Should the Cards Sign Law At or Near His Asking Price?

[Red Air Force]

Personally I think he would complete this team, and the Cards should do what ever it takes to put the best offer out there.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Asking price too high. Lower his bonus money in half and I would sign him.

 

[nurnay]

Asking price too high. Lower his bonus money in half and I would sign him.

 

[clif]

who cares... it's house money at this point. I say go for it. The reward far outweighs the risk.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

who cares... it's house money at this point. I say go for it. The reward far outweighs the risk.

Then why not offer him 20 mil in bonuses and get him in today?

You think that we should spend nearly as much on Law as we did on James?

Me not think so.

 

[clif]

Then why not offer him 20 mil in bonuses and get him in today?

You think that we should spend nearly as much on Law as we did on James?

Me not think so.

BEcause I believe that would put the team over the cap. Look Law is a very good player. There is no question that he would have an immediate and positive impact on this team. The Cards are not one player away, but I think he can have an impact similar to what Edge will do for the offense. Obviously he has had injury problems and is 32 years old, but we don't need him for 5 years just a year or 2 maybe 3

 

[dreamcastrocks]

BEcause I believe that would put the team over the cap. Look Law is a very good player. There is no question that he would have an immediate and positive impact on this team. The Cards are not one player away, but I think he can have an impact similar to what Edge will do for the offense. Obviously he has had injury problems and is 32 years old, but we don't need him for 5 years just a year or 2 maybe 3

No, I didn't say that it had to be a 20 mil up front bonuses, they could have been spread out through the years in roster bonuses....

 

[clif]

No, I didn't say that it had to be a 20 mil up front bonuses, they could have been spread out through the years in roster bonuses....

For a legit shut down corner? I would certainly think about it. THe Cards have 50 mil avail next year in FA. Why not pay him some of that in performance and roster bonuses if he produces. ( i don't claim to know anything about how it would work cap wise) If the team can afford it.. I say give it a look.

 

[ajcardfan]

For a legit shut down corner? I would certainly think about it. THe Cards have 50 mil avail next year in FA. Why not pay him some of that in performance and roster bonuses if he produces. ( i don't claim to know anything about how it would work cap wise) If the team can afford it.. I say give it a look.

He wasn't a "shut down" guy last year even though his INT totals were spectacular. He had his worst season in getting burned deep and giving up catches. At least that's what my buddy who is a Jets fan told me. And, I seem to recall reading that somewhere as well.

 

[clif]

He wasn't a "shut down" guy last year even though his INT totals were spectacular. He had his worst season in getting burned deep and giving up catches. At least that's what my buddy who is a Jets fan told me. And, I seem to recall reading that somewhere as well.

You're probably right.. maybe not a "shut down" corner, but I would take 8-10 ints on my team any day of the week. He definetely has an eye for the ball. I would have no problem signing him.

 

[ajcardfan]

You're probably right.. maybe not a "shut down" corner, but I would take 8-10 ints on my team any day of the week. He definetely has an eye for the ball. I would have no problem signing him.

I wouldn't either IF....

1. He works out and shows he has made some progress with that knee.

2. His deal doesn't impact getting a couple of extensions done this year.

 

[CardLogic]

I admit to not knowing or caring much about the money side of pro football. But I have couple thoughts...

1.) Who knows what "Law's asking price" is??? Anyone that thinks they know is just making a best guess.

2.) I think that FA prices are going to really jump next year due to the new CBA and salary cap structure. Even though the agreement was completed prior to this years FA period, I don't believe the the full impact of it was applied to this years new contracts. If this bears true, then Law's "high" asking price this year may seem like much more of a bargin by next year.

3.) Coupled with the impact that Law could possibly add to the Cardinals how high is too high??

 

[joeshmo]

He wasn't a "shut down" guy last year even though his INT totals were spectacular. He had his worst season in getting burned deep and giving up catches. At least that's what my buddy who is a Jets fan told me. And, I seem to recall reading that somewhere as well.

For some reason he gets that label.

But the Jets with one of the worst pass rushes in the league last year were the 2nd best rated pass D according to footballoutsiders. That tells me the CB's were really good last year.

3rd - Average yards per catch
Tied for 6th - TD's allowed
5th - First Downs Allowed
4th - 20+ yard plays allowed
1st - 40+ yard plays allowed (they only allowed 2 last year)
2nd - Yards allowed per game
5th - INT's

He had the most amount of tackles out of all the CB's. Had the most Passes defensed and most INT's. On a squad putting up those rankings with a below average pass rush as the #1 CB. And none of the CB's on that team were getting burned deep.

He may not be a Shut Down guy anymore, but he is still very much so really, really good. And Really good in run support as well. He is still a pro bowl caliber top 10 CB in the league. He would have been signed on the first day of FA with a very nice sized contract by now if his agent wasnt named Poston, one of whom cant be an agent anymore because of violations.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

maybe it was that other CB they have that was responsible for all the stats .

 

[ajcardfan]

It does sound like the label put on him was unfair joe. It might be that he was a high profile guy going into last season, the Jets had a bad year, and he became one of the fans targets for their disappointment.

Sometimes fans can latch onto one bad game and then that's how they remember the players entire season. For example, Ross had a horrid game against the Giants. Even though he never played that bad again, and actually had a couple of decent games (in particular the Indy game at LT) he's been in the doghouse ever since. Even to the point where people want us to put in unproven rookies or sign someone off the street to replace him.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

For some reason he gets that label.

But the Jets with one of the worst pass rushes in the league last year were the 2nd best rated pass D according to footballoutsiders. That tells me the CB's were really good last year.

3rd - Average yards per catch
Tied for 6th - TD's allowed
5th - First Downs Allowed
4th - 20+ yard plays allowed
1st - 40+ yard plays allowed (they only allowed 2 last year)
2nd - Yards allowed per game
5th - INT's

He had the most amount of tackles out of all the CB's. Had the most Passes defensed and most INT's. On a squad putting up those rankings with a below average pass rush as the #1 CB. And none of the CB's on that team were getting burned deep.

He may not be a Shut Down guy anymore, but he is still very much so really, really good. And Really good in run support as well. He is still a pro bowl caliber top 10 CB in the league. He would have been signed on the first day of FA with a very nice sized contract by now if his agent wasnt named Poston, one of whom cant be an agent anymore because of violations.

Teams knew the Jets could only score about 6 points a game so they didn't have to throw alot.Get a lead and run the clock out. It's good that he ahd 10 picks last year but when i saw him play he looked slow. I remember his INT return for a TD it was something like 70 yards. I think Maurice Clarett would've caught him from behind. It took about 15 seconds for him to get to the end zone. Even the announcers were laughing that he finally made it.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Sign him for less with incentives...

 

[clif]

Teams knew the Jets could only score about 6 points a game so they didn't have to throw alot.Get a lead and run the clock out. It's good that he ahd 10 picks last year but when i saw him play he looked slow. I remember his INT return for a TD it was something like 70 yards. I think Maurice Clarett would've caught him from behind. It took about 15 seconds for him to get to the end zone. Even the announcers were laughing that he finally made it.

But it has been stated a couple of times that he was clearly overweight last year due to recovering from foot surgery and still put up great numbers. Word is that he is in better shape and has not lost a step.

 

[JC_AZ]

Simply offer the contract with the incentives to allow him to reach his $$ requirements...we do not need to feed him to Seattle, who at the moment does not have an answer for our passing game if all stay healthy!

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Teams knew the Jets could only score about 6 points a game so they didn't have to throw alot.Get a lead and run the clock out. It's good that he ahd 10 picks last year but when i saw him play he looked slow. I remember his INT return for a TD it was something like 70 yards. I think Maurice Clarett would've caught him from behind. It took about 15 seconds for him to get to the end zone. Even the announcers were laughing that he finally made it.

70 yards... and no one caught him from behind.

I guess speed is relative.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

He wasn't a "shut down" guy last year even though his INT totals were spectacular. He had his worst season in getting burned deep and giving up catches. At least that's what my buddy who is a Jets fan told me. And, I seem to recall reading that somewhere as well.

Well to be fair he got no pressure on the QB and still managed 10 ints. Make no mistake, the guy is still a player and showed it on a bad Jets team last year.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

edit: woops didnt see Joe's post.

My thoughts exactly Joe.

 

[JeffGollin]

First of all, bulletin boardpolls suck. (The reason I hate them is that they tend to pigeon-hole the responder into choosing one of two options when others exist. And they often ignore context).

My answer: If - after cap room is allocated for the rookie pool - we have the money to sign him, let's do it. But I wouldn't sacrifice any other player on our roster in order to free up more dollars to sign him.

My reasoning: (1) You can't have too many good CB's, (2) Right now the senior leaders of our CB group are Macklin and Tate. Law could be a stabilizing veteran force in our secondary and a mentor to our younger corners. (3) He comes from a championship program (New England), knows what it takes to win and can demonstrate this to others on our team. It's hard to put a value on that.

 

[sundevil04]

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what exactly is his asking price?
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[ThunderCard]

I would give him 20 Million over 4 years with a 10 Million signing bonus which would not be that bad. All we have to do is cut Hodgkins, trade Ship, and rework Big's deal and we will still have a cushion left over. Right now we have 3.7 million left if I am not mistaken ..

Adding that leadership in the secondary might really help the front 7 concentrate on the run and hitting the QB. It would completly open up Pendy's playbook.