Seau nixes deal
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DieHardFromMO
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I don't have ESPN insider either but I found this in the San Diego paper:
Cap-happy Cardinals said talking about Seau trade
But Dolphins more closely fit his criteria
By Jim Trotter
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
April 3, 2003
Linebacker Junior Seau can't join another team until the Chargers trade or release him, but the 11-time Pro Bowler says he's not stressing because he controls his own destiny.
"No one wants to trade for a player that doesn't want to be there," Seau said earlier this week. " . . . No matter what, I'm going to have the final say."
The Arizona Cardinals might put his words to the test. They're an NFL-leading $17 million under the salary cap, and a source close to the situation said last night they have expressed interest in dealing for Seau – and assuming the $2.7 million guarantee the Chargers owe him on April 15 – but only if Seau is agreeable to joining them.
Such approval seems doubtful considering Seau has said he wants to play for a contender and the Cardinals have made only one playoff appearance in the past 20 years. Miami appears to be the more likely spot.
Seau has had multiple discussions with Dolphins coaches, and the organization meets his criteria in that it has good players, a grass field and excellent facilities. And the Dolphins play the Chargers in Qualcomm Stadium this year.
The Dolphins would like to acquire Seau as quickly as possible, but they're unwilling to assume the $2.7 million guarantee. A source close to the situation said Miami might be willing to surrender a late-round draft pick, but only if Seau agreed to a restructured contract ahead of time. He is to earn $3 million in base salary this fall and $13.5 million in salary and bonuses over the following two years.
"They're interested in me and I'm definitely interested in them," Seau said of the Dolphins. "Everyone is sitting back and waiting to see what the Chargers bite on."
Green Bay and Detroit also have contacted the Chargers, but Seau said no one from those organizations has spoken to him directly. The Chargers would take a salary-cap hit of slightly more than $1 million if they traded or released Seau before June 1. They could save just over $3 million against this year's cap if they waited until June, but next year he would count slightly more than $4 million against their cap.
Said Seau: "Everything's still at a standstill."
In other news, the Chargers have opened talks with the agent for free-agent kicker Steve Christie, who handled the team's field goal duties the past 11/2 seasons. Christie, a 14-year veteran, was 16-for-17 last season on attempts from 41 yards or closer but 2-for-9 from beyond 41.
Cap-happy Cardinals said talking about Seau trade
But Dolphins more closely fit his criteria
By Jim Trotter
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
April 3, 2003
Linebacker Junior Seau can't join another team until the Chargers trade or release him, but the 11-time Pro Bowler says he's not stressing because he controls his own destiny.
"No one wants to trade for a player that doesn't want to be there," Seau said earlier this week. " . . . No matter what, I'm going to have the final say."
The Arizona Cardinals might put his words to the test. They're an NFL-leading $17 million under the salary cap, and a source close to the situation said last night they have expressed interest in dealing for Seau – and assuming the $2.7 million guarantee the Chargers owe him on April 15 – but only if Seau is agreeable to joining them.
Such approval seems doubtful considering Seau has said he wants to play for a contender and the Cardinals have made only one playoff appearance in the past 20 years. Miami appears to be the more likely spot.
Seau has had multiple discussions with Dolphins coaches, and the organization meets his criteria in that it has good players, a grass field and excellent facilities. And the Dolphins play the Chargers in Qualcomm Stadium this year.
The Dolphins would like to acquire Seau as quickly as possible, but they're unwilling to assume the $2.7 million guarantee. A source close to the situation said Miami might be willing to surrender a late-round draft pick, but only if Seau agreed to a restructured contract ahead of time. He is to earn $3 million in base salary this fall and $13.5 million in salary and bonuses over the following two years.
"They're interested in me and I'm definitely interested in them," Seau said of the Dolphins. "Everyone is sitting back and waiting to see what the Chargers bite on."
Green Bay and Detroit also have contacted the Chargers, but Seau said no one from those organizations has spoken to him directly. The Chargers would take a salary-cap hit of slightly more than $1 million if they traded or released Seau before June 1. They could save just over $3 million against this year's cap if they waited until June, but next year he would count slightly more than $4 million against their cap.
Said Seau: "Everything's still at a standstill."
In other news, the Chargers have opened talks with the agent for free-agent kicker Steve Christie, who handled the team's field goal duties the past 11/2 seasons. Christie, a 14-year veteran, was 16-for-17 last season on attempts from 41 yards or closer but 2-for-9 from beyond 41.
Cardinals.Ken
That's Mr. Riff-Raff to you!
It would be great to have Junior here. I think his impact would be as significant on the defensive's attitude and mindset as Emmitt's signing will improve the offensive mindset. But I would rather not see another signing/acquition based upon reputation over ability.
But I honestly believe that Ronald McKinnon would beat him out at MLB. So if we did acquire Junior, I'm sure it would be with a guaranteed starting spot. Ronny Mac would have to move to on side or the other. This may ultimately stunt the growth of Lavar Fisher, as Ray Thompson would be the other starting OLB. I believe that Fisher still has a huge upside.
Personally I feel that our LB corp is quite solid. What we need more than Junior is a much stiffer DL. This is one of the deepest drafts I can remember at DT. That would ultimately be best for the Cardinals in the long run.
But I honestly believe that Ronald McKinnon would beat him out at MLB. So if we did acquire Junior, I'm sure it would be with a guaranteed starting spot. Ronny Mac would have to move to on side or the other. This may ultimately stunt the growth of Lavar Fisher, as Ray Thompson would be the other starting OLB. I believe that Fisher still has a huge upside.
Personally I feel that our LB corp is quite solid. What we need more than Junior is a much stiffer DL. This is one of the deepest drafts I can remember at DT. That would ultimately be best for the Cardinals in the long run.
Cardinal Bob
Glutton for Punishment
Here's the ESPN Insider piece...
Apr. 4 - Seau reportedly declined an overture by the Arizona Cardinals to put together a trade that would have brought the 11-time Pro Bowler to the desert. The San Diego Union-Tribune and Miami Herald quote Seau saying, "No one wants to trade for a player that doesn't want to be there. No matter what, I'm going to have the final say." Seau reportedly doesn't feel the Cardinals have a legitimate shot at the playoffs.
DieHardFromMO
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According to following newspaper article in Miami, Junior Seau also wants to play for a team that plays the Chargers this season.
Factoring Seau into draft
Dolphins may use late-round pick in trade for LB
BY JASON COLE
[email protected]
FIERY LEADER: Junior Seau would have instant credibility in the Dolphins' locker room.
The Dolphins figure to be on the outside looking in again at the NFL draft, but at least one low-round pick could be useful in acquiring linebacker Junior Seau.
The Dolphins held their annual news conference previewing the draft Wednesday at their training facility in Davie. But even when the event kicks off at noon April 26, the Dolphins will be waiting. Barring a trade, the Dolphins won't select until the second round with the No. 49 overall pick, which figures to be some five hours into the process.
The Dolphins are hoping one of several solid left offensive tackles will be there to fill their need at that position. Otherwise, the Dolphins will rely on the old best-player-available strategy.
But the Dolphins are considering trading one of their later-round picks this year to get San Diego's Seau, according to a team source. They also have one pick in the third round, two in the fifth, two in the sixth and two in the seventh.
Seau said Tuesday he very much wants to play for the Dolphins, and a team source said the Dolphins are very interested and paying close attention to other teams' interest in Seau.
Dolphins coach Dave Wannstedt was careful to toe the line on Seau.
''Are we looking into it? Yes, but not because we're disappointed with our guys,'' Wannstedt said. ``At this point, I wouldn't put anymore stock in it one way or another.''
Wannstedt has downplayed the idea of a trade because Seau's contract is ''complicated'' and said last week at the NFL owners' meetings that it was unlikely. But that was before several teams called San Diego about trading for Seau.
Seau's contract has an April 15 payment of $2.7 million that the Dolphins or other teams wouldn't make. After that, the deal has a $3 million base for this season, according to an NFL Players' Association source. In 2004, Seau's salary balloons to $5 million in base salary and $1.5 million in a roster bonus. In 2005, it's $5.5 million in base and another $1.5 million roster bonus. None of the money in 2004 or 2005 is guaranteed.
Seau, 34, an 11-time Pro Bowl selection, has said he wants to play three more years. It is unlikely any team would guarantee him much beyond this season, and the future salaries likely would be restructured.
The Dolphins source said the team probably would be willing to guarantee Seau $3 million this season.
Seau said Tuesday he wants to play for a competitive team and one that plays at San Diego next season. That would give him a chance to prove his former team wrong for letting him go. The Dolphins visit San Diego next season. Green Bay and Arizona, both of which have called the Chargers about trading for Seau, do not.
While the Chargers would like to get a fourth-round pick for Seau, the reality is that he will go where he wants. Any team acquiring him will likely need to restructure his contract and Seau can hold up the deal by not agreeing to restructure.
Factoring Seau into draft
Dolphins may use late-round pick in trade for LB
BY JASON COLE
[email protected]
FIERY LEADER: Junior Seau would have instant credibility in the Dolphins' locker room.
The Dolphins figure to be on the outside looking in again at the NFL draft, but at least one low-round pick could be useful in acquiring linebacker Junior Seau.
The Dolphins held their annual news conference previewing the draft Wednesday at their training facility in Davie. But even when the event kicks off at noon April 26, the Dolphins will be waiting. Barring a trade, the Dolphins won't select until the second round with the No. 49 overall pick, which figures to be some five hours into the process.
The Dolphins are hoping one of several solid left offensive tackles will be there to fill their need at that position. Otherwise, the Dolphins will rely on the old best-player-available strategy.
But the Dolphins are considering trading one of their later-round picks this year to get San Diego's Seau, according to a team source. They also have one pick in the third round, two in the fifth, two in the sixth and two in the seventh.
Seau said Tuesday he very much wants to play for the Dolphins, and a team source said the Dolphins are very interested and paying close attention to other teams' interest in Seau.
Dolphins coach Dave Wannstedt was careful to toe the line on Seau.
''Are we looking into it? Yes, but not because we're disappointed with our guys,'' Wannstedt said. ``At this point, I wouldn't put anymore stock in it one way or another.''
Wannstedt has downplayed the idea of a trade because Seau's contract is ''complicated'' and said last week at the NFL owners' meetings that it was unlikely. But that was before several teams called San Diego about trading for Seau.
Seau's contract has an April 15 payment of $2.7 million that the Dolphins or other teams wouldn't make. After that, the deal has a $3 million base for this season, according to an NFL Players' Association source. In 2004, Seau's salary balloons to $5 million in base salary and $1.5 million in a roster bonus. In 2005, it's $5.5 million in base and another $1.5 million roster bonus. None of the money in 2004 or 2005 is guaranteed.
Seau, 34, an 11-time Pro Bowl selection, has said he wants to play three more years. It is unlikely any team would guarantee him much beyond this season, and the future salaries likely would be restructured.
The Dolphins source said the team probably would be willing to guarantee Seau $3 million this season.
Seau said Tuesday he wants to play for a competitive team and one that plays at San Diego next season. That would give him a chance to prove his former team wrong for letting him go. The Dolphins visit San Diego next season. Green Bay and Arizona, both of which have called the Chargers about trading for Seau, do not.
While the Chargers would like to get a fourth-round pick for Seau, the reality is that he will go where he wants. Any team acquiring him will likely need to restructure his contract and Seau can hold up the deal by not agreeing to restructure.
I have been saying NO, NO, NO to the Cards signing Jr. Seau all along.
This guy is not what the Cards need.
I think this little episodel proves my point.
He has lost a step, is not a team player, even in his best days, he often played out of control and has had a tendancy to freelance and over run plays too much in his attempt to be "superman", with the result being he disrupts the team aspect of the game and forces other players to have to adjust to cover his butt. He reminds me sooooo much of "Simian" Rice it's pathetic.
I'm glad to see him blow off the Cards.
I can only hope that they weren't all that serious about meeting any of his outrageous demands...that they were just exploring the opportunity to maybe pick up a bargain basement-discount deal.
Personally I don't think he's worth ANY amount of money...all things considered.
This guy is not what the Cards need.
I think this little episodel proves my point.
He has lost a step, is not a team player, even in his best days, he often played out of control and has had a tendancy to freelance and over run plays too much in his attempt to be "superman", with the result being he disrupts the team aspect of the game and forces other players to have to adjust to cover his butt. He reminds me sooooo much of "Simian" Rice it's pathetic.
I'm glad to see him blow off the Cards.
I can only hope that they weren't all that serious about meeting any of his outrageous demands...that they were just exploring the opportunity to maybe pick up a bargain basement-discount deal.
Personally I don't think he's worth ANY amount of money...all things considered.
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I couldn't agree more. While I feel that Emmitt Smith still has something left in the tank and struggled last year because the Cowboys line and passing game stunk, Junior Seau has been a mediocre player the last 2 seasons. He's just old and finished. I don't want him here taking snaps away from Woods, Fisher, or anyone else. He is broken down and is no longer an impact player.
Cardinals.Ken
That's Mr. Riff-Raff to you!
It's nice to see we agree on some things!
CardinalChris
Big Man Himself
Even worse, he is a "fiery leader" who played hurt late in the game to the point of pulling healthy players even though he could barely stand. Players ran by him in critical points of the game, even though his replacement, a healthy Zeke Moreno had 8 tackles in his absence. If a disciplinarian like Marty can't get him out of the game when it counted and he was obviously playing on one leg why would we want him? "Team" player/lader let's his ego get in his way. I lived in Diego and watched 30+ gams with him the past couple years. He's slipped.
arthurracoon
The Cardinal Smiles
I'm going to laugh when the Cards win the super bowl and Seau doesn't even mak the playoffs!
<p>You and I both Ed. You see I have this bet with my wife----------Uhhh---some things are better left unsaid.
what is it with seau saying miami (indirectly I guess) that miami is a playoff team...Last I checked they are in the same conference as new england, jets and buffalo. Miami might finish 4th - at least based on the moves by the other 3 teams this offseason..
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