Simmons Will Wear the Green Dot

[PDXChris]

This will make some happy and others will just bash Collins because they can and might be valid. Still waiting for week 1 and see how he holds up.

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[RON_IN_OC]

He's come a long way, then, since his 1st game where he was totally out of position and got benched.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

This will make some happy and other will just bash Collins because they can.

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Bash Collins because they can? LOL.

Zaven Collins already Cardinals starter, Jordan Hicks to seek trade

The Arizona Cardinals are entrusting rookie first-round pick Zaven Collins, with an immediate starting linebacker spot at the expense of Jordan Hicks.

sportsnaut.com

This guy? The one who was supposed to be a day one starter?

Zaven Collins coming along slowly for the Arizona Cardinals should be no surprise

When the Arizona Cardinals drafted Zaven Collins in the first round of the 2021 NFL Draft they made some waves. Not because of the pick, but because they then proclaimed Collins the man and that he...

www.revengeofthebirds.com

Oh, it's December, we should be patient!

High expectations for Cardinals linebacker Zaven Collins going into Year 2

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Uh, maybe he won't be wearing the green dot. What should we set the bar to this year...outsnapping Joe Walker and Tanner Vallejo?

 

[BritCard]

Logical.

Not sure why Collins was ever considered over Simmons.

 

[PDXChris]

And there it is!!!

 

[jf-08]

Means he'll be on the field quite a bit.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Bash Collins because they can? LOL.

Zaven Collins already Cardinals starter, Jordan Hicks to seek trade

The Arizona Cardinals are entrusting rookie first-round pick Zaven Collins, with an immediate starting linebacker spot at the expense of Jordan Hicks.

sportsnaut.com

This guy? The one who was supposed to be a day one starter?

Zaven Collins coming along slowly for the Arizona Cardinals should be no surprise

When the Arizona Cardinals drafted Zaven Collins in the first round of the 2021 NFL Draft they made some waves. Not because of the pick, but because they then proclaimed Collins the man and that he...

www.revengeofthebirds.com

Oh, it's December, we should be patient!

High expectations for Cardinals linebacker Zaven Collins going into Year 2

www.azcardinals.com

Uh, maybe he won't be wearing the green dot. What should we set the bar to this year...outsnapping Joe Walker and Tanner Vallejo?

Maybe he meant Simmons, not Collins??? Since that's who's getting the green dot.

 

[PDXChris]

Maybe he meant Simmons, not Collins??? Since that's who's getting the green dot.

Collins was in line to get the dot. Since he didn't, I'm expecting this thread to be about how much he's sucks vs Simmons and how much he's grown.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Maybe he meant Simmons, not Collins??? Since that's who's getting the green dot.

Yeah, I think he understands that typically that role would be given to Collins (as was discussed when he was drafted), but it's going to Simmons bc Collins still isn't ready.

I'll be very curious to see if Collins makes an impact this year - you can't draft non-premium positions in the first round unless you are 100% confident that they will be good players.

 

[Shane]

We have to wait and see how he performs but this can only be good news… And totally invalidate the premise that the two guys that were buried on the Depth chart we’re going to be starters

 

[football karma]

Means he'll be on the field quite a bit.

yes, like always

 

[ASUCHRIS]

We have to wait and see how he performs but this can only be good news… And totally invalidate the premise that the two guys that were buried on the Depth chart we’re going to be starters

Simmons was always going to play - the question was whether or not Collins is ready to take the next step. If he's losing snaps to a career nobody like Nick Vigil, that's really bad.

 

[FB94]

Fine with Simmons having the green dot. I won’t make any judgements on Collins until I see the guy get significant snaps all year.

 

[Shane]

Simmons was always going to play - the question was whether or not Collins is ready to take the next step. If he's losing snaps to a career nobody like Nick Vigil, that's really bad.

Not according to Many on this board… They were many are saying that the two linebackers buried on the depth chart that didn’t play in preseason were sure to start and that was a sure sign of it…

 

[PDXChris]

Not according to Manny on this board… They were men are saying that the two linebackers buried on the depth chart that didn’t play in preseason were sure to start and that was a sure sign of it…

Who's Manny?

 

[MadCardDisease]

Not according to Manny on this board… They were men are saying that the two linebackers buried on the depth chart that didn’t play in preseason were sure to start and that was a sure sign of it…

Who is Manny and what are the men you speak of?

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Not according to Manny on this board… They were men are saying that the two linebackers buried on the depth chart that didn’t play in preseason were sure to start and that was a sure sign of it…

Weird, I haven't seen much of that. The Simmons hype train has been real, and he showed some signs last year. Collins has looked completely lost so far, but regular season and preseason, and has been getting direct and pointed criticism, even from state TV.

 

[PDXChris]

At least we are finally talking about real football!!!!

 

[Ronin]

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[kerouac9]

Fine with Simmons having the green dot. I won’t make any judgements on Collins until I see the guy get significant snaps all year.

So you won’t be able to gather any evidence about him if he’s nailed to the bench for +60% of defensive snaps tho is year?

 

[gimpy]

I’m one of these guys who like to watch/play the young guys, especially when you draft very talented guys in the first or second round or so. I think both Collins and Simmons should have been playing at least 50% or so of the defensive snaps since game one. I don’t like that Joseph did not play them and did not play them at their position of strength whatever that might be.

 

[kerouac9]

I’m one of these guys who like to watch/play the young guys, especially when you draft very talented guys in the first or second round or so. I think both Collins and Simmons should have been playing at least 50% or so of the defensive snaps since game one. I don’t like that Joseph did not play them and did not play them at their position of strength whatever that might be.

You’re complaining about usage following a 10-win playoff season? Imagine.

 

[gimpy]

Who knows. Maybe they could have made it a twelve win season?

 

[FB94]

So you won’t be able to gather any evidence about him if he’s nailed to the bench for +60% of defensive snaps tho is year?

Last year Hicks was the vet guy that VJ trusted, and Collins wasn’t ready. It’s a new year and Collins needs to play and play through mistakes. Simmons made a lot of mistakes so give Collins a good run first before burying him. I can recall Hicks not making plays all season, but because he is a vet he gets a pass. I had enough of seeing #58 running 5 yards behind his man.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Earned or wish move?