Reggie Bush's Housing Problem In LA

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Reggie Bush's Housing Problem In LA.

I am very surprised that no one has picked up on this issue since it may cost USC to forfeit all of last years games. It was talked about on Cold Pizza this morning. It is now in the hands of the PAC-10.

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vinnymac said:
what!! his parent's leased that house. enough said.

If they never made rent payment though, it is a problem. Especially since the guy who really pushed to be Bush's agent was the name on the deed.
 

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that is the problem with todays world. people like to make a mountain out of a mole hill. people are up in other people business. it not the bush's fault that they had an easy landlord.
 

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Hard to predict where Bush story could lead

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Hard to predict where Bush story could lead

April 25, 2006

BY CAROL SLEZAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST


The scouting reports on Reggie Bush gush about his speed and quickness, his instinct, his elusiveness, his hands. They say he is a touchdown waiting to happen, whether as a running back, a receiver or a return man. They say he is a game changer. And if you've seen him play, you'd say the same.

None of the scouting reports mentions the messy business Bush has left behind at USC. They don't mention the 3,000-square-foot house his parents lived in. They don't mention that the house reportedly was purchased for more than $757,000 by a man named Michael Michaels, who allegedly was trying to steer Bush toward a particular agent. They don't mention that Bush's mom, stepdad and brother moved into the house shortly after Michaels bought it, during Bush's final season at USC.

Bush is on his way to NFL riches, maybe with the Houston Texans, who hold the first pick in this weekend's draft. So who cares if his parents accepted favors from some agenda-laden guy? The NFL sure doesn't care about those silly NCAA rules. NFL fans don't care about them, either.

University of Texas football fans care about the rules, though. At least they do now, since Bush might have broken them. According to ESPN, Texas fans have been e-mailing the Heisman Trophy folks, calling for Bush's 2005 award to be revoked. They think runner-up Vince Young, the Texas quarterback, should get it instead.

USC cares about the rules, too. Bush might be gone, but the Trojans' football program remains. Seeing as the school has a vested interest in staying in the NCAA's good graces, it has asked the Pac-10 to investigate the Bush situation. Penalties could ensue.

Tim Henning, coordinator of the Heisman Trust, told me that Heisman officials plan to wait until the NCAA investigation is over before deciding what to do about Bush. Heisman eligibility rules state only that the winner "must be a bona fide student of an accredited university'' and "must be in compliance with the bylaws defining an NCAA student.'' I hear these vague words and think there could be wiggle room for Bush, who as we all know has a knack for squeezing through tiny openings.

Bush told ESPN on Monday that his parents "leased the house, just like any normal family would.'' He said the story "is getting blown out of proportion.'' Is it? Then why did Bush decline to say who paid the rent on his parents' house?

As college athletes and their families know, it's against NCAA rules to accept benefits from a sports marketer, an agent or an agent's representatives. It's possible that Bush's family actually was leasing the expensive house in Spring Valley, Calif., near San Diego, for fair market value, as Bush implied on ESPN. But it doesn't add up.

Before they moved into the house, Bush's family reportedly lived in a condominium half its size. According to the San Diego Union-Tribune, Bush's stepdad, LaMar Griffin, "in previous years faced financial troubles for unpaid bills, including $4,251 to the [California] Employment Development Department.'' Griffin is a security guard at a San Diego high school. Bush's mom works at a county jail.

I find it curious that as soon as questions arose about the house, the family up and moved. (Bush told ESPN that the timing of the move was merely "coincidental.'') I also find it curious that the attorney for Bush and his family, David Cornwell Sr., said in a statement to the AP on Monday that Bush knew nothing about his parents' housing situation.

"Reggie Bush was a full-time student at the University of Southern California and never lived in the house,'' Cornwell said. "As is the case with most 20-year-old college students, Reggie was not aware of personal or financial arrangements relating to his parents or their house.''

Of course, Bush is not "most 20-year-old college students.'' It strains credibility that he would be unaware of his parents' financial arrangements regarding the house, particularly when its owner, Michaels, was courting Bush.

And what kind of person is this Michaels character? According to the Union-Tribune, Michaels, the director of economic development for the Sycuan Ban of Kumeyaay Indians, was arrested under the name Michael Pettiford in 1999 "on felony charges of making terrorist threats and discharging a firearm in a negligent manner.'' The incident involved the Sycuan tribal chairman; the charges were dropped for lack of evidence.

Michaels' business partner, Lloyd Lake, is serving a 30-month prison sentence for a "drug-related offense.'' Lake initially received probation, the paper reported, but was jailed after he beat up his live-in girlfriend. Apparently Michaels and Lake were hoping to start a marketing company with Bush as their big star. But Bush didn't sign with them, or with the agent Michaels was steering him toward.

Bush declined to answer a question from ESPN about his relationship with Michaels.

"There will be a later time for details,'' he said.

And hopefully a few answers, as well.
 

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Interesting timing on the story -- basically a week before the draft. Wondering if some team is trying to get Bush to drop in the draft.
 

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Scott MS said:
Interesting timing on the story -- basically a week before the draft. Wondering if some team is trying to get Bush to drop in the draft.
NFL couldn't care less. Pac 10 and NCAA might care a bit more.
 

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Reggie Bush's Housing Problem In LA.

I am very surprised that no one has picked up on this issue since it may cost USC to forfeit all of last years games. It was talked about on Cold Pizza this morning. It is now in the hands of the PAC-10.

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Looks good to me as Arkansas's loss last year by a score of something like 70-13 will turn into a win if they find something wrong. Looking at that house and now finding out the owner is representing Bush in some capacity sounds like a case for CSI.
 

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Interesting timing on the story -- basically a week before the draft. Wondering if some team is trying to get Bush to drop in the draft.

It will make no difference what so ever to teams drafting players. It will effect The UCLA football team for years to come if anything comes of this. Some reporter dug out the story which seems to be right out in front of everyones nose. Does it matter? If you have any ethics it matters. If you do not then it does not matter.
 

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Since Washington is coming off 2 years probabtion, they might like to see USC lose some recruiting edge with probation.
 

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sounds like to me that bush's parents cashed in on reggie's name. as long as reggie bush didn't recieve any bennifits from micheals and usc didn't know anything about this then everything should be good. i believe this is a lot do about nothing. just a deal between micheals and the bush's that went bad.
 

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The funny thing is fans from Texas are calling the Heisman committee to rescind Bush's heisman. I mean it's TEXAS for crying out loud. The only way Vince Young doesn't take a pay cut is if he's a top 3 pick.Why do you think all those guys stay at Texas for 4 years? That's like Miami turning in FSU for inappropriate recruiting.
 

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The funny thing is fans from Texas are calling the Heisman committee to rescind Bush's heisman. I mean it's TEXAS for crying out loud. The only way Vince Young doesn't take a pay cut is if he's a top 3 pick.Why do you think all those guys stay at Texas for 4 years? That's like Miami turning in FSU for inappropriate recruiting.

or Ohio State calling anybody out for recruiting violations.
 

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or Ohio State calling anybody out for recruiting violations.
I knew i'd get a response.That was the bball program.There were no violations found in football and that includes all of Maurice's claims. But, i'm sure they are pretty shady,just like any other major program.
 

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vinnymac said:
sounds like to me that bush's parents cashed in on reggie's name. as long as reggie bush didn't recieve any bennifits from micheals and usc didn't know anything about this then everything should be good. i believe this is a lot do about nothing. just a deal between micheals and the bush's that went bad.

Come on if they were getting a break do you REALLY believe Reggie knew nothing about it? do you really believe a 20 year old college junior and heisman candidate wasn't routinely calling his parents? That all those times his stepdad was in the crowd talking to reporters about reggie's decision upcoming that he was just guessing, that he never spoke to Reggie about it?

I have no idea if it's a true story or not, as I mentioned a huge deal was made of Jim harrick's son selling his Blazer to Baron Davis' sister when UCLA was recruiting Baron, and it turned out she paid ABOVE market for the vehicle and the NCAA dropped the whole thing. But the original rumor here was the Bush family paid no rent, now the claim is they may have paid a reduced rent, or someone else may have paid the rent for them. Any of those 3 is an NCAA violation because Michaels is connected to a licensed sports agent.

I guarantee you there are situations like this all over the country but if the Bush family got a break here, and the NCAA investigates, it's a big deal, USC could get in trouble for playing with an ineligible player. And so far the actions of Bush' family and Reggie sure point to there being fire where the smoke is coming from.
 

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And the plot thickens, from Yahoo! sports:



Transcripts allegedly tie Bush to sports agency

By Charles Robinson, Yahoo! Sports
April 26, 2006




Transcripts of parole violation hearings for New Era Sports & Entertainment associate Lloyd Lake not only detail alleged links between the marketing agency and USC running back Reggie Bush but also indicate contact with Trojan offensive tackle Winston Justice during the 2005 college football season.

In the transcripts – acquired by Yahoo! Sports from the U.S. District Court in San Diego – Lake's attorney, Marc Carlos, contends that his client's sports agency was "in negotiations with recruiting Reggie Bush" and that the agency at some point considered "potential litigation – or a settlement involving Mr. Bush's involvement with that agency."

San Diego-based agent David Caravantes, testifying as a character witness, claimed that he and Lake began working together in October to start a sports marketing firm that would be tied to the Sycuan Indian Tribe. That firm eventually took on the name New Era Sports & Entertainment. One of the tie-ins to the tribe was Michael Michaels, another one of the New Era founders who also works as a business officer for the Sycuans.


And Dan Wetzel, the same guy who trashed UCLA the day of the NCAA finals in hoops, wrote an article today on yahoo! about how unfair it is to blast Bush when everyone around him made millions off him. I agree with that. But in the article he details that last summer Bush worked as a "paid intern" for Michael Ornstein who is a paid consultant of Reebok. And coincidentally enough, Ornstein works with Joel Segal who is now bush' agent, and Ornstein is Bush' "marketing representative", the same role Michaels wanted to fill for Bush.

I hate to jump to conclusions and have an admitted bias being a UCLA fan but it sure looks from the outside like Bush violated his amateur status to me, and it's implied that Winston Justice did too.
 

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And the plot thickens, from Yahoo! sports:



Transcripts allegedly tie Bush to sports agency

By Charles Robinson, Yahoo! Sports
April 26, 2006




Transcripts of parole violation hearings for New Era Sports & Entertainment associate Lloyd Lake not only detail alleged links between the marketing agency and USC running back Reggie Bush but also indicate contact with Trojan offensive tackle Winston Justice during the 2005 college football season.

In the transcripts – acquired by Yahoo! Sports from the U.S. District Court in San Diego – Lake's attorney, Marc Carlos, contends that his client's sports agency was "in negotiations with recruiting Reggie Bush" and that the agency at some point considered "potential litigation – or a settlement involving Mr. Bush's involvement with that agency."

San Diego-based agent David Caravantes, testifying as a character witness, claimed that he and Lake began working together in October to start a sports marketing firm that would be tied to the Sycuan Indian Tribe. That firm eventually took on the name New Era Sports & Entertainment. One of the tie-ins to the tribe was Michael Michaels, another one of the New Era founders who also works as a business officer for the Sycuans.


And Dan Wetzel, the same guy who trashed UCLA the day of the NCAA finals in hoops, wrote an article today on yahoo! about how unfair it is to blast Bush when everyone around him made millions off him. I agree with that. But in the article he details that last summer Bush worked as a "paid intern" for Michael Ornstein who is a paid consultant of Reebok. And coincidentally enough, Ornstein works with Joel Segal who is now bush' agent, and Ornstein is Bush' "marketing representative", the same role Michaels wanted to fill for Bush.

I hate to jump to conclusions and have an admitted bias being a UCLA fan but it sure looks from the outside like Bush violated his amateur status to me, and it's implied that Winston Justice did too.


Consider that so many underclassmen are leaving USC this year. Just a shot in the dark, but it makes me wonder if there are more revelations to come.
 

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Transcripts allegedly tie Bush to sports agency
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Transcripts of parole violation hearings for New Era Sports & Entertainment associate Lloyd Lake not only detail alleged links between the marketing agency and USC running back Reggie Bush but also indicate contact with Trojan offensive tackle Winston Justice during the 2005 college football season.

In the transcripts – acquired by Yahoo! Sports from the U.S. District Court in San Diego – Lake's attorney, Marc Carlos, contends that his client's sports agency was "in negotiations with recruiting Reggie Bush" and that the agency at some point considered "potential litigation – or a settlement involving Mr. Bush's involvement with that agency."

San Diego-based agent David Caravantes, testifying as a character witness, claimed that he and Lake began working together in October to start a sports marketing firm that would be tied to the Sycuan Indian Tribe. That firm eventually took on the name New Era Sports & Entertainment. One of the tie-ins to the tribe was Michael Michaels, another one of the New Era founders who also works as a business officer for the Sycuans.

The Sycuan Tribe, acknowledging it was approached by Michaels and Lake, told the Associated Press Tuesday that it had no role with New Era Sports.

"There was a request to become partners in this New Era Sports," Adam Day, Sycuan's assistant tribal manager, told AP. "Both the tribal council and the development corporation board of directors refused to join into the business venture."

In the unsworn court testimony, taken on Jan. 30 and Feb. 6, in front of M. James Lorenz, Carlos produced a brochure put together by New Era Sports. The attorney then outlined Lake's role with New Era, and the marketing firm's involvement with Bush as a prospective client.

Carlos alluded to a fallout between Bush and New Era, noting that there had even been potential litigation discussed by the agency for breach of an agreement on the part of Bush and his family.

"He has been trying to get together a sports agency group," Carlos alleged of the attempt by Lake and others to form New Era Sports. " Apparently, they were in negotiations with recruiting Reggie Bush. And that matter is in litigation right now due to, I guess, representations made by Bush and his family to Mr. Lake's group."

Carlos later revisited the alleged fracturing of the relationship between the Bush family and New Era, noting that a meeting was supposed to have taken place among members of the firm to discuss some form of litigation.

"Apparently, what happened is that Mr. Bush – or through his associates – had made some type of agreement with Mr. Lake's group, the sports agency group that they had. There was a meeting to have happened. It was supposed to be on a Saturday where they were going to discuss potential litigation – or a settlement involving Mr. Bush's involvement with that agency."

Carlos, reached Tuesday, declined to elaborate on the testimony.

Details about Justice, a junior tackle who has made himself eligible for this weekend's NFL Draft, also surfaced during Lake's testimony. On Nov. 26, 2005 – one week before USC was to play UCLA in the regular season finale – Lake testified that both Justice and Bush were supposed to spend the night out with him. In his testimony, Lake explained his girlfriend had gotten upset with him for planning to go out with Bush, Justice and some of Bush's friends.

"Well, I had a sports agency we had formed, and we had a guy in, Winston Justice, from USC," Lake testified. "And [my girlfriend] had planned to go out with us that night, but Reggie Bush came into town. And at that time, he was going to go out with us, so I told her all his friends were coming and that it wasn't a good night for us to go out, and that kind of got her upset."

Lake said the group took a limousine to a club, and then eventually dropped Justice off at "Hotel Shalimar." There is no listing for a Hotel Shalimar in San Diego, however, there is an upscale $300 per-night resort in the city's Gaslamp district called "Hotel Solamar." It is unclear from the testimony whether Bush was part of the group that night.

USC spokesman Tim Tessalone said the school was unaware of any of the details of the testimony.

"That's the first that we've heard of it and I probably need to verify it with Winston," Tessalone said of Justice's name appearing in the testimony.

Tessalone also told Yahoo! Sports that USC football coach Pete Carroll and athletic director Mike Garrett would be reserving comment until an ongoing investigation is concluded. An NCAA source confirmed Tuesday that the association has joined the Pacific 10 Conference in investigating the relationship between New Era Sports and Bush.

Caravantes also gave details of the New Era Sports venture in his testimony.

"Lloyd and I had got together in October to start a new sports management firm with the Sycuan, the Indian resort," Caravantes said. "And since then, Lloyd and myself, and some members of Sycuan and others, have put together a company called New Era Sports and Entertainment. And since October, Lloyd was a viable part of the company, helping recruit players, and in the process of merging this New Era Sports with Sycuan. In the process of this happening, you know, it obviously hurt the company because he had relationships with certain players who ended up not signing."

Bush signed with agent Joel Segal and marketing representative Michael Ornstein. His family lived in a house owned by Michaels for most of the last year until moving out last week.

Bush attorney David Cornwell and USC offensive tackle Winston Justice didn't return calls seeking comment.
 
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