Rose Bowl - Illinois vs USC

[Dback Jon]

Grandaddy of the all!!

 

[Nasser22]

14-0 USC early. No surprise so far besides Illinois' kicker missing that field goal.

 

[Dback Jon]

2 play 89 yard drive for the Illini - 21-10

 

[mjb21aztd]

aww man huge fumble mistake for illin then usc marches right down and scores . Score is now 28-10 usc 3rd qtr really game is over

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

ouch 42-10 and not even that close. Looks like the prognosticators were correct. I was hoping Illinois would beat them!

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Hey Jon...

What's your thought on Mike Locksley? He was interviewed by WVU to become their next head coach and the black coaches association is backing hm for a position. I cant say I know that much about him except they run a hybrid spread. How is his playcalling?

 

[Dback Jon]

Hey Jon...

What's your thought on Mike Locksley? He was interviewed by WVU to become their next head coach and the black coaches association is backing hm for a position. I cant say I know that much about him except they run a hybrid spread. How is his playcalling?

You can't have him....

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

You can't have him....

I dont honestly think they want him, but he has been interviewed and some folks are backing him. No other thoughts?

Doesnt look like he goes down field much or pass other than bubble screens.

 

[Renz]

Another Rose Bowl beatdown for the Big 10.

 

[Dback Jon]

I dont honestly think they want him, but he has been interviewed and some folks are backing him. No other thoughts?

Doesnt look like he goes down field much or pass other than bubble screens.

He is a good OC, probably needs another couple of years of coordinator experience to be truly ready for a prime job like WVU.

 

[Dback Jon]

Another Rose Bowl beatdown for the Big 10.

Talk to me whenever Arizona gets there....

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

You can't have him....

Kinda my thinking too. I like the offense he runs with Juice. Pat White wouldbe great in it as well.

 

[Nasser22]

Talk to me whenever Arizona gets there....

They probably would if they were in the Big 10.

 

[Renz]

It's a shame the Rose Bowl didn't choose Missouri. They might have at least given SC a game.

 

[Southpaw]

The Zooker needs to recruit a QB.

 

[Russ Smith]

Now anybody that watches that game and doesn't see how much talent USC has please speak up. That they somehow managed to lose to stanford largely due to offensive injuries is just mind boggling, their 2nd team defensive guys would all start at Stanford.

The magnitude of that upset just never ceases to amaze me.

 

[Southpaw]

Now anybody that watches that game and doesn't see how much talent USC has please speak up. That they somehow managed to lose to stanford largely due to offensive injuries is just mind boggling, their 2nd team defensive guys would all start at Stanford.

The magnitude of that upset just never ceases to amaze me.

Russ you are falling into the Big 10 trap. Watching USC beat on Iliinois does not automatically crown USC as the greatest team, by far. Illinois is a few more recruiting classes away from being elite, if everything goes well during that process.

I put USC in there with Oklahoma, LSU, Georgia, Oregon, Va Tech as the elite teams , but not the greatest.

 

[Russ Smith]

Russ you are falling into the Big 10 trap. Watching USC beat on Iliinois does not automatically crown USC as the greatest team, by far. Illinois is a few more recruiting classes away from being elite, if everything goes well during that process.

I put USC in there with Oklahoma, LSU, Georgia, Oregon, Va Tech as the elite teams , but not the greatest.

Oh I realize that Illinois isn't that good I just still can't believe that USC team managed to lose to Stanford. they're starting the USC was the best team I saw in the last month talk and they were awfully impressive but everytime I start thinking they have a point that USC could play with TOSU or LSU, I remember watching Stanford beat them, and the thought vanishes.

I think the App State beating Michigan game sort of ruined the upset value for Stanford and USC, people just said it's a crazy year and forgot that USC was like a 40 point favorite.

FWIW, Scott Wolf says USC was also a bit "fortunate" in respect to timing of the game and release of grades. He had been reporting leading up to the game there was a chance of several key USC players not being eligible, it turned out because of timing the grades don't get released until I think January 14th and he's implied there are going to be several guys who will be ineligible then but will have the whole 2nd semester and summer to get reinstated for next year.

 

[Southpaw]

Oh I realize that Illinois isn't that good I just still can't believe that USC team managed to lose to Stanford. they're starting the USC was the best team I saw in the last month talk and they were awfully impressive but everytime I start thinking they have a point that USC could play with TOSU or LSU, I remember watching Stanford beat them, and the thought vanishes.

I think the App State beating Michigan game sort of ruined the upset value for Stanford and USC, people just said it's a crazy year and forgot that USC was like a 40 point favorite.

Hold off on anointing OSU ( Buckeyes ).

 

[Russ Smith]

Hold off on anointing OSU ( Buckeyes ).

I expect LSU to win easily. I just hear a mounting campaign that USC got shafted in their bowl matchup and I think people saying that need to go back and watch the Stanford game and then remember Stanford got hammered by UCLA, ASU, Oregon etc all early in the year when Stanford had their starting QB, and they beat USC, in LA, without their starting QB.

I continue to think it's the biggest upset in college football in my lifetime.

 

[Rivercard]

FWIW, Scott Wolf says USC was also a bit "fortunate" in respect to timing of the game and release of grades. He had been reporting leading up to the game there was a chance of several key USC players not being eligible, it turned out because of timing the grades don't get released until I think January 14th and he's implied there are going to be several guys who will be ineligible then but will have the whole 2nd semester and summer to get reinstated for next year.

Gee, how convenient. And whatever happened to the Bush investigation? Nothing I guess. I get the feeling if that happened at Tulsa or New Mexico there would already be sanctions and virtual beheadings by the NCAA.

 

[Russ Smith]

Gee, how convenient. And whatever happened to the Bush investigation? Nothing I guess. I get the feeling if that happened at Tulsa or New Mexico there would already be sanctions and virtual beheadings by the NCAA.

To be fair it's a rumor until it happens, and since it won't be during football season if it does happen we'll probably never know.

But USC's academic calendar is preset, they didn't set this up after they knew what bowl game they were in. They've been talking about it on USC boards for awhile because everyone was saying Wolf was a negative nelly for bringing it up since because of the schedule anybody that was in trouble wouldn't be ruled on until after the game anyways.

Here's the actual blurb from Wolf that explains why grades weren't final.

"Eligibility Check
USC coach Pete Carroll said every player would be eligible for the Rose Bowl.
That does not mean there are no academic issues. Because the spring semester starts a week later than normal (Jan. 14), grades will not be processed until after the Rose Bowl."

http://www.insidesocal.com/usc/

in a Q and A session earlier he had said there were 5-6 players that were in danger of being ineligible but he never named any of them.

I don't think this is a case of USC doing anything wrong they just sort of lucked out on the dates.

 

[Rivercard]

I don't think this is a case of USC doing anything wrong they just sort of lucked out on the dates.

Yeah, I would assume that is probably the case with all schools since we don't hear much about academic ineligibility for bowl games. Do all schools release grades the 2nd week of January? That's nice for the football players but sucks for the guys playing hoops.

 

[Russ Smith]

Yeah, I would assume that is probably the case with all schools since we don't hear much about academic ineligibility for bowl games. Do all schools release grades the 2nd week of January? That's nice for the football players but sucks for the guys playing hoops.

Actually it's pretty common for guys to be ineligible in bowl games, seems to happen a few times every year. Depends on what system they're on academically semester, quarter etc.

Stanford's 2nd semester started a few weeks ago thus they got Brook Lopez back in basketball for example.

 

[Gee!]

Gee, how convenient. And whatever happened to the Bush investigation? Nothing I guess. I get the feeling if that happened at Tulsa or New Mexico there would already be sanctions and virtual beheadings by the NCAA.

How did I get pulled in this convo?

And btw, USC is a football machine.. Its scary watching them.. And knowing they give my Wildcats the biggest challenge next year..