Ruling needed

[Don Quixote]

Greetings, residents of Arizona. Lifelong Spurs fan currently living in New Orleans. The natives send their greetings.

I have a situation that I need a ruling on. I asked for something similar from Spurs fans awhile ago, but I want the Suns-fan (non-troll) perspective. First of all, I will state that I have no problem with Arizona citizens rooting on their Suns, D-backs, and alleged football-like product. The team represents your community and you should wear their colors with pride. Even though I hate the Lakers most of all, I am fine with Californians rooting them on. What's the point of a team without fans?

This touches on some of the reasons why we ought to root for any team. As far as I can tell, there are 3: (1) They're your hometown team. I grew up in S.A., ergo, I am a 4-time Champion Spurs fan.

(2) They're consistent winners. I can understand a non-Chicagoan being a Bulls fan during the Jordan era, etc. On the other hand, it makes absolutely no sense for a Texan to root for, say, the Arizona Cardinals, because we are not from Az. and the Cards don't win.

(3) The only other reason to root for a team would be some sort of personal connection (i.e., you happen to know, or like, someone on that team). The only reason I care about the Cards is because they have Kurt Warner. If they were to cut Warner, I'd ditch that worthless franchise tomorrow.

Now, to my point ...

I grew up in San Antonio ... will always love my Spurs. I always got annoyed with Lakers fans there who had never been to L.A. Why would they root for them? Anyway, my brother-in-law, a former lifelong Spurs fan who, like me, is formS.A., converted to being a Suns fan last winter, despite (a) never having set foot in Arizona, ever, (b) the Spurs being a consistent winner, and (c) their being good guys off the court. I'd say my brother-in-law picked the wrong time to get off the bandwagon!

He said the Spurs were "old and boring." I wonder where he arrived at that fresh, cutting-edge, original opinion. He said the Suns' style of play was pleasing to eye, beautiful to behold, etc. And I agree. They're nice to watch. However ...

Is he going to dump my sister when she gets old and boring? Just because you happen to admire another team (or woman), it doesn't mean you're going to jump into bed with it (her), does it? How should I treat this obvious sports adulterer?

And ... would Suns fan even want such a "fan"? The Spurs fans said good riddance.

Discuss?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Some of these ideas have been talked about here.

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=91356

 

[carey]

Some of you folks take sports way to seriously. Sports should be a pleasant distraction from the day to day grind. If your brother-in-law has fun watching the Suns, please let him and don't give him crap about it.

 

[Don Quixote]

But it's not a matter of him "liking" to watch the Suns. We all like to watch the Suns. They're fun, and a welcome distraction from life, winning championships, etc. I generally tune in when they're on. It's not about being friendly towards a team.

What I'm talking about is this: for no discernible reason, my knucklehead brother-in-law took the Spurs bumper sticker off his car, no longer wears Spurs apparel, didn't renew his season tickets (after they won in 05!), and has replaced it all with Suns merch (except the tix, we don't like anywhere near Phx.), and professes that his team is now the Suns.

Now ... we would expect this from a small child, but not a grown man. Did all the winning get old? Did he start believing the talking heads in the sports media? Did Tony Parker stop answering his letters?

So my question stands ...(1) how would you treat this blatant sports adultery, and (2) would you welcome such a "fan" into your ranks?

 

[Don Quixote]

He's not a dumb person, kind of a knucklehead. He's given to conspiracy theories ... Bush blew up the Towers, Skull & Bones, Illuminati, etc.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

Seems like he made the right decision to me.

Maybe he grew tired of rooting for a boring team out of obligation?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I generally believe you should support your home town team.

 

[Don Quixote]

I generally believe you should support your home town team.

Yes, generally. I'd say he picked the wrong time to get off the Spurs bandwagon, though.

 

[dodie53]

i haven't set foot on Arizona and i'm a suns fan!
=)

 

[elindholm]

As a friend of mine once said, you can't choose who you love. There's no "should" about it. If your brother-in-law fell out of love with the Spurs, so be it. It looks like it's his loss, at least for the time being, but I think the Spurs will survive.

 

[Don Quixote]

I guess.

But how would you all, as lifelong Suns fans, react to another lifelong Suns fan trading it all in, for say, Spurs gear? Let us, just suppose for a moment, that team-oriented, moderately flashy basketball came into vogue, and S.A. became ESPN's flavor of the week. (The analogy is not perfect because we have actually won something, but still.) Would that not in effect be saying, I got owned?

How would Suns fan handle it?

 

[dodie53]

But it's not a matter of him "liking" to watch the Suns. We all like to watch the Suns. They're fun, and a welcome distraction from life, winning championships, etc. I generally tune in when they're on. It's not about being friendly towards a team.

you getting tired of the spurs winning championships*?

maybe that's what happened to your brother-in-law..

 

[Don Quixote]

no way jose!

you getting tired of the spurs winning championships*?

maybe that's what happened to your brother-in-law..

Let me tell you, brother, from someone who's been there ...

Winning championships never gets old. It gets sweeter.

 

[dodie53]

He's not a dumb person, kind of a knucklehead. He's given to conspiracy theories ... Bush blew up the Towers, Skull & Bones, Illuminati, etc.

maybe your brother-in-law knows the conspiracy involving
stern and the spurs vs the suns?
=)

 

[elindholm]

I guess.

But how would you all, as lifelong Suns fans, react to another lifelong Suns fan trading it all in, for say, Spurs gear?

It would make no difference to me whatsoever. I couldn't care less about who else is or is not a Suns fan.

By the way, it took you a few posts to warm up, but you are obviously a troll and I have put you on Ignore. Goodbye.

 

[Don Quixote]

You just need to let it go ...

 

[Covert Rain]

It would make no difference to me whatsoever. I couldn't care less about who else is or is not a Suns fan.

By the way, it took you a few posts to warm up, but you are obviously a troll and I have put you on Ignore. Goodbye.

I added him to ignore as well.

 

[boisesuns]

I guess.

But how would you all, as lifelong Suns fans, react to another lifelong Suns fan trading it all in, for say, Spurs gear?

There's a thread where I beleive this is happening as we speak....

 

[Don Quixote]

This is even better than I thought!

Look, I don't really want to be a "troll," but you guys can't get all mad and sensitive whenever someone here expresses their opinion or roots for the Spurs. And I think you guys are way more interesting right now than the Spurs boards.

 

[boisesuns]

Ok here's an opinion: I think the Spurs are dirty and get away with a lot of cheap shots, flops and questionable calls. I think they for some reason get special treatment becuase stern likes mimes (Duncan) and obviously supports the acting community with Ginobili's flops and Parkers love life.

Bowen is great at pulling jerseys and shoving...

 

[Don Quixote]

Okay, this is good .... so tell me your feelings about San Antonio winning in the semis and the Finals.

 

[boisesuns]

Okay, this is good .... so tell me your feelings about San Antonio winning in the semis and the Finals.

I think they played well enough to get it done. The finals were unwatchable, and they beat an average Cavs team. Congrats on all the rings though, the Spurs obviously have a great organization, or they wouldn't have won 4 titles in the last few years.

 

[Don Quixote]

I think Phoenix would have throttled Cleveland, 5 games tops. And I'm all for a system where the best teams meet in the end, regardless of conference, because Cleveland belonged no where near a Finals. Spurs-Suns would have made a great Finals matchup, but I can only imagine the crying that would ensue after that one!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

you're a real class act.

if i were your bro-in-law i'd abandon all things related to you too. i support his decision.

go away. you've offered nothing.

 

[devilalum]

(2) They're consistent winners. I can understand a non-Chicagoan being a Bulls fan during the Jordan era, etc. On the other hand, it makes absolutely no sense for a Texan to root for, say, the Arizona Cardinals, because we are not from Az. and the Cards don't win.

This is WRONG! Only losers root for a team they have no reasonable connection with just because they are winning.

In my best cave man voice:

"I'm a big loser but nobody will notice if I wear this Spurs championship Beefy T. People will think I am also a winner."