Skelton on Dan Patrick show

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I don't think that the 49ers are concerned with Skelton or the Cards in their rearview mirror. Interesting mini-dig on Kolb.

The schedule pretty much dictates that the 49ers are going to come back down to earth a little bit. I don't think we're as bunched-together as the AFC West, but 9 or 10 wins should win the division. The question is where are those wins going to come from? I think we can go 4-2 in division, sweeping St. Louis and splitting with Seattle and San Francisco. Are there 6 more wins on the schedule? I just don't know.

That's why I think that Seattle is ever-so-quietly the favorite to win the division. If they go 4-2 in the division, then they can maybe split with Green Bay and New England at home. They have Dallas, Minnesota, and the Jets in Seattle, as well. If they can win two of those three, that gets them to seven wins. The rookie is probably going to have to win two of three road games at Miami, Buffalo, and Carolina to finish in first or second.

Three of the Seahawks' last four games are at home, and all are division games. They could conceivably cruise to a division title if they beat us on Sunday and Dallas the next week. If San Francisco loses to Green Bay and Detroit to open the year, they're going to be in trouble.
 

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I don't think that the 49ers are concerned with Skelton or the Cards in their rearview mirror. Interesting mini-dig on Kolb.

The schedule pretty much dictates that the 49ers are going to come back down to earth a little bit. I don't think we're as bunched-together as the AFC West, but 9 or 10 wins should win the division. The question is where are those wins going to come from? I think we can go 4-2 in division, sweeping St. Louis and splitting with Seattle and San Francisco. Are there 6 more wins on the schedule? I just don't know.

That's why I think that Seattle is ever-so-quietly the favorite to win the division. If they go 4-2 in the division, then they can maybe split with Green Bay and New England at home. They have Dallas, Minnesota, and the Jets in Seattle, as well. If they can win two of those three, that gets them to seven wins. The rookie is probably going to have to win two of three road games at Miami, Buffalo, and Carolina to finish in first or second.

Three of the Seahawks' last four games are at home, and all are division games. They could conceivably cruise to a division title if they beat us on Sunday and Dallas the next week. If San Francisco loses to Green Bay and Detroit to open the year, they're going to be in trouble.
Ya, maybe. I guess.
 

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I'm just glad that Skelton has high expectations. I wouldn't want it any other way!

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I'm just glad that Skelton has high expectations. I wouldn't want it any other way!

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Exactly, it shows he has confidence his linemen will do what is necessary to develop.
 

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Seattle is not going to beat Green Bay and New England on the road. Zero Chance.

Well, that's good, because they play both of those teams at home this year. The Cards and San Francisco play both of them on the road. What's more likely, that Seattle takes one of those games in their own building (Green Bay is probably unlikely; the Packers travel on 10 days rest after playing Chicago on Thursday night football--New England travels after playing a late game the week before against Peyton and the Broncos), or the Cards taking game against those opponents on the road?

Seattle was the same 8-8 that we were last year; they've upgraded their pass rush and their passers. Someone's going to win the NFC West; is it more likely that it'll be the team that faces their two toughest opponents on the road, or at home?
 

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Well, that's good, because they play both of those teams at home this year. The Cards and San Francisco play both of them on the road. What's more likely, that Seattle takes one of those games in their own building (Green Bay is probably unlikely; the Packers travel on 10 days rest after playing Chicago on Thursday night football--New England travels after playing a late game the week before against Peyton and the Broncos), or the Cards taking game against those opponents on the road?

Seattle was the same 8-8 that we were last year; they've upgraded their pass rush and their passers. Someone's going to win the NFC West; is it more likely that it'll be the team that faces their two toughest opponents on the road, or at home?
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Well, that's good, because they play both of those teams at home this year. The Cards and San Francisco play both of them on the road. What's more likely, that Seattle takes one of those games in their own building (Green Bay is probably unlikely; the Packers travel on 10 days rest after playing Chicago on Thursday night football--New England travels after playing a late game the week before against Peyton and the Broncos), or the Cards taking game against those opponents on the road?

Seattle was the same 8-8 that we were last year; they've upgraded their pass rush and their passers. Someone's going to win the NFC West; is it more likely that it'll be the team that faces their two toughest opponents on the road, or at home?


The seahawks dont have DJ young therefore they cannot beat anyone.
 

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Well, that's good, because they play both of those teams at home this year. The Cards and San Francisco play both of them on the road. What's more likely, that Seattle takes one of those games in their own building (Green Bay is probably unlikely; the Packers travel on 10 days rest after playing Chicago on Thursday night football--New England travels after playing a late game the week before against Peyton and the Broncos), or the Cards taking game against those opponents on the road?

Seattle was the same 8-8 that we were last year; they've upgraded their pass rush and their passers. Someone's going to win the NFC West; is it more likely that it'll be the team that faces their two toughest opponents on the road, or at home?

We dont know if they have upgraded their passers at this point. They could be worse once those two guys get in the regular season and have to play long period of time. Lets not jump the gun. Oh and Seattle was 7-9
 

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We dont know if they have upgraded their passers at this point. They could be worse once those two guys get in the regular season and have to play long period of time. Lets not jump the gun. Oh and Seattle was 7-9

We don't know, but they liked both the guys they got enough to trade the one that they had. We can only clearly say that we upgraded the #3 on the depth chart and got rid of that bum Richard Bartel.

I think that if it come down to a battle of 3rd string QBs, we'll have a clear advantage.
 

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Is it true that Skelton gave incomplete answers to half the questions? And that several went right over Dan Patrick's head?
 

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We dont know if they have upgraded their passers at this point. They could be worse once those two guys get in the regular season and have to play long period of time. Lets not jump the gun. Oh and Seattle was 7-9

Exactly. I don't know why a bunch of people keep acting as if Russel Wilson is the next Peyton Manning. If Seattle had Andrew Luck, then maybe they could draw that comparision. Until Wilson proves it on the field with wins, then Seattle has the forth best QB in the division at this point.
 

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Exactly. I don't know why a bunch of people keep acting as if Russel Wilson is the next Peyton Manning. If Seattle had Andrew Luck, then maybe they could draw that comparision. Until Wilson proves it on the field with wins, then Seattle has the forth best QB in the division at this point.

I'd trade John Skelton or Kevin Kolb for either Matt Flynn or Russell Wilson. Maybe not right now, but during the draft or at the opening of camp. If Graves made that call, would he even hear John Schneider laughing hysterically before he hung up the phone?
 

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I'd trade John Skelton or Kevin Kolb for either Matt Flynn or Russell Wilson. Maybe not right now, but during the draft or at the opening of camp. If Graves made that call, would he even hear John Schneider laughing hysterically before he hung up the phone?

I'll take a wait and see stance. It was only a couple of years ago that some people on here were pissed that we lost out on getting Charlie Whitehurst and we saw how that ended up. Flynn and Wilson could be no different. However, I will say that I was against the trade we made for Kolb. We gave up way too much bidding against oursevles for an unproven talent. I would have rather waited and picked up a player like Flynn as a free agent. But I'm not going to anoint either Flynn or Wilson as a better player than Skelton until they play some meaningful games
 

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I'll take a wait and see stance. It was only a couple of years ago that some people on here were pissed that we lost out on getting Charlie Whitehurst and we saw how that ended up. Flynn and Wilson could be no different. However, I will say that I was against the trade we made for Kolb. We gave up way too much bidding against oursevles for an unproven talent. I would have rather waited and picked up a player like Flynn as a free agent. But I'm not going to anoint either Flynn or Wilson as a better player than Skelton until they play some meaningful games

I would love to see you unearth any thread where people were "pissed" we "lost out" on Clipboard Jesus.
 

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Don't discount how much teams struggle traveling to Seattle. Between the travel schedule and the noise, Seattle is a very tough place to play no matter how good the team is. I would not be shocked to see them split the New England and Green Bay games at home.
 

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Check out the ASFN meltdown when we "missed out" on Charlie Whitehurst: http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/f4/update-on-whitehurst-149458.html?highlight=Whitehurst

LOL.

Also, does anyone remember this story? http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=6586667

Two juicy takeaways:

As much as Whisenhunt was leaning toward giving up a third-round choice for Whitehurst, the Arizona coach sensed Anderson was the right choice when Whitehurst called Whisenhunt and said he preferred the Seahawks' opportunity and their two-year, $8 million deal. The Cardinals saved the draft choice and lost the season, going 5-11 with Anderson.

I remember sensing that going to prom with Mulli's sister was the right choice when the captain of the cheerleading team said "no" when I asked her.

Also, John Clayton is a dummy:

The Cardinals play in the highly suspect NFC West. Plugging in Kolb and his 60 percent accuracy should put the Cardinals -- at the very worst -- in the middle of the league for quarterback play. Orton could probably do the same.

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If Kolb eventually becomes as good as Schaub, the Cardinals' offensive problems are resolved for years. At the very least, he should be able to bring them to the middle of the pack, which justifies the trade.
 

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I would love to see you unearth any thread where people were "pissed" we "lost out" on Clipboard Jesus.

Of course people did the 'we didn't get him so we're glad we didn't' act, but don't pretend like the majority of this board wasn't jocking to get him. I was nearly banned because I was going absolutely crazy arguing against acquiring him at any cost.
 

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Of course people did the 'we didn't get him so we're glad we didn't' act, but don't pretend like the majority of this board wasn't jocking to get him. I was nearly banned because I was going absolutely crazy arguing against acquiring him at any cost.

I just bumped the 18 page thread where people are going back and forth. Doesn't seem like there was a lot of appetite for him outside of the usual suspects who will excuse or fall in line behind whatever the personnel department decides to do. :shrug:

It was interesting to see Matt Leinart naysayers back in January 2010. I really didn't want that stuff to be true. If you can find some people who were legitimately pissed that we didn't trade a 3rd rounder for Whitehurst, and not just nonplussed or relieved, I'd love to see them.
 

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