Sixers make offer to Blount

[Town Drunk]

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/9087062.htm?1c

Rotoworld.com suggests that it might be a a 6 year/$37.5 million dollar deal.

 

[slinslin]

I hope they get Blount that woud maybe make it possible to acquire Dalembert in some johnson for dalembert swap or Marion for Dalembert and Robinson.

 

[SweetD]

I hope they get Blount that woud maybe make it possible to acquire Dalembert in some johnson for dalembert swap or Marion for Dalembert and Robinson.

Dalembert is good but no way is he worth JJ or Marion. I could see a future pick and Jacobsen.

 

[hcsilla]

Dalembert is good but no way is he worth JJ or Marion. I could see a future pick and Jacobsen.

Yes, a future top 28 protected pick.

 

[Dave64]

Dalembert showed some serious game last year. Check out his reounds stats. He can jump out of the building. He would be a perfect fit, as long as the most we give up is JJ. I would not give up Marion for Dalembert because he needs to prove his wares over more than just a few months.

 

[SweetD]

Dalembert showed some serious game last year. Check out his reounds stats. He can jump out of the building. He would be a perfect fit, as long as the most we give up is JJ. I would not give up Marion for Dalembert because he needs to prove his wares over more than just a few months.

This is why I say Swift would be the best fit and he is a FREE AGENT.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

This is why I say Swift would be the best fit and he is a FREE AGENT.

RFA. Memphis can match any offers. My guess is they will as long as it is in reason (The suns can only offer a reasonable deal)

 

[Dave64]

Swift would be fine in my view. Very young, with untapped potential.

 

[slinslin]

I heard Detroit will offer their MLE either to Swift, Blount or McDyess.

If that's true I would rather have Swift for slightly over the MLE than McDyess. Although I would still like to keep Dice because he could teach Swift a few things as well and would give us a good 3-man rotation at the 4 and 5 although a "short" one.

 

[cepstrum]

Dalembert is good but no way is he worth JJ or Marion. I could see a future pick and Jacobsen.

Well that may be the case, but you always have to overpay (in terms of money and talent) for a big guy. I remember watching a couple of sixers games last year and saying to myself if we had this guy, there is no way we would let him go. Doc Rivers was doing that game and he said that there is probably no other center in the NBA that can run the floor like dalembert and from what I saw I couldnt argue more. He seems like the perfect fit for the suns. As much as I like JJ and shawn, I would part with one of the two to get Dalembert. Remember the sg and sf forward positions are the easiest to fill in the NBA, whereas the center position is the hardest.

 

[slinslin]

I saw that game that Doc Rivers did as well.

He said Dalembert has excellent footwork. He is explosive , can jump and has very long arms. The Sixers would just throw it up close to the rim and he would catch it.

I am not sure he is better than Chandler because Chandler when healthy is a terrific rebounder and is a legit 7'1 or even 7'2 with the same athleticism.

I think Chandler would be a lot easier to get because he is rumored to be on the blocks for quite a while now and we have that little protected Chicago pick.

 

[SweetD]

Dalembert is a RFA next year and can be had for the right price. Phi is over the limit next year and may not be willing to keep him if they sign some free agents this year and move Glenn for another big contract. Lets hold tight and offer a package next year.

 

[slinslin]

I doubt they would let Dalembert go at almost any price. We won't have capspace to offer him a deal that he would take if we even have capspace next year.

 

[cepstrum]

I doubt they would let Dalembert go at almost any price. We won't have capspace to offer him a deal that he would take if we even have capspace next year.

He was the 26th pick in the first round right? Can you go over the cap to sign a first round pick. Lets say the suns do trade for him, can they go over the cap to sign him because he is a first round pick? I know that there are some problems with second round picks (see arenas and warriors), but whats the deal with first rounders.

 

[slinslin]

The problem with those 2nd round guys is that they had only 2 year contracts and their teams don't get their bird rights after only 2 years.

 

[cepstrum]

The problem with those 2nd round guys is that they had only 2 year contracts and their teams don't get their bird rights after only 2 years.

so do bird rights transfer? if we got dalembert, would we have his bird rights since its a rookie contract and its 3 years long?

 

[elindholm]

if we got dalembert, would we have his bird rights since its a rookie contract and its 3 years long?

Yes, the Suns would have Dalembert's Bird rights. Also, note that this coming season is already his fourth in the league (his team option year). He was injured during the entire '02-'03 season and did not play.

 

[coloradosun]

If we send Marion and Vujanic, can't we absorb Kenny Thomas or Glen Robinson and Dalembert with our cap space. This would allow them to sign Rasheed.

 

[Joe Mama]

The 76ers do not need Shawn Marion or Joe Johnson, and they realize that Dalembert is valuable. They aren't going to give him to the Phoenix Suns.

I know... I'm a party pooper.

Joe

 

[Chaplin]

The 76ers do not need Shawn Marion or Joe Johnson, and they realize that Dalembert is valuable. They aren't going to give him to the Phoenix Suns.

I know... I'm a party pooper.

Joe

Why? That is probably the most truthful and realistic thing anybody has said about the whole Dalembert thing.

 

[George O'Brien]

The 76ers do not need Shawn Marion or Joe Johnson, and they realize that Dalembert is valuable. They aren't going to give him to the Phoenix Suns.

I know... I'm a party pooper.

Joe

The concept that a trade has to benefit both sides seems to be a difficult one to grasp.

 

[elindholm]

The concept that a trade has to benefit both sides seems to be a difficult one to grasp.

I don't understand why you're being so patronizing. Is it your contention that there is no remotely plausible trade involving Marion that would significantly upgrade the Suns' center position?

 

[George O'Brien]

The concept that a trade has to benefit both sides seems to be a difficult one to grasp.

I don't understand why you're being so patronizing. Is it your contention that there is no remotely plausible trade involving Marion that would significantly upgrade the Suns' center position?

No. Just that trade proposals have to START with an understanding of the other team's needs. Yes, every team can use another good player, but do they need what you are offering enough to give up a scarced resource like a decent center?

Seriously, there are teams that could use Marion, but they don't have anyone we would want. I could make a case that the Cavs might be interested (even if they did pick up a couple of guys) in a deal for Zydrunas Ilgauskas. He makes $3 million more than Marion with only one year on his contract. There are rumors that the Cavs may not plan on re-signing him. In a pinch they could use Battie at center and hope Diop develops.

Is this a good deal for either side? I can't say. But at least it starts out with more going for it than trying to trade an $11 million a year guy for a guy making $1.5 million (Dalembert).

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

No. Just that trade proposals have to START with an understanding of the other team's needs. Yes, every team can use another good player, but do they need what you are offering enough to give up a scarced resource like a decent center?

Seriously, there are teams that could use Marion, but they don't have anyone we would want. I could make a case that the Cavs might be interested (even if they did pick up a couple of guys) in a deal for Zydrunas Ilgauskas. He makes $3 million more than Marion with only one year on his contract. There are rumors that the Cavs may not plan on re-signing him. In a pinch they could use Battie at center and hope Diop develops.

Is this a good deal for either side? I can't say. But at least it starts out with more going for it than trying to trade an $11 million a year guy for a guy making $1.5 million (Dalembert).

that last point is salient, but what about a package of jj plus a first round pick for dalembert. consider that the sixers may sign blount, that makes retention of dalembert not quite as imperative. and the sixers have been searching for an effective scoring wing for a long time (see van horn, the dude they traded van horn for-just escaping me right now, kukoc, big dog) and may just bite at a young, inexpensive 6'8 jj and a draft pick.