Rule V draft

[Kolo]

I understand we get the first pick. Anybody know who was left unprotected who might be a good pick-up?

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

There's probably a list somehwere on Baseball America but I don't have a subscription for it. Maybe someone else does. I wouldn't get my hopes up considering how poorly our minor league scouting department has performed over the last couple years.

 

[boondockdrunk]

I dunno if there are any good pick-ups... but since we are low on cash we usually just forfeit our pick.

 

[AZZenny]

I have a BA subscription, but can't locate a list, which is driving me nuts. I'm going to look again later. It's only $50,000 to pick up a Rule V guy, but you have to tie up a roster spot the whole season or else trade or return the guy, which is why Rule V is overrated in terms of grabbing prospects, and many teams simply pass.

What did you have in mind saying our minor league scouting was poor? Major League scouting, I agree, but other than internal overly-rosy glasses, where have we made bad minor leaguer acquisitions?

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

Theres a list of protected players now on BAs main page (unfortunately not one of Rule Vers). And the Diamondbacks did only put 39 on their list, so they may decide to draft somebody with their pick.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

What did you have in mind saying our minor league scouting was poor? Major League scouting, I agree, but other than internal overly-rosy glasses, where have we made bad minor leaguer acquisitions?

I was referring to the Schilling trade and the OF we picked up who hit exactly zero HRs and stole eight bases in A and AA ball last year. Or Bill Murphy, who still hasn't figured out how to throw the ball over the plate and its anyone's guess if he ever will. The two Dodger acquisitions, Abercrombie and Milons, have shown no ability to hit the ball either. What these five have in common is that they're all "old school" prospects in that they have a lot of tools, but have not produced, which is the most important thing. In my opinion, this is bad scouting.

 

[Brandon_Webb]

Does Abercrombie have a walk this season?

 

[boondockdrunk]

ANDY SISCO was left off the Cubs roster... we should take him. He is a lefty with a bunch of potential and is 6'9''. He had a bad year last year, but his track record is that he can be an ace.

 

[AZZenny]

OK, can't really argue. I was thinking Koyie Hill looks promising, wasn't ready to write of Billy Murphy yet, and Noochie Varner was sort of interesting.

Wonder who does that level of scouting - I think of our June Draft scouts as pretty darn good, and our Major League scouts as pisspoor. But, then, I generally figure anytime JoeBlows gets into the act, as in trades, we're scrooed.

 

[AZZenny]

Rule V prospects Thanks to SchillingFan for tracking this down. We left both Corey Myers and Jesus Cota open. Cota I can understand; leaving Myers is still a puzzler to me. Why protect Jerry Gil, who hasn't a prayer of sticking in the majors, and not Corey Myers?

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Why protect Jerry Gil, who hasn't a prayer of sticking in the majors, and not Corey Myers?[/COLOR]

Good question. Even if Gil was juiced up, he still wouldn't be able to hit major league pitching if they were throwing basketballs. I guess they'll keep him around for defensive purposes. Speaking of shortstops, what's the story with Drew? I read somewhere that if he ever signs he may get to the bigs as soon as his rookie year like his brother did.

I still insist that the importance of signing Drew is very underrated and seems to be on the backburner not only of upper mangement, who seem to be spending too much time on a lost cause in Richie Sexson and courting mediocre players. But also of local media and fans who should realize that we have the opportunity to obtain the best position player in the draft and is a kid who could contribute sooner rather than later.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

Rule V prospects Thanks to SchillingFan for tracking this down. We left both Corey Myers and Jesus Cota open. Cota I can understand; leaving Myers is still a puzzler to me. Why protect Jerry Gil, who hasn't a prayer of sticking in the majors, and not Corey Myers?

That doesnt make much sense to me either, the only reason I can think of is that otherwise they would have only one SS on the 40 man roster, and I dont think the organization is too big on Cintron. Id personally rather protect Myers though.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Apparently we have a full roster so barring anything unforeseen, we won't be taking anyone today.

 

[Kolo]

per BA, we selected Angel Garcia, 21 year old RH pitcher, then traded his rights to the Devil Rays for $150,000.

 

[Mulli]

per BA, we selected Angel Garcia, 21 year old RH pitcher, then traded his rights to the Devil Rays for $150,000.

Great.

 

[Arby]

Arizona did pick Angel Garcia, but it was just a rumor that they'd sell him to Tampa. While it very well may happen, I haven't seen anything official on it yet.

 

[Mulli]

Arizona did pick Angel Garcia, but it was just a rumor that they'd sell him to Tampa. While it very well may happen, I haven't seen anything official on it yet.

Do you have any information of him?

 

[Arby]

On Garcia from BA

Garcia, 21, was a fourth-round pick in 2001 out of Puerto Rico. A 6-foot-7 righty, Garcia was in extended spring training until June, coming off Sept. 2003 Tommy John surgery. He pitched in just seven games for Quad Cities (Low A) late in the season, and was pitching for Mantei in his native Puerto Rico this winter, where he has a 1-1, 4.76 record in seven games. According to reports, Garcia is like many TJ pitchers early in the recovery process--the velocity is there, the command lags behind. He was reported to be throwing in the low 90s and touching 95 mph with his fastball and had shown a good changeup in winter ball. They're shutting us up, the draft is about to begin.

 

[Kolo]

Rotoworld is reporting that Garcia has been traded to the Devil Rays, but they haven't provided a link.

 

[Kolo]

Rotoworld now reports Garcia was traded to the Devil Rays for catcher Kevin Cash:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7001


If his slugging percentage (.309) was actually his batting average, I'd be somewhat impressed. But it's not.

 

[AZZenny]

I am just not getting something. We have Koyie Hill, Chris Snyder, Corey Myers (I think he's still ours), Hammock, Phil Avlas, and errrr...Stinnett. Jesus. Why do we need Kevin Cash? Oh wait! GM heard "Cash" and jumped to conclusions!

10 walks, 59 Ks, in 2004. Omigod. This is psychotic.

 

[KingLouieLouie]

I am just not getting something. We have Koyie Hill, Chris Snyder, Corey Myers (I think he's still ours), Hammock, Phil Avlas, and errrr...Stinnett. Jesus. Why do we need Kevin Cash? Oh wait! GM heard "Cash" and jumped to conclusions!

10 walks, 59 Ks, in 2004. Omigod. This is psychotic.

I don't believe that report is accurate:

http://arizona.diamondbacks.mlb.com...213&content_id=922090&vkey=news_ari&fext=.jsp

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12/13/2004 4:50 PM ET
D-Backs richer after Rule 5 Draft
Arizona picks up cash, unloads pitcher in draft
By Steve Gilbert / MLB.com

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ANAHEIM -- After days of spending money, the Diamondbacks picked up a little dough in Monday's Rule 5 Draft. By virtue of having the worst record in baseball, the D-Backs had the first pick in the draft and they selected right-handed pitcher Angel Garcia from the Twins and traded him to the Devil Rays for cash considerations.

"A number of clubs approached us over the weekend," Arizona general manager Joe Garagiola Jr. said. "Once we determined that there was no player that we wanted to take for our own account, then this made a lot of sense. It was a good situation for us and for [Tampa]."

The D-Backs also received $12,000 when the Washington Nationals selected outfielder Cedric Brooks from the Arizona organization in the minor league phase of the draft.

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With newly signed pitcher Russ Ortiz having to be added to the 40-man roster Sunday, the Diamondbacks designated left-hander Shane Nance for assignment.

In order to be eligible to participate in the draft Monday, Arizona had to pair its roster down to 39, which it did by releasing right-hander Andrew Good.

There is still more roster maneuvering on the horizon as Arizona will have to make room for infielders Royce Clayton and Craig Counsell. Those moves are expected to be announced as soon as Tuesday.

Steve Gilbert is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs

I don't believe they would add another catcher to their 40-man roster when they're trying to figure out which players to remove from it.....

 

[AZZenny]

LOL- seems like everyone ELSE heard Cash and jumped the gun. Baseball America says we sold the pitcher to the DRays for $100,000. AND - no one picked Corey Myers. That's good. I still think he could sneak into the infield mix after the AZ Fall League numbers he had.

 

[Phill11]

This guy would be a steal:

Ben Fritz - RHP Athletics - Age 24 - 10 percent

2002 first-round pick could be stashed away on 60-day DL as he recovers from Tommy John surgery.


Of course, he's injured though. But he'll be an awesome 2-3 starter in 2-3 years.