Skelton or Kolb pt. II

[Black Jesus]

Okay, so the last vote was jumping between 55%-60% in favor of Skelton, and that was prior to this start.

Skelton showed a lot to me, and I am sure others on this board as well. Yes he made some mistakes, but made up for it with pocket poise and clutch throws in the 4th quarter.

I think this question is a no-brainer, but who do you want to see start next week at San Francisco?

 

[az1965]

SKELTON!

 

[WisconsinCard]

I voted for JS last week and I did it again.

 

[WisconsinCard]

As far as the investment the team has made in KK, that means nothing to me. Its not my money...I am just a fan of the team and I want to win and that is what JS is doing right now.

 

[Chopper0080]

If he is healthy, Kolb. (but Skelton has made it much closer than I ever thought that he would.)

 

[Black Jesus]

Kevin Kolb is a SUNK COST, you can not make any decision based upon past money spent.

That is business 101. You make decisions based upon what is best for your organization MOVING FORWARD.

 

[Phrazbit]

We wasted a pick, a player and money on Kolb, but it only makes the mistake worse if they keep running him out there and waste time that could be spent developing Skelton.

 

[az1965]

If he is healthy, Kolb.

why?

 

[Mainstreet]

I'll stick with Skelton. It's not how much a player is paid or where he is drafted.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

Kolb is a girl who runs 15 yards back to throw and has complete panic attacks behind this line. Skelton has proved he is the man so far 2 fourth quarter comeback team Skelton!

 

[Black Jesus]

This vote is much closer to what I thought it was going to be going into this week.

Too many people on here are concerned about future money investment... It is a sunk cost!

 

[AzStevenCal]

This vote is much closer to what I thought it was going to be going into this week.

Too many people on here are concerned about future money investment... It is a sunk cost!

I think that's an assumption on your part. Just because someone chooses Kolb over Skelton doesn't mean they are doing so only because of money. And the only part of the Kolb equation that represents a sunk cost is DRC, a 2nd round pick and a small part of his contract. Unless we jettison him today, he is far from a sunk cost.

Right now, starting Skelton over a healthy Kolb could wreak havoc upon Kolb's confidence and therefore his future value. If you still believe he can develop into a strong QB it makes sense to protect his value as an asset. If you don't believe he has it in him, it's definitely time to see if Skelton has a future as a starter. The price we paid to get him might enter the discussion but there are other factors to consider.

Steve

 

[ASUCHRIS]

2-0 vs 1-6. Is there really a question?

 

[AZ Native]

I believe we need to go with Kolb if he is healthy. Sure starting Skelton is the popular, flavor of the week, start. But really folks, we are not going anywhere this year. We brought Kevin in to play, let him play this year and see what we have. Then next year we will deal with it. It's not just the $, not just the trade, it's giving him a fair shot to show us what he has.

 

[Unsterblich856]

Sunk cost my ass, Fitz wouldn't have resigned if we hadn't made the trade. Now that Fitz is locked up, Kolb can go take MMA lessons or something and let Skelton lead the team to victories.

 

[TRW]

Got to go with Skelton now. 2-0 trumps well-paid QB feelings.

But, I think Whis will probably start Kolb if he's healthy.

 

[Mainstreet]

I think that's an assumption on your part. Just because someone chooses Kolb over Skelton doesn't mean they are doing so only because of money. And the only part of the Kolb equation that represents a sunk cost is DRC, a 2nd round pick and a small part of his contract. Unless we jettison him today, he is far from a sunk cost.

Right now, starting Skelton over a healthy Kolb could wreak havoc upon Kolb's confidence and therefore his future value. If you still believe he can develop into a strong QB it makes sense to protect his value as an asset. If you don't believe he has it in him, it's definitely time to see if Skelton has a future as a starter. The price we paid to get him might enter the discussion but there are other factors to consider.

Steve

I'm more concerned about putting the best QB on the field rather than protecting assets. Actually if Kolb is not going to perform well, he might have more value sitting on the bench. His upside might still pique some teams interest.

 

[az jam]

I voted for Skelton. I think that we need to give Kolb another week of rest for his injury and also see if Kolb can continue his hot streak of winning. If Kolb is healthy, I would not have him as inactive but have him as the backup.

 

[AzStevenCal]

2-0 vs 1-6. Is there really a question?

Not for me there isn't. Skelton looks like he has an outside chance to be a quality starter. Kolb simply scares me. Still, I do think there's a chance that we haven't seen the real Kolb to date. I say that only because no one in their right mind would have traded for the guy we've seen thus far. If the coaching staff still believes in Kolb after everything they've seen then they have to give him his best chance to succeed. Destroying his confidence might not be the best way to accomplish that. If it were up to me though, I'd much prefer to watch Skelton play than Kolb.

Steve

 

[Phrazbit]

Sunk cost my ass, Fitz wouldn't have resigned if we hadn't made the trade. Now that Fitz is locked up, Kolb can go take MMA lessons or something and let Skelton lead the team to victories.

I dont even agree with that. Obviously its impossible to prove one way or the other. But I doubt Fitz turns down the gigantic contract they gave him trade or no trade.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I dont even agree with that. Obviously its impossible to prove one way or the other. But I doubt Fitz turns down the gigantic contract they gave him trade or no trade.

So you don't think he could have received a similar contract elsewhere? I don't think he would have re-signed unless we brought in a QB that he believed in (Kolb or someone else). You're right, it's impossible to prove one way or the other but from all the things he's said and all the things that supposedly leaked from his camp, we were at serious risk to lose him.

Steve

 

[Phrazbit]

So you don't think he could have received a similar contract elsewhere? I don't think he would have re-signed unless we brought in a QB that he believed in (Kolb or someone else). You're right, it's impossible to prove one way or the other but from all the things he's said and all the things that supposedly leaked from his camp, we were at serious risk to lose him.

Steve

No. The teams with stud QBs couldnt have afforded to give him that contract, and I dont see him running off to another rebuilding team with QB questions. Like I said, its a hard thing to argue, it cant be proven one way or the other, but in my opinion loyalty, familiarity and money would have won out and he stays. And Skelton's rate of development, I think, makes it all the more likely.

 

[seesred]

Skelton deserves to start next Sunday period. The kid can make plays.

GBR
40

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I voted for JS last week and I did it again.

+1

Double Deuce

Nothing will ever be the same.

 

[kerouac9]

It's amazing how quickly people have rallied around Kevin Kolb, who has shown nothing except the ability to convince a coaching staff that loved Max Hall that he had talent.

You hear these EXACT SAME COMMENTS made six years ago--about Josh McCown.