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Didn’t you recently mock another poster for saying he knew about a film before he saw it because he had “researched “ it extensively? Sounds like that’s what YOU are saying now.
Your arguments in that case are about the merits of the film (whether it sucks or not). I’m talking about a film that claims to be truthful but has proven to be not.

Again, you don’t see the distinction.
 

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All of the media has their talking points they are dispersing. So much jouranlisming.

Hollywood doesn't seem to want to give this issue exposure. Probably hits a bit close to home.
 

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All of the media has their talking points they are dispersing. So much jouranlisming.

Hollywood doesn't seem to want to give this issue exposure. Probably hits a bit close to home.
JC are you serious? Now you’re accusing us of being child traffickers??
 

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Your arguments in that case are about the merits of the film (whether it sucks or not). I’m talking about a film that claims to be truthful but has proven to be not. Again, you don’t see the distinction.
But you liked The Woman King, right?
 

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Some people manufacturing reasons not to see this is disappointing but then again those same people aren’t going to go into it without any bias and the film won’t hit them as deeply as it does most. Very powerful film that should be seen without distractions.

Or maybe you have your own bias which allows you to be more receptive and have the film hit harder than most?

There is no manufactured reasoning.

If anything, there has been very light pushback against this - especially considering the outrage machine against other recent films

The film by all accounts does a good job distancing itself from Q and the potential preachiness

However, the film has also given the face of the movie a giant microphone and he's leaned in to fully use it for Q

I personally find Q to not only be distasteful, but also dangerous.

It's not a far line that when someone who buys into Q and into the elements about satanists elites running a global child sex trafficking ring to harvest the blood and organs for adrenochrome ends up being the lead actor in a movie about child sex trafficking that there is s chance of some QAnon sneaking in

To the films credit, that does not seem to be the case

Again though, it does give a microphone to the lead actor to speak on the topic and push Q conspiracies, which are dangerous

Does anyone find any of this stuff sane?!?

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There is an important conversation to be had

That conversation has zero to do with an adrenochrome thirsty cabal and the more you associate that, the less credible your conversation becomes

It's also no coincidence people like wayward fan are trying to take a victory lap that it outperformed Indiana Jones - even if it takes a lot of stretching too make that claim. It also beat Spidey that day and a bunch of other movies...... So why single out Indy?

He also spots the common refrain that Hollywood and the elites wanted to suppress and kill this movie because it exposes them

We're one post about Chris Cornell and others being silenced from the bingo card.........
 

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Or maybe you have your own bias which allows you to be more receptive and have the film hit harder than most?

There is no manufactured reasoning.

If anything, there has been very light pushback against this - especially considering the outrage machine against other recent films

The film by all accounts does a good job distancing itself from Q and the potential preachiness

However, the film has also given the face of the movie a giant microphone and he's leaned in to fully use it for Q

I personally find Q to not only be distasteful, but also dangerous.

It's not a far line that when someone who buys into Q and into the elements about satanists elites running a global child sex trafficking ring to harvest the blood and organs for adrenochrome ends up being the lead actor in a movie about child sex trafficking that there is s chance of some QAnon sneaking in

To the films credit, that does not seem to be the case

Again though, it does give a microphone to the lead actor to speak on the topic and push Q conspiracies, which are dangerous

Does anyone find any of this stuff sane?!?

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There is an important conversation to be had

That conversation has zero to do with an adrenochrome thirsty cabal and the more you associate that, the less credible your conversation becomes

It's also no coincidence people like wayward fan are trying to take a victory lap that it outperformed Indiana Jones - even if it takes a lot of stretching too make that claim. It also beat Spidey that day and a bunch of other movies...... So why single out Indy?

He also spots the common refrain that Hollywood and the elites wanted to suppress and kill this movie because it exposes them

We're one post about Chris Cornell and others being silenced from the bingo card.........
Haven’t seen the movie yet, so I won’t judge it, but …

it’s ironic to call sex trafficking QAnon nonsense when Epstein literally happened. I can see the doubt five years ago, but that’s not the world we live in now.
 
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Misrepresenting a true story is a big deal to some people. Not to you apparently.
Explain what part of the movie was misrepresented. The raid portion of the sting operation was actually filmed (they filmed footage of all their raids) and some actual footage was shown at the end before the credits (some faces blurred).

I read up on Tim after seeing the film and his organization has been accused by some of inflating how many they have helped, but in the film they actually under-represented the actual numbers from that real-life sting operation. Jahns even mentioned that in his review.

Criticism of the guy in general or their results does not mean anything in the film is inaccurate.
 

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It's also no coincidence people like wayward fan are trying to take a victory lap that it outperformed Indiana Jones - even if it takes a lot of stretching too make that claim. It also beat Spidey that day and a bunch of other movies...... So why single out Indy?

Beating Indy should have been more impressive since Spidy has been out for weeks and it was the first week of Indy's release. Indy should have been crushing everything if Disney and KK didn't drop the ball so hard.
 

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Lets see, should I watch this movie?

1) It is made by a religious production company and is free to view; 2) It stars an actor that makes religious movies that is a QAnon advocate; and 3) Its subject is the basis for QAnon conspiracy theories.

I think I'll pass. It may be a well-made movie and entertaining, but it is not something I will likely enjoy watching.
 

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Yeah! You go Dan! Way to show Chap that Black people also take liberties with history making movies to stick it to the lib!
… how about Erin Brockovitch?

The Blind Side?

The Founder?

“Based on a true story” is a meme at this point.
 

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Haven’t seen the movie yet, so I won’t judge it, but …

it’s ironic to call sex trafficking QAnon nonsense when Epstein literally happened. I can see the doubt five years ago, but that’s not the world we live in now.

Sex tracking =/= satanic cabal of elites harvesting organs and drinking blood for the power of adrenochrome

Don't think I should have to explain the difference, but here we are.

You can have terrible things.

You can also have unhinged conspiracies about terrible things.

Discrediting the conspiracy doesn't minimize the terrible things

The existing of a terrible thing doesn't validate the conspiracy
 

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Beating Indy should have been more impressive since Spidy has been out for weeks and it was the first week of Indy's release. Indy should have been crushing everything if Disney and KK didn't drop the ball so hard.
Indy is doing 3x this movie and is beating it again this weekend

There is a very specific reason for the Indy call out - the same reason people were up in arms about Indy to begin with

Sound is doing really well.

Just some of the cheerleaders are a bit transparently obnoxious
 

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Lets see, should I watch this movie?

1) It is made by a religious production company and is free to view; 2) It stars an actor that makes religious movies that is a QAnon advocate; and 3) Its subject is the basis for QAnon conspiracy theories.

I think I'll pass. It may be a well-made movie and entertaining, but it is not something I will likely enjoy watching.
It was actually made by 20th Century Fox years ago. Disney refused to release the movie and the production company bought it from them.
 

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Indy is doing 3x this movie and is beating it again this weekend

There is a very specific reason for the Indy call out - the same reason people were up in arms about Indy to begin with

Sound is doing really well.

Just some of the cheerleaders are a bit transparently obnoxious
Indiana Jake made $26.5M on 4,600 screens.
Sound of Freedom made $18.2M on 2,852 screens. Not sure how that works out to 3x.

Also, Sound of Freedom make $6,388/screen while Indiana Jake made $5,760/screen. So, Sound of Freedom is making more money per screen.
 

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Indiana Jake made $26.5M on 4,600 screens.
Sound of Freedom made $18.2M on 2,852 screens. Not sure how that works out to 3x.

Also, Sound of Freedom make $6,388/screen while Indiana Jake made $5,760/screen. So, Sound of Freedom is making more money per screen.

Why pick out Indy? Be honest with yourself.

Indy has made $121m, Sound at $40m

That's 3x

Per screen is a bit of a weird metric, but Indy is outperforming it there as well by a good spread
 

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I hate these cross movie fights but Indy was DOA. His appeal is with older audiences and those audiences aren't showing up for a lot of movies right now including about 40% who just want Disney to piss off.

I want to see it but again I will likely wait til Disney +

Just like the Flash, which I really want to see...in my home theater.

Your domestic top box office for 2023 so far is all family stuff because going to the movies with your kids is still magical.

#1 Mario
#2 Spiderman
#3 Guardians
#4 Little Mermaid
#5 Avatar (hilarious a 2022 movie
#6 Antman

That's it for the 200 million domestic. It's crazy
 

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And there are only 8 movies to hit 100 million in the box office.
 

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Yes I said 7 at 200 and 8 at 100 that equals 15
No you didn't.

You listed 6 that were over $200

Then says plainly "And there are only 8 movies to hit 100 million in the box office."

Not, an 8 additional - "only 8"

Which could be confusing to those who didn't check

So I clarified

ain't that serious though
 
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