that the best free agent prospect at offensive left tackle is Leonard Davis. It seems likely that current starting right tackle Reggie Wells will be moving into the left tackle spot for the Cardinals in 2007, at the very least for off-season activities. Wells will likely be aided by the presence of a tight end next to him in most offensive snaps.

The only positions where the Arizona Cardinals should truly feel safe going into free agency are quarterback (manned well by Matt Leinart, Kurt Warner, and John Navarre) and wide receiver (filled by Pro Bowlers Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald with above average third WR Bryant Johnson and a host of other depth players). Every other position should be seen as a possible place to improve the roster.

The coaching staff has also stated that they’re interested in becoming more physical along the interior of both offensive and defensive lines, as well as adding talent at tight end and fullback. They’ll also be looking to add depth to various positions around the roster.

This is still a young team. Another important lesson of the Dennis Green Era should have been that the team should look for (relatively) young free agents who will improve with time and experience, who are hungry to justify their value, and not players who have proven themselves and are looking for a last payday and to get out of the league still able to stand tall.

The Cardinals should have a plan. A plan is not hopes pinned on a handful of players; a plan includes contingencies that can be acted upon if Plan A happens to fail. If I were in the front office, this would be my plan heading into free agency, which is set to begin on March 1, 10:00 p.m. Arizona time (Bolded players represent names that would likely make headlines and command large salaries and bonuses; only expect at a maximum three of these players total).

OFFENSIVE RIGHT TACKLE (starter):
1. Jon Stinchcomb (Saints), 6’5”, 315 lbs., 28.
2. Tony Pashos (Ravens), 6’6”, 320 lbs., 27.Signed by the Jacksonville Jaguars
3. Marc Columbo (Cowboys), 6’8”, 320 lbs., 28.
4. Langston Walker (Raiders), 6’8”, 345 lbs., 28.

OFFENSIVE GUARDS (depth)
1. Andre Gurode (Cowboys), 6’4”, 312 lbs., 29. Re-signed to a six-year contract by the Dallas Cowboys
2. Derrick Dockery (Redskins), 6’6”, 325 lbs., 27.
3. Sean Mehan (Buccaneers), 6’3”, 301 lbs., 27.

OFFENSIVE CENTERS (depth)
1. Al Johnson (Cowboys), 6’5”, 311 lbs., 28.
2. Rich Braham (Bengals), 6’4”, 305 lbs., 36. Announced retirement

FULLBACK (starter)
1. Ovie Mughelli (Ravens), 6’1”, 255 lbs., 27.
2. Cory Schlesinger (Lions), 6’, 247 lbs., 35.
3. Fred McCrary (Falcons), 6’, 247 lbs., 34.

TIGHT ENDS (starter)
1. Daniel Graham (Patriots), 6’3”, 257 lbs., 28. Signed by the Denver Broncos
2. Reggie Kelly (Bengals), 6’4”, 255 lbs., 30.
3. Donald Lee (Packers), 6’4”, 248 lbs., 27.

DEFENSIVE TACKLE (rotational)
1. Ian Scott (Bears), 6’3”, 302 lbs., 25.
2. Robaire Smith (Titans), 6’4”, 310 lbs., 29.
3. Terdell Sands (Raiders), 6’7”, 335 lbs., 27. Already re-signed by the Oakland Raiders
4. Ron Edwards (Chiefs), 6’3”, 315 lbs., 28.

DEFENSIVE END (depth)
1. Patrick Kearney (Falcons), 6’5”, 273 lbs., 30.
2. Chris Kelsay (Bills), 6’4”, 275 lbs., 27.Re-signed by the Buffalo Bills

3. Dewayne White (Buccaneers), 6’2”, 273 lbs., 27.

OUTSIDE LINEBACKER (starter)
1. Adalius Thomas (Ravens), 6’2”, 270 lbs., 30.
2. Joey Porter (Steelers), 6'3", 250 lbs., 30.
3. Napoleon Harris (Vikings), 6’2”, 255 lbs., 28.
4. Pete Sirmon (Titans), 6’2”, 237 lbs., 30.
4. Scott Shanle (Saints), 6’2”, 245 lbs., 27. Re-signed by the New Orleans Saints
5. Tully Banta-Cain (Patriots), 6’2”, 250 lbs., 27.

CORNERBACK (depth)
1. Roderick Hood (Eagles), 5’11”, 196 lbs., 25.
2. Lenny Walls (Chiefs), 6’4”, 192 lbs., 27.
3. Travis Fisher (Rams), 5’10”, 189 lbs., 28.
4. Jamar Fletcher (Lions), 5’10”, 186 lbs., 28.

If I were running the Arizona Cardinals, to this list I’d add two players that would make my team better: Seahawks’ safety and playmaker Ken Hamlin (6’2”, 209 lbs., 26) and erstwhile tailback of the Falcons and Redskins T.J. Duckett (6’, 254 lbs., 27). Hamlin would easily outperform Aaron Francisco for the starting job while allowing Francisco to return to his most effective position as a third safety in nickel packages. Duckett would provide a physical presence in the backfield to complement Edgerrin James as well as a superior short-yardage option. I think that the Cardinals would also be well-advised to retain the services of safety Robert Griffith at least into training camp to provide more depth at the safety position as well as much-needed leadership and experience.

Look for the Arizona Cardinals to add between 7 and 10 players in free agency. Which leads to the 2007 NFL Draft. It’s really early to start mock drafting, before the NFL Combine kicks off next week and individual Pro Days begin, but if Rod Graves and the rest of the Cardinals are efficient and effective in free agency, they should be able to continue to draft along the best player available philosophy instituted under Dennis Green. With that in mind, I would like to see the Arizona Cardinals’ draft break down somewhere along these lines:

1. (5th overall) Gaines Adams, DE, Georgia; Jamaal Anderson, DE, Alabama; or Alan Branch, DT, Michigan.
2. (38th overall) Daymeion Huges, CB, Cal; Quentin Moses, DE, Georgia; or Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno St.
3. (69th overall) Buster Davis, LB, Florida State; Aaron Rouse, S, Virginia Tech; or Doug Free, OT, Northern Illinois.
4. (101st overall) Quinn Pitcock, DT, Ohio State; James Martin, OT, Boston College, or Martrez Milner, TE, Georgia.
5. (132nd overall) Doug Datish, OC, Ohio State; Mansfield Wrotto, OG, Georgia Tech; or Dallas Baker, WR, Florida.
7. (196th overall) Herbert Taylor, OT, TCU; Dan Mozes, OC, West Virginia; or LeRon McClain, FB, Alabama.

It all begins in 11 days, and the Arizona Cardinals must be ready to spring into action and furiously work the phones if they’re going to be successful in the 2007 season. Free agents are going to go quickly in this market; we should know within the first 10-14 days of free agency whether or not the 2007 Cardinals are the Titanic.

We won’t know until much later if the team is one of those Carnival Cruises where everyone gets sick two days in and walks off the gangplank booing.
 
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i agree the cardinals need to spring into action like they did last season.

At the runningback position the cardinals need to eithier sign micheal turner, T.J. Duckett, or draft Micheal Bush in the second round.

At linebacker the cardinals need to get Kiwika Mitchell for linebacker. All he did when i watched him was make plays for the chiefs.
 

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Terdell Sands has been resigned by Oakland.

per CBS

Raiders re-signed defensive tackle Terdell Sands to a four-year, $17 million contract. The deal includes a $4 million signing bonus. The deal includes base salaries of $800,000 (2007), $1.2 million (2008), $1.3 million (2009), and $4.6 million (2010). We Sands pegged as a sleeper for a team in free agency, but the 6-7/335-pound behemoth will probably get a great chance to push Tommy Kelly to start in 2007. (Feb. 14, - 3:38 PM EST)



Nicely put together write up.

Of the Olinemen I'm interested in Pashos and Dockery and would like to learn more about their careers to this point.
 

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Well thoguth out and realistic K9. if the Cards can add 7-10 players in free agency and 3 of them as immediate starters(OLB, Safety, OT) I think we can call this offseason a success even with the loss of Davis. Everyone else we sign or draft can provide quality depth (although you'd hope our #5 pick would be an immediate starter as well).

BTW what kind of name is TERDell? if the guy wasn't 6-7 335 I could imagine him getting a ration of, well you know...from everyone.
 
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Thanks for the note, Spck.

Pashos came off the bench for the Ravens and performed pretty well, all things considered. A young former 5th round pick who is big with long arms but reportedly limited athletic ability. Didn't play at all (because the Ravens were playing veteran Orlando Brown), but produced pretty well for the Ravens when he finally got his chance last season.

Dockery's started the last two seasons for the Redskins after entering the league as a 3rd round pick out of Texas. Big, versitile guy that could fill in at tackle at times. A little stiff in his hips, apparently. He's one of those guys that have gotten better every year.

Vinny, if you want Michael Turner, you better say what round draft pick you're willing to give up for him. He's a restricted free agent. Personally, I think he goes to the Jets for their second-round pick. I don't expect they'll get anyone better in free agency. As for Mitchell, I don't really like him because (1) he's a middle linebacker and (2) if he were so good, why does the Chiefs' D suck so bad every year. I'm not sure what plays you saw him make last season; his stats were really, really average.
 

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Good write up. I don't think that T.J. Duckett is a free agent meaning we would have to trade with the Redskins to get him.
 

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Duckett is an unrestricted free agent. I'm certain of that.
I got this off the theredzone.org website but don't know how current it is:
Washington Redskins 2007 NFLFree Agents

Player Position Type
Albright, Ethan LS UFA
Betts, Ladell RB UFA
Boschetti, Ryan DT ERFA
Dockery, Derrick OG UFA
Fox, Vernon DB UFA
Frost, Derrick P ERFA
Holdman, Warrick LB UFA
Jimoh, Ade CB UFA
Manupuna, Vaka DT ERFA
Molinaro, Jim OT ERFA
Posey, Jeff LB UFA
Pucillo, Mike OL UFA
Wade, Todd OL UFA
White, Jr., Manuel FB ERFA
Wright, Kenny CB UFA
Yoder, Todd TE UFA
 

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Vinny, if you want Michael Turner, you better say what round draft pick you're willing to give up for him. He's a restricted free agent. Personally, I think he goes to the Jets for their second-round pick. I don't expect they'll get anyone better in free agency. As for Mitchell, I don't really like him because (1) he's a middle linebacker and (2) if he were so good, why does the Chiefs' D suck so bad every year. I'm not sure what plays you saw him make last season; his stats were really, really average.


Why certainly,

Turner was drafted in the 4th round. I would be willing to give up to a 3rd round pick for him. He going to want starting pay. I feel Turner then can take over for James in the next season or two.

Mitchell is a Mlb. He has good speed and awareness. A solid tackler and plays the pass well. He is not a great football player, but he is a good football player. He is one of those players that is not going to demand a big payday and he is going to give it a 110 percent on the field. The kind of player that the cardinals need.
 
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I got this off the theredzone.org website but don't know how current it is:
Washington Redskins 2007 NFLFree Agents

Player Position Type
Albright, Ethan LS UFA
Betts, Ladell RB UFA
Boschetti, Ryan DT ERFA
Dockery, Derrick OG UFA
Fox, Vernon DB UFA
Frost, Derrick P ERFA
Holdman, Warrick LB UFA
Jimoh, Ade CB UFA
Manupuna, Vaka DT ERFA
Molinaro, Jim OT ERFA
Posey, Jeff LB UFA
Pucillo, Mike OL UFA
Wade, Todd OL UFA
White, Jr., Manuel FB ERFA
Wright, Kenny CB UFA
Yoder, Todd TE UFA

Well, according to the Washington Redskins' own website, you couldn't be more wrong, nor can theredzone.org:

T.J. Duckett, RB
Duckett was acquired last August to help out in case Clinton Portis's injured shoulder was not at full health for the season. Duckett never really got on track in Washington, rushing for 132 yards and two touchdowns on just 38 carries. A day after the Redskins season finale, Duckett said that he was looking forward to testing free agency.

The Redskins on Dockery:

Derrick Dockery, G
Dockery has emerged as a dependable and durable starter on an offensive line that was dominant late in the 2006 season. The unit finished fourth in the NFL in rushing and yielded just 19 sacks, fifth-best in the league. Coaches may not want to break up the offensive line, so it would appear that re-signing Dockery would be a top off-season priority.

vinny, why do you think we need an MLB? Gerald Hayes just got an extention, and Mitchell's going to be looking for a starting job. I think that Mitchell's overrated right now and there's no chance of him coming here. I'm actually pretty happy with Hayes and Darling/Beisel at MLB.

As for Michael Turner, I think that San Diego is going to want a 2nd rounder for him or they'll keep him for another season as a restricted free agent. They seem to choose RBs as well as the Broncos do. I wouldn't want to give up our 3rd rounder for Turner, but I think a team with a low 2nd (like the Jets) and a need will be more than happy to. Honestly, I think that this organization wants to see what it has in Arrington before cutting ties with that. I think that you'll get as good production out of Duckett for a slightly lower price but you won't have to give up a valuable draft pick.
 

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Great write up K9.

My only questions are why some players on not on your plan (not saying your wrong just wondering).

Eric Steinbach G Cincinnati

Nate Clements, CB Buffalo

London Fletcher-Baker, LB Buffalo

Nick Harper, CB Indy

Deon Grant, S Jacksonville

Terrance Holt, S Detriot

Charles Grant, DE New Orleans

Shaun O'Hara C, NYG

That being said I really like to see the Cardinals sign:

Pete Sirmon (Titans), 6’2”, 237 lbs., 30
Ovie Mughelli (Ravens), 6’1”, 255 lbs., 27


Oh Yeah Scott Shanle was resigned by NO
 

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Well, according to the Washington Redskins' own website, you couldn't be more wrong, nor can theredzone.org:
"Duckett was acquired last August to help out in case Clinton Portis's injured shoulder was not at full health for the season. Duckett never really got on track in Washington, rushing for 132 yards and two touchdowns on just 38 carries. A day after the Redskins season finale, Duckett said that he was looking forward to testing free agency. "


Thanks for getting that for me K-9. I wish there was a web site that had all the correct and up to date free agent lists. Not partial lists but all of them.
 
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Thanks for your input, Rugby. Here's what I think of your notes:

Eric Steinbach G Cincinnati - I don't think that OG is a premier position that we're going to look at in free agency. I'd really rather throw that money at Stinchcomb or Pashos. Steinbach is all right, but I'm not as ga-ga over him as many here are. I really don't think that he can play tackle. I don't think he'd come here, anyway. He'll get a better deal with a team that's closer.

Nate Clements, CB Buffalo - He's arguably the #1 player in free agency, at a position that the Cards at least publicly aren't placing a premium on. I'd rather improve the pass rush than upgrade at cornerback. Clements is going to get a massive contract that he's not going to live up to.

London Fletcher-Baker, LB Buffalo - He's really old, and I'm not that interested in signing old guys. I think that there are better options out there at SLB; Fletcher's best years are long behind him.

Nick Harper, CB Indy - Also old. I actually expect that he'll end up back in Indy.

Deon Grant, S Jacksonville - I don't like him as much as Hamlin. Seems kind of like a guy playing for dollars.

Terrance Holt, S Detriot - Didn't quite make my list because I don't think we're looking at safeties. I'd rather have Hamlin if we're going to sign someone. A good depth player, but he's not a playmaker.

Charles Grant, DE New Orleans - I expect him to be franchised.

Shaun O'Hara C, NYG - I expect him to be retained by the Giants. I don't think we'll be looking at centers early in free agency. He's a possibility, but I'm not sold. He's 30 years old and responsible for 5 penalties as a center, though he didn't allow any sacks. Just doesn't strike me as a guy that would help this team.
 
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i agree the cardinals need to spring into action like they did last season.

At the runningback position the cardinals need to eithier sign micheal turner, T.J. Duckett, or draft Micheal Bush in the second round.

At linebacker the cardinals need to get Kiwika Mitchell for linebacker. All he did when i watched him was make plays for the chiefs.

no way in hell we get michael turner. he'll get bigtime starters money like lamont jordan did. i'd be surprised if we went after duckett also as i'm sure he'll be priced outta our range. besides, i think we need a speed rb as a change of pace type runner.
 
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no way in hell we get michael turner. he'll get bigtime starters money like lamont jordan did. i'd be surprised if we went after duckett also as i'm sure he'll be priced outta our range. besides, i think we need a speed rb as a change of pace type runner.

I think that Arrington can be our change-of-pace guy. I'd agree with you about Duckett if his time in Washington hadn't been such a disaster. I wonder if we can't get him for a 2-year, $3 million deal with a team option for a third at like $3 million. I don't mind renting Duckett to make sure we can convert 3rd and 2 for the next two seasons.

We're not going to fix everything all at once. Maybe we take a chance on Alonzo Booker in the 4th round. There don't seem to be a lot of change-of-pace guys available in free agency.

But Shipp's gone (and good riddance), and we're going to need a guy who can convert short yardage situation while preserving our investment in James. I like Duckett to do that. He's 28, but he's a really young 28.
 

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no way in hell we get michael turner. he'll get bigtime starters money like lamont jordan did. i'd be surprised if we went after duckett also as i'm sure he'll be priced outta our range. besides, i think we need a speed rb as a change of pace type runner.

That was what people were saying this time last year about Edgerrin James. As far as a change of pace back, jj arrington fits that part. Personally i would love to have micheal turner or draft Micheal Bush. Bush is a playmaker and the back that whisenhunt is looking for.

K-9,

I went to compare stats between Hayes and Mitchell. Hayes has a slight advantage in stats. He has 2 more ints and 4 more pass defelections. The advantadge that Mitchell has over Hayes is his durability. Mitchell has started since Week 6 or 7 of 2004. Hayes hasn't been so durable in the NFL. It doesn't warrant to bring in Mitchell as a free agent.
 
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Yeah, but Mitchell is going to want a starting job, and he's not going to get that here. Why wouldn't he go someplace where he could start in the middle, like San Francisco, Miami (maybe), Philadelphia (maybe), Washington, St. Louis, or any number of other places?

Honestly, I don't think that Mitchell is enough of a playmaker to even warrant having this conversation. Beisel can be just as good as a fill-in and backup for a quarter of the price. 1.5 sacks and 1 INT?
 

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I didn't know Napolean Harris was an UFA. He would go right at the top of my list for SLB. I really want Hamlin and think he should be one of our top priorities. In the draft, i know Pitcock has fallen a bit but he'll be long gone by round 4. I like all the free agents you listed. If i had to pick a top 7 free agents they would be:
Steinbach,OG/C- i would try him at Center. Whiz is very familiar with him from going against him twice a year.
Hamlin,FS- would be a big piece of the puzzle defensively.
Pashos/Stinchcomb,OT- we have to get a tackle in here somwhere and they are serviceable veterans.
Graham,TE-i think he's one of the top guys out there and ,by far, the best TE available.
Harris,LB-you can plus him in as a starter from day 1 at SLB.He would fill another big need on the defense.
Hood, CB-he could come in and challenge for a starting job and the Cards are going to need some experienced guys back there.
Jamar Fletchr, CB-I 've always liked him and think he can be a very good nickel back.

For the draft in round 1, i like Anderson, Adams, Peterson,Branch, Ginn. Almost anyone other than Levi Brown at 5.
round 2-Joe Staley we need some young tackle to develop, Paul Posluzsny, Michael Griffin
round 3-Rufus Alexander, Antonio Pittman, Tanard Jackson
round 4-Mrkristo Bruce,Tarell Brown,Steve Smith
round 5-Kyle Young,Mike Otto, CJ Gaddis
round 7-Cory Anderson,LeRon McClain
 

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Nate Clements, CB Buffalo - He's arguably the #1 player in free agency, at a position that the Cards at least publicly aren't placing a premium on. I'd rather improve the pass rush than upgrade at cornerback. Clements is going to get a massive contract that he's not going to live up to.

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I'd put a premium on this guy. It's the least they can do after clearing out so much cash.

But your right - the premium should be put on the lines and a pass rush. We have talent there, we could just use a little more. It would upgrade Rolle and Green alot , then we'd need some talent in the draft.

Sitting at 5, we're sure to get it. I like Branch there but would settle for Anderson. Unless of course by some miracle Thomas or Peterson fall there.

In the second round I like the USC kid R. Kalil. But the CB's, I can't really argue with either. In a trade down we could target both.

I think Stinchcomb or Pashos are a necessity at this point.

A. Thomas , you could make the same argument as Clement. I like Napolean Harris alot and he's younger too.
 
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In the draft, i know Pitcock has fallen a bit but he'll be long gone by round 4.

For what it's worth, I was going for availability based on the value rankings at TheHuddleReport.com. I'm not going to get invested in anything until after Pro Days start, but all of the guys I selected were +/- four spots from where we picked based on their value rankings. Maybe he'll be gone, but The Huddle Report doesn't seem to think so.

Be wary of cornerbacks from Philadelphia, my friend. They never seem to be quite as goon once they leave home. JeffGollin learned his lesson three years ago about that.
 

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Anybody else like Travis Fisher to puch Rolle and Green? Daniel graham should be our 2nd Free Agent target (behind the tackle we will sign).
 

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Anybody else like Travis Fisher to puch Rolle and Green?

I think you meant "push" there, but in case you meant "punch" I'm all for it. Maybe these young men need physical motivation. Sometimes a slap across the face will do that.
 
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Well, free agency is getting uglier and uglier for the Arizona Cardinals. Thank goodness we saved all that money last season. :bang:
 

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Way to go out on a limb here K9...all you did was posts lists of free agents...and offered no sustained commitment on your part as to whom the Cardinals, IYO, should sign. All save S Ken Hamlin and RB T.J. Duckett...

Hamlin would be a nice addition, I agree. His addition could certainly prevent the worst thing that could happen to you and your ability to prognosticate: Aaron Francisco becoming the starting FS.

Duckett, for whatever reason, has been a classic underachiever...it would be better if the Cardinals signed a running back who can hit the hole with a burst, not a lumbering psuedo power back.
 
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Way to go out on a limb here K9...all you did was posts lists of free agents...and offered no sustained commitment on your part as to whom the Cardinals, IYO, should sign. All save S Ken Hamlin and RB T.J. Duckett...

Hamlin would be a nice addition, I agree. His addition could certainly prevent the worst thing that could happen to you and your ability to prognosticate: Aaron Francisco becoming the starting FS.

Duckett, for whatever reason, has been a classic underachiever...it would be better if the Cardinals signed a running back who can hit the hole with a burst, not a lumbering psuedo power back.

Um... I presented a plan as well as the players that I would want in a ranked list at each position. I would think that the numbers would illustrate which players that I preferred, and in which order. I gave my reasons for why I think that each position should be addressed in the prose areas, Mitch.

I read all of your posts. I wish you'd do me the courtesy of reading mine. If you look at the entire thread, you'd also see that I posted respectful responses to people who were wondering about my omissions. All this without crazily moving players to different positions.

And I did explain why I would want Ken Hamlin:

Hamlin would easily outperform Aaron Francisco for the starting job while allowing Francisco to return to his most effective position as a third safety in nickel packages.

As for "going out on a limb"? Well, all you have to do is look at the title of the thread to understand my outlook on the offseason.
 

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