Seahawks may lose a 2nd round pick

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Per http://www.rotoworld.com/


ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports the Seahawks could be docked a second-round pick for failing to disclose Richard Sherman's MCL injury.

Yikes. Coach Pete Carroll has to be regretting trying to explain away Sherman's (slightly) down 2016 right about now. What the Seahawks did is blatantly against the rules, but a second-rounder would be an extraordinarily severe punishment. The Seahawks are no strangers to pushing boundaries, but there's not a team in the league that doesn't play injury report games. The Seahawks are already missing a 2017 fifth-rounder for illegal offseason practice activity.
 

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Chris Mortensen‏ @mortreport
The @Seahawks are cooperating with league, contending Sherman not missing a snap should be strongly considered on their behalf

I don't think they will lose draft picks. To be clear the reason I think he stated a 2nd could be lost is because this would be the 4th infraction the Seahawks have been penalized for (3 times for OTA's) Although I view this as unrelated, but should still have some weighting. I would love to see them lose a draft pick, but I believe it will be a fine. Paragraph two in reference to the tweet above should explain why that shouldn't matter.

http://operations.nfl.com/media/2235/06-07-16-2016-injury-report-policy.pdf
http://operations.nfl.com/media/2235/06-07-16-2016-injury-report-policy.pdf
Some key notes from the rules itself:
1. If a question arises as to why a player did not participate in a game, or why a player’s in-game injury was not reported in a timely manner, the club may be asked to submit a written explanation within 48 hours. If an investigation is opened, the club may be required to submit to the league office player medical records including, but not limited to, physician’s treatment records, athletic trainer’s notes and relevant diagnostic reports. Additionally, video footage of the practices in question may be requested to verify the player’s level of participation

2.
The Practice Report is expected to provide clubs and the public an accurate description of a player’s injury status and his level of participation during the practice week. All players who have significant or noteworthy injuries must be listed on the Practice Report, even if the player takes all the reps in practice, and even if the team is certain that he will play in the upcoming game. This is especially true of key players and those players whose injuries have been covered extensively by the media.

Significant or noteworthy injuries include, but are not limited to, injuries that cause the player to miss a game or prevent the player from finishing a game. If a player has multiple significant or noteworthy injuries, all such injuries must be reported.

A player who (A) misses a game due to injury, or (B) does not finish a game due to injury, or (C) suffers a significant or noteworthy injury without missing or failing to finish a game must be included on the Practice Report each day of the following week (i.e. for a Sunday game, he must be listed on the Practice Report on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday). If a team has a bye the following week, the player must be listed on the Practice Report in the week preceding the team’s next game.

"You don't know that he dealt with a significant knee the whole second half of the season and it was stressful for him to try to get out there,"

Pete calls it significant, and states it was for half the season. Therefore rules were broken. I would love for them to be docked a pick, but if I was non-biased a fine would seem fair.
 
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I dont understand the problem. What do they mean "disclose the injury"?

Im pretty certain every player on every NFL team plays the entire season with a tweeked something. That goes for every player in every sport. They say youre never 100% healthy. that doesnt mean you have to report all of them. There isnt enough ink and paper available. "Hey coach, I broke a nail. Be sure to tell the league office".

I understand if this was a concussion, thats different. But a bad knee? Who doesnt play with a bad knee?

Jordy Nelson is about to play this sunday with broken ribs. NFL is funny
 

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I dont understand the problem. What do they mean "disclose the injury"?

Im pretty certain every player on every NFL team plays the entire season with a tweeked something. That goes for every player in every sport. They say youre never 100% healthy. that doesnt mean you have to report all of them. There isnt enough ink and paper available. "Hey coach, I broke a nail. Be sure to tell the league office".

I understand if this was a concussion, thats different. But a bad knee? Who doesnt play with a bad knee?

Jordy Nelson is about to play this sunday with broken ribs. NFL is funny

He can play with whatever injury and pain his body can withstand, but the league (and Vegas) needs to be notified.
 

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He can play with whatever injury and pain his body can withstand, but the league (and Vegas) needs to be notified.

like I said does "Hey coach, I broke a nail" qualify?

Theres a enormous lack of specification. I twisted an ankle, I bit my lip. Whos to say which is more serious?
 

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yes, whether he played or not is not the issue. If he was limited, then opposing coaches game plan for that. That is the whole point of the injury report.


Cheathawks strike again.
 

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Patriots are smart. They list everyone on their injury report until they run out of ink. That is legal. Pete self incriminated.
 

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opposing coaches game plan for that. That is the whole point of the injury report.

Thats how its strategically used by opponents, but thats not the purpose of the report.

The purpose is to prevent Billy Ray situations (Varsity Blues) where coaches twist players arms to play hurt (unless you wanna find a new job boy), thus leading to more serious injuries.

I understand it. Its suppose to protect players. But Im having a hard time understanding the discrepancy between what makes the report, and what doesnt. Im obviously anti-seahawks, but im also not so much of a homer where ill celebrate what I perceive to be an injustice. So Sherman played the season with a hurt knee. What player in the NFL doesnt play the season with hurt knees? All of them do to some extent.
 

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I see it as the Seahawks were trying to prevent other teams from knowing that Sherman had a weakness to one side. If he couldn't cut left without pain then teams would game plan to attack him that way. It's Sherman's choice to play through it, but it's the league rule that it must be reported.
 

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They will lose *at least* a 2nd. Talk now is they may still lose their 5th along with the 2nd. NFL is NOT happy about Cheat Carroll pulling crap like this again, even if it's only through sheer ignorance.
 

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Why is there an injury report in the first place? It's mostly BS so just get rid of it.
Vegas baby, it's all about gambling. They can day this out they can day that but some people only watch games they bet on and makes people watch all those terrible Thursday night games.
 
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Pete was trying to stick up for his guy who was getting beat like a Cherokee Drum in the playoff game. I don't think they should be docked a pick when the whole injury report is sham to begin with.
 

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Rules are rules. Dock 'em, especially Carroll.☺ and the Seahawks.
If you don't want the rules or the laws, you change them, you don't break them, and if you do and get caught, then pay the consequences. And I'm a believer in making it hurt when done purposely.
 

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