Replay on Fitz td that was overturned

Russ Smith

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On radio Calvisi said he was standing next to a cameraman who'd got the entire play on digital camera. THe guy showed him a shot where he can zoom in on the pic that showed Fitz had both feet inbounds. Didn't matter we scored but you have to wonder with all the technology available today how come the tv replay wasn't clear enough to show that?

From the replay on tv I think the ref made the right call, but from what Calvisi said this guys shot was 100% conclusive it was a TD.

If you're going to use technology, use the best?
 

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From the replay on TV, I still don't think they made the right call. This was easily one of the those plays where the evidence was not conclusive enough to overturn the call on the field. No way did the reply conclusively show that he stepped out and they sure were quick to make the decision.
 

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Thank god the cards won that game, because between this call and the non-fumbles at the 20 and in the endzone it would be the finger pointing and excuse hollering around here would be unbearable.
 
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Thank god the cards won that game, because between this call and the non-fumbles at the 20 and in the endzone it would be the finger pointing and excuse hollering around here would be unbearable.

This was a watch a lot of football weekend for me and I have to say I'm amazed at how bad the officiating was in games I saw. Look at the OU and Texas game on Saturday one bad call after another in the first half of that game. Our game several others.

Continues to astound me how often with replay they still get the wrong call.

I read the paper today that the 49ers reporters are all blasting Mike Nolan for 2 challenges he did yesterday that were both obviously not going to be upheld, and one he did NOT do that would have been overturned. Nolan's defense is by the time they saw the replay that showed them they should have challenged, it was too late.
 

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I thought the outside of his toe touched the ground before he came down on the line - which should have given him a TD. It was a tough call so I don't blame the refs for that one. This was a very tough game to call and they did make several mistakes.

I'm not sure if you taped the game but go back and check
 

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The fact that we won should not excuse the ref's for how bad the calls in this game were. The non-fumble call may not have been in the same time/situation as the one in the Broncos/Chargers game, but it was just as bad. The ref's made this game a lot closer than it should have been. Because we won, the slate has been wiped clean with regard to the officiating and to me that is a shame.
 

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here is why I had a problem with the reversal --

from both TV angles -- you cant tell conclusively if Fitz's foot is right inside inbounds territory, or touches out of bounds territory--

yet on from the live play -- there was the back judge, stationed at the corner of the endzone, ten feet away from the play, looking right down the line at the play ----

and he concluded that Fitz's foot was in bounds.

You cant tell me the video feed was conclusive evidence that his foot was out of bounds.
 

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The fact that it had to be conclusive to overturn bugs me, because every replay I saw both in the stadium and at home watching it later, I can't see it as "conclusive." Play should have stood, IMO.
 

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The fact that it had to be conclusive to overturn bugs me, because every replay I saw both in the stadium and at home watching it later, I can't see it as "conclusive." Play should have stood, IMO.

Exactly! If it's not conclusive you must acquit. Wait that's something else. :)
 

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Here is a picture of Jerry Jones after the review was overturned. Something seems off to me.
 

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what nobody has mentioned ---

far, far, far worse was the "forward momentum was stopped" call on Dockett's sack on Romo on the 1st quarter that nullified a fumble.

Replays clearly showed that the ball came out fractions of a second after Dockett hit him -- yet it couldnt be challenged-- i.e. the infamous Ed Hochuli inadvertent whistle call

horrendous.
 

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That picture shows what I saw perfectly.

His toe came down in bounds then when his whole foot came down it touched the sideline.

I don't know how they overturned the call on the field but whatever.
It wasn't the worst call of the day by any means.
 

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what nobody has mentioned ---

far, far, far worse was the "forward momentum was stopped" call on Dockett's sack on Romo on the 1st quarter that nullified a fumble.

Replays clearly showed that the ball came out fractions of a second after Dockett hit him -- yet it couldnt be challenged-- i.e. the infamous Ed Hochuli inadvertent whistle call

horrendous.

This call was so incredibly bad, these clowns should be forced to retire on this one alone. Completely inexcusable. And with the Hochuli stuff in the forefront these days, to make a call this bad, if you still don't get it now, you really need to hang it up. I guess if you are going to screw up this bad, do it early in the game and make sure its against a team like the Cardinals and not against the Cowboys, and no one will say much about it. Especially including the nitwit retired Cowboy commentator.
 

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I guess if you are going to screw up this bad, do it early in the game and make sure its against a team like the Cardinals and not against the Cowboys, and no one will say much about it. Especially including the nitwit retired Cowboy commentator.

Actually Aikman in the booth was dumbfounded on how the Cards weren't getting the ball. They said in the booth they were trying to get confirmation on how the refs had somehow let the cowboys keep the ball.
 

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What was even more idiotic is that on the replay as they slowed it down his foot turned fuzzy at the exact moment of impact.

Now I pay a lot of money for HD, the broadcast was in HD and yet that replay on tv looked like the old moon landings for picture quality.

Yeah whatever.
 

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What was even more idiotic is that on the replay as they slowed it down his foot turned fuzzy at the exact moment of impact.

Now I pay a lot of money for HD, the broadcast was in HD and yet that replay on tv looked like the old moon landings for picture quality.

Yeah whatever.

Watch any game, the live feed is HD, the replay is NEVER HD.. I brought this up years ago, and still don't have an answer for it.
 

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On radio Calvisi said he was standing next to a cameraman who'd got the entire play on digital camera. THe guy showed him a shot where he can zoom in on the pic that showed Fitz had both feet inbounds. Didn't matter we scored but you have to wonder with all the technology available today how come the tv replay wasn't clear enough to show that?

From the replay on tv I think the ref made the right call, but from what Calvisi said this guys shot was 100% conclusive it was a TD.

If you're going to use technology, use the best?

Russ from all the pictures I saw it looked incredibly close and based on what I saw I thought his foot touched the line. I am sure there are some zoom shots they could confirm what the truth was but from what the official saw (if it was what I saw) I would have called him out and I am a biased Cards fan. As you say we scored anyway and that was even better and pumped up our team even more.
 

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his toe came in bounds, but when he planted his heel, it was out of bounds... i dont know the rulling on "two feet"
 

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Actually Aikman in the booth was dumbfounded on how the Cards weren't getting the ball. They said in the booth they were trying to get confirmation on how the refs had somehow let the cowboys keep the ball.

I wouldn't say he was dumbfounded. When you watch the play as it unfolds, it is absolutely a textbook sack, stripped ball situation and neither announcer makes any comment at all about it. Nothing is said until they show Whiz putting his flag back in his pocket after the refs told him he was screwed. At that point Troy admits it wasn't an incomplete pass (astute) and it should have been ruled a fumble. Then they drive on as though nothing happened. I don't expect much of Troy so I wasn't let down by him, but to me, this was an obvious and horrendous call. By itself it was a worse call than the Denver-San Diego thing although not game determining. I don't believe if the same call had been made against the Cowboys there would have been so little attention given. The tuck and the Fitz touchdown, there are arguments to be made either way, but this play was pure ass-hattery. I'm embarrassed for this officiating crew.
 
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I thought it was a pretty clear case of there not being indisputable visual evidence. Thankfully, the Cards scored again, and it wasn't meaningful.

Sometimes I'm not sure that the refs are all that clear on the concept that a guy's entire foot doesn't have to come down in bounds if the first part of it that hits does come down in bounds. I think it was Super Bowl XXVI where a Redskins receiver had a TD overturned by replay when his heel came down in bounds, then the rest of the foot came down with part of it out of bounds. The rest of the foot shouldn't have mattered since the heel came down in bounds first, but yay replay.
 

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