Sixteen Candles (1984)

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I loved this movie as a kid, and I still think it's great, but I recently rewatched it and sheesh there are some scenes that don't feel right in today's atmosphere. The scene with Caroline passed out and Jake telling Ted he could have his way with her if he wanted...yikes.

Also, I found the Donger hilarious, but this guys makes a great point.

This movie has gotten a great deal of criticism from some of its Asian-American viewers for its racial insensitivity, and its negative impact on their upbringings. In a 2008 National Public Radio piece titled "Long Duk Dong: Last of the Hollywood Stereotypes?", reporter Alison MacAdam interviewed Eric Nakamura, a co-founder of Giant Robot Magazine, which covers Asian and Asian American pop culture. Nakamura said, "Every single Asian dude who went to high school or junior high during the era of John Hughes' movies was called 'Donger'. I mean, if you're being called 'Long Duk Dong', you're comic relief amongst a sea of people unlike you, and you're also being portrayed as a non-(American) person. You're being portrayed as a guy who just came off a boat, and who's out of control. It's like every bad stereotype possible loaded into one character. Just the gong that, you know, appears behind them magically every time he's on the screen, gong, you know, that's awful. I mean, I feel bad for (actor Gedde Watanabe) in the end, because he's had to live with the fact that all these Asian-American men hate him." Watanabe was also interviewed for the piece, and he recounted numerous incidents in which people have publicly expressed their anger at him for playing a role that so widely disseminated negative stereotypes of Asian men.


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Yeah, times change. You can see it in the Hollywood films through the years but it's not just ours, it's films from all over. And books, music and so on. Just look at these lyrics from popular songs from 4 or 5 decades ago.

I'd rather see you dead, little girl, than to be with another man. (Beatles)

Oh Johnny get angry, Johnny get mad, give me the biggest lecture I've ever had. I want a cave man, I want a brave man, Johnny show me that you care. (Joanie Summers)

He hit me and it felt like a kiss, he hit me but it didn’t hurt me, he hit me and I knew he loved me. If he didn’t care for me, I could have never made him mad, but he hit me and I was glad. (The Crystals, written by Carole King/Gerry Goffin).

If her daddy's rich, take her out for a meal. If her daddy's poor, just do what you will. (Mungo Jerry)

Brown sugar, how come you taste so good. Brown sugar, just like a young girl should. Brown sugar, how come you dance so good. Brown sugar, just like a black girl should. (Rolling Stones)

Well you leave me alone to keep the teepee clean. Six papooses to break and then wean. Well your squaw is on the warpath tonight. (Loretta Lynn)

They were funky Chinamen from funky Chinatown. (Carl Douglas)

Not to mention songs such as Money For Nothing, No reply, You're sixteen, Fat Bottomed Girls, Half Breed, Cherokee Nation, Cradle of Love, Cat Scratch Fever, Ahab the Arab and many hundreds more.
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Anyway, I still like a lot of those songs and I still enjoy re-watching 16 Candles and all the racist and racially insensitive cartoons from my youth.
 

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Then there is this 60's song...

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Young girl, get out of my mind
My love for you is way out of line
Better run girl
You're much too young girl
With all the charms of a woman
You've kept the secret of your youth
You led me to believe you're old enough
To give me love
And now it hurts to know the truth
 

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^^Yeah I thought about including that one and another Puckett tune called Lady Willpower. Truth is, a significant percentage of 60's era hits would be inappropriate today. And if we just made a list that talked about getting it on with teenaged girls, it would be a very long list.
 

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Yeah, times change. You can see it in the Hollywood films through the years but it's not just ours, it's films from all over. And books, music and so on. Just look at these lyrics from popular songs from 4 or 5 decades ago.

I'd rather see you dead, little girl, than to be with another man. (Beatles)

Oh Johnny get angry, Johnny get mad, give me the biggest lecture I've ever had. I want a cave man, I want a brave man, Johnny show me that you care. (Joanie Summers)

He hit me and it felt like a kiss, he hit me but it didn’t hurt me, he hit me and I knew he loved me. If he didn’t care for me, I could have never made him mad, but he hit me and I was glad. (The Crystals, written by Carole King/Gerry Goffin).

If her daddy's rich, take her out for a meal. If her daddy's poor, just do what you will. (Mungo Jerry)

Brown sugar, how come you taste so good. Brown sugar, just like a young girl should. Brown sugar, how come you dance so good. Brown sugar, just like a black girl should. (Rolling Stones)

Well you leave me alone to keep the teepee clean. Six papooses to break and then wean. Well your squaw is on the warpath tonight. (Loretta Lynn)

They were funky Chinamen from funky Chinatown. (Carl Douglas)

Not to mention songs such as Money For Nothing, No reply, You're sixteen, Fat Bottomed Girls, Half Breed, Cherokee Nation, Cradle of Love, Cat Scratch Fever, Ahab the Arab and many hundreds more.
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Anyway, I still like a lot of those songs and I still enjoy re-watching 16 Candles and all the racist and racially insensitive cartoons from my youth.

Excellent post, and I've thought about/talked about oldies songs like the above ones you mentioned a lot. I also like the one "You don't live in a beautiful place, you don't dress in the best of taste, and nature didn't give you such a beautiful face, but baby, you've got what it takes." So you live in a crap hole, dress like crap, and are fugly, but I guess I'll hook up with you lol

Note: The lyrics may be slightly misquoted, but close enough.
 
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Who creates a thread like this at 6am on a Saturday morning?

Hahaha. Someone that's addicted to watching and learning everything he can about movies.

Who takes the time to click a thread and type a post about something he's not interested in? :)

Yeah, times change. You can see it in the Hollywood films through the years but it's not just ours, it's films from all over. And books, music and so on. Just look at these lyrics from popular songs from 4 or 5 decades ago.

I'd rather see you dead, little girl, than to be with another man. (Beatles)

Oh Johnny get angry, Johnny get mad, give me the biggest lecture I've ever had. I want a cave man, I want a brave man, Johnny show me that you care. (Joanie Summers)

He hit me and it felt like a kiss, he hit me but it didn’t hurt me, he hit me and I knew he loved me. If he didn’t care for me, I could have never made him mad, but he hit me and I was glad. (The Crystals, written by Carole King/Gerry Goffin).

If her daddy's rich, take her out for a meal. If her daddy's poor, just do what you will. (Mungo Jerry)

Brown sugar, how come you taste so good. Brown sugar, just like a young girl should. Brown sugar, how come you dance so good. Brown sugar, just like a black girl should. (Rolling Stones)

Well you leave me alone to keep the teepee clean. Six papooses to break and then wean. Well your squaw is on the warpath tonight. (Loretta Lynn)

They were funky Chinamen from funky Chinatown. (Carl Douglas)

Not to mention songs such as Money For Nothing, No reply, You're sixteen, Fat Bottomed Girls, Half Breed, Cherokee Nation, Cradle of Love, Cat Scratch Fever, Ahab the Arab and many hundreds more.
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Anyway, I still like a lot of those songs and I still enjoy re-watching 16 Candles and all the racist and racially insensitive cartoons from my youth.


Sheesh, I've never really thought about all the lyrics like that that are out there.
 

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How about “A Kiss with a Fist?”


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Excellent post, and I've thought about/talked about oldies songs like the above ones you mentioned a lot. I also like the one "You don't live in a beautiful place, you don't dress in the best of taste, and nature didn't give you such a beautiful face, but baby, you've got what it takes." So you live in a crap hole, dress like crap, and are fugly, but I guess I'll hook up with you lol

Note: The lyrics may be slightly misquoted, but close enough.

Yeah, a Dave Clark Five classic. I hadn't even thought about that type of inappropriateness. It would pretty much wipe out the entire Joe Tex catalog with lyrics such as "Just 'cause her got them skinny little legs" or "I ain't gonna bump no more with no big fat woman" but at least they are fairly mild compared to the Jimmy Soul hit with this advice "get an ugly girl to marry you".
 

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And speaking of the changing times, I was reading while casually watching a classic movie on TCM called It Happened on 5th Avenue. I've always liked this movie but my ears picked up when they said "Myrtle's a great little woman, we've been married 22 years. She ain't never laid a fist on me excepting in self defense".
 

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