So what exactly did Sam Keller do?

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/justin_doom/11/28/dooms.day/1.html

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One thing that did happen, and which probably will define Koetter's entire ASU tenure, is his flip-flop decision to start Sam Keller at quarterback and then instead go with Rudy Carpenter.

"Most of everything that got out there initially was not true," the source said. "And it got perpetuated and repeated, and once that train gets rolling, you can't stop it."

Carpenter, a sophomore, never threatened to transfer, as was written on a number of Web sites. And the Sun Devils' Leadership Group, a collection of about 15 juniors and seniors, didn't go to Koetter and demand that Carpenter start.

According to the source, the Saturday after ASU's final fall scrimmage, one day after Keller was named the team's No. 1 QB, Koetter was informed of something that would force him to instead go with Carpenter.

"I cannot tell you where it's from, and I cannot tell you what it is," the source said. "We will never, ever tell that because it's private information regarding Sam, and we would never, ever say anything to put him in a bad light because he's a minor."

Koetter, in his regularly scheduled Leadership Group meeting that fateful Saturday, informed the team's veterans that he was going to have to make a very tough decision, which would be announced to the media on Sunday.

"He would have loved to have had that information prior to Friday," the source said. "If he'd have had that information, he wouldn't have made Sam the starter in the first place. But he didn't get it until Saturday. People assume that the information came from players. It did not. The players discussed this for the first time in their meeting. The players discussed it more and more, and even newer information came out, and everybody put two and two together -- and I can't really go further because I can't say what it is -- but it was as series of events that just happened. Dirk fell on that sword, took all the blame, all the heat, but he protected Sam and his family."

"Sam really wanted to stay," the source said, "but ultimately his father thought it was best that he transferred."

Whatever Keller's misdeed, which no one would confirm on the record, it apparently was bad enough that he immediately lost his starting spot at ASU, but not so bad that Nebraska didn't welcome him with open arms. More than a little bit curious. Is there any way Nebraska officials don't know the whole story? Do they care? Don't we? ASU is a public school. Sure, boosters kick in millions, but don't taxpayers deserve some sort of explanation?

Koetter, the source added, also told him that another reason he'd never disclose what Keller did was because "if Sam wishes to transfer, I don't want to say because I don't want him to not be able to transfer. If the other people knew, they might not take him."

"If you go back and watch Sam's first press conference at Nebraska," the source continued, "when they made him available to the media, watch how that goes. Sam is very humble, he's very appreciative, praising Arizona State for his time there, he enjoyed it, the coaches, the players. It was not the bitter guy [saying] 'I'm transferring because I've got to get out of there.' That tells you a lot right there, that maybe he was guilty of something and he just needed to be quiet."


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Weird it says Keller is a minor but I think he's 22 and was 21 when he left ASU so I guess it must have occurred before he turned 21 whatever it was?
 

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From what I have been told previous to his leaving was that he was involved in some pretty hard partying. Now, I do not know if that was his reason for demotion, but it seems to have been what the concerns of the players were.
 

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From what I have been told previous to his leaving was that he was involved in some pretty hard partying. Now, I do not know if that was his reason for demotion, but it seems to have been what the concerns of the players were.

I thought that was a requirement to go to ASU, at least it was when I was there.
 

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It is, but when people are saying "Bet the house against ASU today, Keller was up all night doing coke at 'x' fraternity house" there may be a problem
 

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Come on now.....who didn't do a little coke at an ASU frat house??
 

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It is, but when people are saying "Bet the house against ASU today, Keller was up all night doing coke at 'x' fraternity house" there may be a problem


Haha... well, I've seen pictures of him doing such an act.... so i dont know... call them rumors if you'd like, but I've seen proof of such things..
 
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Not that doing coke is a good thing - but how does that cost him his starting job? It has to be something else. I wish someone would just say exactly what it was. Probably won't be a big deal anymore. It happened months ago - he is no longer here.

If it still was a big deal now, the authorities would be involved - and we would know for sure. Gambling, committing crimes such as Theft, Rape, Armed Robbery, etc... the police/FBI would be involved, but they are not. Not to mention possible NCAA sanctions for cheating in class, taking money from boosters...
 

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If he is coming to practice strung out on coke I think it would cost him his starting job especially after the performance Carpenter put up last year.

The players wanted Carpenter simply put. I don't think Keller had a single incident that led to this. I think more so who the players wanted starting caused them to sell Keller out.
 
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If he is coming to practice strung out on coke I think it would cost him his starting job especially after the performance Carpenter put up last year.

The players wanted Carpenter simply put. I don't think Keller had a single incident that led to this. I think more so who the players wanted starting caused them to sell Keller out.

But why would they say because he was a minor, doesn't matter coke is illegal at any age?

If it was gambling I'd think ASU would be obligated to report it to the NCAA immediately, especially ASU after the whole Hedake thing in the past, so it can't be gambling.

Maybe Keller ate some of Dennis Green's famous pie?
 
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If he did something that serious it should have been brought out in the open. Could not have any respect for him as a coach after that flip flop
 

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If he did something that serious it should have been brought out in the open. Could not have any respect for him as a coach after that flip flop

Exactly. He should've been kicked off the team if that was the case.

Koetter botched it, no matter how you look at it.
 
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