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Cards lose RB to shoulder injury

Odeen Domingo
The Arizona Republic
Aug. 30, 2005 12:00 AM

It was supposed to be a "four-week injury," as Cardinals coach Dennis Green put it.

But now, J.R. Redmond's shoulder injury that he suffered during last Friday's game at Oakland will keep him out for the season.

The Cardinals put Redmond and two others on injured reserve Monday and released six players in an effort to cut their roster down to 65 by the Aug. 31 deadline.



The team first thought Redmond suffered a dislocated shoulder, but it's now likely a separated shoulder.

His absence will make the biggest impact. In essence, he filled three roster spots.

Redmond made an impression once he signed in July. In training camp, he showed he has the potential to be the third-down back. And in preseason games, he landed the punt- and kickoff-return jobs.

Now the Cardinals must find players to replace him and be as effective.

"The guy who has been doing it, (Dan) Sheldon, was in a battle with Redmond for doing that (punt returning)," Green said. "We've got Charles Lee who has been doing kickoffs, we got Damien Anderson and we'll probably claim a guy."

Sheldon, a rookie free agent, said his mind-set hasn't changed. He's still going to work hard even though there is one less person to compete with.

"You never wish injury upon anybody," Sheldon said. "In this game, people need to step up. Right now, that's my job. I need to step up and take a few reps. I felt good throughout this camp, catching the ball. Get a little more comfortable in there and trust the guys in front of me.

"I feel like we've been competing the whole camp. Nothing to take away from J.R., but I think that's what made it better for the both of us. We were both competing hard and battling. Either one of us would have gone in there and done the job real well."

The Cardinals had James Jackson returning kickoffs last Friday after Redmond sat out. Jackson, who has started 16 games in four seasons, can now also challenge for the third-down running back spot.

"When they call me to go in, I go in. No pouting, no nothing," James said. "Whatever they want me to play, I'll play. I'm comfortable (playing on any down). Like I said, when they say '32 (James' number), go in,' I'm going to go in and make plays."

Center Bill Conaty (triceps) and defensive tackle Kenny King (wrist) were put on injured reserve with Redmond.

Conaty was supposed to add depth to a much depleted center position, which is down to its fourth player because of injuries. Conaty, signed in mid-August, injured his left triceps the day after he was named the starter and never had the chance to play.

King's injury is the most sentimental. He was out all of last season with the same injury on his right wrist. He had an operation in the off-season, but the wrist didn't fully heal. His playing career is now in question.

King was supposed to add depth to the defensive tackle position, backing up Darnell Dockett after the team released Wendell Bryant just before training camp began.

Of the six players cut, two have starting experience - safety Ifeanyi Ohalete and defensive end Peppi Zellner. Both were done in by other players who outperformed them during camp and preseason games.

"You know you're always going to have competition," Green said.

Linebacker Isaiah Ekejiuba, cornerback Rhett Nelson, offensive tackle Alan Reuber and defensive tackle Keith Wright were also cut.
Player profile

Ian Allen
Fifth-year offensive tackle from Purdue
Height/weight: 6-4/313.
Hometown: Atlanta.

Allen is yet another player on the Cardinals roster who wasn't drafted but worked his way into forming an NFL career. Allen originally signed with the Kansas City Chiefs after the 2001 draft. He spent time with the Falcons, Giants and Eagles before landing with the Cardinals this off-season. Allen, a backup offensive tackle, has some starting experience. He started 11 games with the Giants in 2003. Allen also started the first two preseason games this year because of Oliver Ross' knee injury. Allen has some interesting extracurricular activities. His hobby is building model cars. In high school, he was the president of the French Club, a member of the marching band, orchestra, yearbook staff and international traveler's club.

Allen Q&A

Q: Talk about your time as a starter in the first two preseason games?
A: "In the Dallas game, we didn't give any sacks. Second game against the Chiefs, they ran a lot of dogs and blitzes, but I thought as a whole we did pretty good. As far as my own personal performance, I thought pretty good as well."

Q: How do you like your role?
A: "Of course I'd like to be a starter in this league, but I just have to wait my turn. I started with the Giants and got a chance to play some with the Eagles. It's just a matter of waiting your turn and getting better at what you do. When my number's called, just get ready to play."

Q: What's with the goatee?
A: "It kind of varies, man. I go back and forth. One month I decide to go with a full beard. The next month I try to go with the goatee."

Q: Any reason for that?
A: "That's just me. That's my style. The Ian Allen style."
Day at practice
Only the first 30 minutes of practice, which is just stretching, is open to the media. So in the words of Cardinals coach Dennis Green, today's practice went well. Wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald and defensive tackle Darnell Dockett, both of whom were injured in Friday's game, practiced. Safeties Adrian Wilson and Robert Griffith, who were inactive for Friday's game, also practiced.

Eye opener

Wide receiver Anquan Boldin is keeping it loose in the locker room. He was laughing loud and even tried to make Jeremy Bridges laugh while Bridges was talking to Fox Sports Net about Hurricane Katrina hitting his hometown of McComb, Miss.

Quote of the day

"I'm the wrong guy to ask. I'm only doing seven-step drops out there." - Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner, on if the hot weather is difficult to adapt to during practice

Comings and goings

The Cardinals Monday released defensive end Peppi Zellner, safety Ifeanyi Ohalete, linebacker Isaiah Ekejiuba, cornerback Rhett Nelson, tackle Alan Reuber and defensive tackle Keith Wright. The team also placed running back J.R. Redmond, center Bill Conaty and defensive tackle Kenny King on injured reserve, ending their seasons.

Training room

C Alex Stepanovich (hand), LB Gerald Hayes (knee), C Nick Leckey (ankle), LB Lance Mitchell (ankle) and TE Bobby Blizzard (back) did not practice. SS Adrian Wilson (leg contusion) returned.

Coming up

The Cardinals will practice from 9-11 a.m. today and Wednesday in Tempe. Practices are closed to the media and public. - Odeen Domingo


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MJ had an interesting observation this morning.

He said that (although the Cards don't believe in this and haven't done so since Larry Centers) teams have the option of reaching an injury settlement with players (to pay them money while they're on IR) and can somehow manipulate the system so that those players can return to play later in the season.

Odds of this happening? Slim. (And maybe the League rules have changed since the days of LC). But it's interesting to contemplate.
 

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JeffGollin said:
MJ had an interesting observation this morning.

He said that (although the Cards don't believe in this and haven't done so since Larry Centers) teams have the option of reaching an injury settlement with players (to pay them money while they're on IR) and can somehow manipulate the system so that those players can return to play later in the season.

Odds of this happening? Slim. (And maybe the League rules have changed since the days of LC). But it's interesting to contemplate.

That would be strange. You'd have to reach an injury settlement and cut the player, he'd have to clear waivers, then you'd be able to sign him back to the active roster. That's gotta be the only way that could work. I wonder if that's against the current league rules.
 

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JeffGollin said:
MJ had an interesting observation this morning.

He said that (although the Cards don't believe in this and haven't done so since Larry Centers) teams have the option of reaching an injury settlement with players (to pay them money while they're on IR) and can somehow manipulate the system so that those players can return to play later in the season.

Odds of this happening? Slim. (And maybe the League rules have changed since the days of LC). But it's interesting to contemplate.

Actually, I think it was New England that did that with LC. I don't think the Cardinals have ever done it. I may have misunderstood, though.

I'm a big JR fan, but, honestly, he was great in game one, but made some big mistakes in the next two. Maybe the coaching staff isn't that sold on him.
 

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vince56 said:
That would be strange. You'd have to reach an injury settlement and cut the player, he'd have to clear waivers, then you'd be able to sign him back to the active roster. That's gotta be the only way that could work. I wonder if that's against the current league rules.

He doesnt have to clear waivers. Has more then 4 years in the league. Goes straight to free agency status.

And no it is not against league rules. It happens a couple times a year.
 

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Didn't it happen last year when Dexter Jackson was placed on IR and yet faced us later with Tampa Bay?


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jefftheshark said:
Didn't it happen last year when Dexter Jackson was placed on IR and yet faced us later with Tampa Bay?


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Thats not what we are talking about.

Jackson went to another team after getting an injury settlement and cut off of the IR.

What we are talking about with Redmond is we would do the same thing but then turn around and re-sign him again to play for us sometime during the season. It is a loop hole in getting a player on your IR to be able to play for you again in that season.
 
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