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Getting that many turnovers and still losing is just the same as getting beat 65 to nothing but maybe even worse. Miller at least should never be seen on the sideline again. If Whis is responsible for some of the calls, and put us in this position for the handling of this team's depth and talent on offense...then this is the first time, being a Whis supporter, I'm saying he might need to be let go. This is unacceptable. Give this team over to Horton. I do not think being a good DC qualifies for a good head coach, but I would not want to lose him and willing to roll the dice. This is like Gruden with Tampa now. He became the problem with the Bucs and his Superbowl win kept him longer around than he should have stayed. Time to blow this up but keep the defense intact.
 

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I want to know what were their adjustments at half time. What pitch left and get stuck 3 yrs behind the line. That play was done over and over in short yardage??

WTF - These offense coaches need to be fired for this. This is unacceptable. CKW needs to be nut punched a few time to wake up.
 
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The problem is this staff and front office. When Kolb got hurt they should have went and got a real vet for the QB position. Any decent average QB would have won this Falcon game.
 
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There was no gameplan which would work today because of the QBs we have available to us at the moment. If the Front Office offered to get a vet and Whis said no, then he needs to be fired. We will not know. There is just a bunch of bad planning on this team to face this offense adversity. They had time when they knew the position they were in and did not go and get a QB. A below average vet would be better than Skelton and Lindley.
 

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The problem is this staff and front office. When Kolb got hurt they should have went and got a real vet for the QB position. Any decent average QB would have won this Falcon game.

I think any decent average 3rd string QB would have won this game.

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Getting that many turnovers and still losing is just the same as getting beat 65 to nothing but maybe even worse. Miller at least should never be seen on the sideline again. If Whis is responsible for some of the calls, and put us in this position for the handling of this team's depth and talent on offense...then this is the first time, being a Whis supporter, I'm saying he might need to be let go. This is unacceptable. Give this team over to Horton. I do not think being a good DC qualifies for a good head coach, but I would not want to lose him and willing to roll the dice. This is like Gruden with Tampa now. He became the problem with the Bucs and his Superbowl win kept him longer around than he should have stayed. Time to blow this up but keep the defense intact.

I agree completly with this. Whiz has now lost this team for good. We have won some games in the last couple of years since Warner retired but we barely win them because we need a real Offensive Coordinator and Whiz and his "protege" are not the answer. We have to resist keeping him any longer and risk losing Horton and the super D that is now here in Az. 6 straight losses for the third year in a row...no excuses. Whiz has to go. Make Horton the Head coach. Get a real Offensive guru ...Mike Martz type...that can get Fitz into the gameplan....embaressment on Offense
 

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Terrible offensive play calling. I think Skelton would have settled down. Lindley is not the future. Whizzeredbunt is not a great coach.
 

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I agree completly with this. Whiz has now lost this team for good. We have won some games in the last couple of years since Warner retired but we barely win them because we need a real Offensive Coordinator and Whiz and his "protege" are not the answer. We have to resist keeping him any longer and risk losing Horton and the super D that is now here in Az. 6 straight losses for the third year in a row...no excuses. Whiz has to go. Make Horton the Head coach. Get a real Offensive guru ...Mike Martz type...that can get Fitz into the gameplan....embaressment on Offense

I don't know if it's Whiz or not but I'd be willing to see a clean sweep of the broom after this season, Horton notwithstanding. Whether it's the FO or the coaches that have put us into the QB and O-Line starved hole, we'll probably never know for sure but something needs to change. I'll be fine if we just fire Grimm and Miller but that's the bare minimum AFAIC.

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I don't know if it's Whiz or not but I'd be willing to see a clean sweep of the broom after this season, Horton notwithstanding. Whether it's the FO or the coaches that have put us into the QB and O-Line starved hole, we'll probably never know for sure but something needs to change. I'll be fine if we just fire Grimm and Miller but that's the bare minimum AFAIC.

Steve

That would be bare minimum...but after todays loss and how they lost there 6th game in a row for the third year in a row....Clean sweep has to happen. Whiz has now lost this team. They will no longer buy in to anything he is selling. He has failed. Horton still has the D playing but not for long after todays Offensive showing. Make Horton the coach and find us a top Offensive Coordinator. Winning takes care of alot. Losing takes care of the rest and makes getting rid of Whiz easy. We will be a better team for it. Bidwills make it happen
 
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Whis has not lost this team. I would bet you we will get the same effort from this defense the rest of the year, that is one of Whisenhunt's strengths but something has to be done with this offense. Picking up a vet QB, even the ones available, would be better than what we have now and hopefully the front office realizes this.
 

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Whis has not lost this team. I would bet you we will get the same effort from this defense the rest of the year, that is one of Whisenhunt's strengths but something has to be done with this offense. Picking up a vet QB, even the ones available, would be better than what we have now and hopefully the front office realizes this.

After that last forced Turnover I said the Offense better win this game or the D will see that for all there efforts the results remain the same. They lose because the Offensive coaches dont know what there doing. They play for Horton not Whiz. Fitz is even getting that long stare defeated look...time to make a change before he is looking for greener pastures. None of these guys want to keep losing like they are. Need to do what it takes to keep Horton. Whiz won't be able to. He wasn't even his first choice.
 

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