Stanford's Childress works out for the Suns

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Stanford’s Childress works out for Suns

By Mike Tulumello, Tribune



By the standards of today’s NBA draft, Josh Childress is an old geezer on the backside of his career.
Childress, who is expected to be taken in the top 10 in Wednesday’s draft, has played — get this — three years of college basketball!

And this may be a reason why his stock has risen lately. In a draft based more and more on potential than past performance, anybody who drafts Childress won’t be taking nearly as much of a chance as they would with a high school player.

With Childress, who worked out for the Suns on Wednesday morning, "We can see what we’d get," said Suns coach Mike D’Antoni.

His draft value also is going up because he’s played well in various pre-draft workouts.

He is seen as a versatile, athletic player who has the quickness and long arms to defend players on the perimeter. He also is considered a good rebounder and shot-blocker, and he can hit both the mid-range and 3-point shot.

And he might be better suited to the pro game than to the highly structured system he played in at Stanford the past three years.

In the past few weeks, "I’ve shown I can play in a fastbreak system," Childress said. "I can bang with guys and do all the things that were considered my weaknesses."

In considering the 6-foot-8, 205-pound Childress, "He’s somebody you would take on talent," D’Antoni said. "He can play."

It doesn’t hurt that Childress is well spoken and appears squeaky clean.

"Everybody likes him," D’Antoni said.

The downside: The Suns are loaded at off-guard and small forward, the spots he would play.

"This team is stacked with wings," Childress said. "That’s one of the things I’m thinking about."

Childress figures he could be traded if the Suns draft him.

The Suns have said they might trade the pick and get out of the draft entirely to save salary-cap space.

Such a decision could be made at the last minute, D’Antoni suggested, if all the pIayers the Suns have targeted are gone by the time they draft at No. 7.
But as of now, he said, "I’d be surprised if we don’t use the pick."

BONUS SHOT: Childress might not be around at No. 7. The expansion Charlotte Bobcats, who draft No. 4, are scheduled to take a second look at him in the next few days.
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The downside: The Suns are loaded at off-guard and small forward, the spots he would play.

"This team is stacked with wings," Childress said. "That’s one of the things I’m thinking about."

A "loaded" team doesn't have to play its starters 40+ minutes a game.
 

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George O'Brien said:
A "loaded" team doesn't have to play its starters 40+ minutes a game.


Excellent point.

The Suns have some very good players, they don't have enough effective players off the bench. I think Childress could be an effective player off the bench for the Suns next season.
 

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I like Childress. I think he is a good all-around player. He's a good defender. He has a nice midrange game and can probably get the NBA three-pointer consistently. He's also a good rebounder. He would be a nice sixth man. However if we are considering size he is going to be quite small if he plays any small forward. He is only 6'7" in shoes and just 205 pounds.

I wouldn't be disappointed with him at #7. Then again I have to admit I wouldn't be terribly excited either.

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Joe Mama said:
I like Childress. I think he is a good all-around player. He's a good defender. He has a nice midrange game and can probably get the NBA three-pointer consistently. He's also a good rebounder. He would be a nice sixth man. However if we are considering size he is going to be quite small if he plays any small forward. He is only 6'7" in shoes and just 205 pounds.

I wouldn't be disappointed with him at #7. Then again I have to admit I wouldn't be terribly excited either.

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True, as a #7 he a safe, if unspectacular, choice in this draft. Whoever made the comparsion to Battier I think it was not a bad one. I do think Childress is a little more athletic and will be a better NBA player than Battier however.
Childress is a complementary player in the NBA, he does everything but is not spactacular at anything.
 

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Deng is a much better comparison to Battier. He's bigger and less polished, but both of them are good, unspectacular players.

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Joe Mama said:
Deng is a much better comparison to Battier. He's bigger and less polished, but both of them are good, unspectacular players.

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Deng is so much longer than Battier, though. As far as game goes, I'll take your word for it, since I didn't pay much attention to Deng this year--I assumed that he would go before the Suns' pick and that they wouldn't be interested anyway, which is how things seem to have turned out.


I made the Battier comparison in terms of effectiveness rather than game. Childress has so few strengths or weaknesses that I can't think of any NBA players he reminds me of--I'm sure they were out there at some time, but they probably made so little impact on me that I can't remember any of them. Bobby Phills, maybe? Nah, probably not...
 

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Joe Mama said:
Deng is a much better comparison to Battier. He's bigger and less polished, but both of them are good, unspectacular players.

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Deng is more athletic and tougher and he has a special body-structure.

He is a cross of Kirilenko and Fox.
 
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When I watched him I did not think Deng was a really that athletic. I certainly would not have said he was noticeably more athletic than Battier. Deng is definitely not fast. The quicker NBA small forwards will go right by him. Battier is probably not the best comparison. I was referring more to the fact that it's unlikely Deng will be a bust, but I'll still don't think he's ever going to be a great NBA player.

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No, Deng is not that athletic, I agree.

I can't find a better comparison for him than Battier. I simply can't believe how can draft sites compare Deng to Pierce and Grant Hill.
 

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hcsilla said:
No, Deng is not that athletic, I agree.

I can't find a better comparison for him than Battier. I simply can't believe how can draft sites compare Deng to Pierce and Grant Hill.

Deng is totally different from Paul Pierce or Grant Hill. Eric Williams is not a bad comparison.

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I agree that Shane Battier is a complementary type player, but he is a lot more effective than Eric Williams.

Shane Battier
Memphis Grizzlies
Position: F-G
Height: 6-8 Weight: 220
College: Duke '01
Player file | Team stats

2003-04 Statistics
PPG 8.5
RPG 3.8
APG 1.3
SPG 1.28
BPG .73
FG% .446
FT% .732
3P% .349
MPG 24.6


Eric Williams
Cleveland Cavaliers
Position: F-G
Height: 6-8 Weight: 220
College: Providence '95
Player file | Team stats

2003-04 Statistics
PPG 10.0
RPG 4.0
APG 1.7
SPG .99
BPG .13
FG% .386
FT% .760
3P% .276
MPG 26.6

They have similar overall stats, but Williams is a very poor shooter while Battier is not too bad.
 

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George O'Brien said:
I agree that Shane Battier is a complementary type player, but he is a lot more effective than Eric Williams.
Who said that he isn't?

But Deng bodytype and play is closer to Williams' than to Battier's.

Deng has long arms too and at this point he is more of a post player than a perimeter player.
Battier is a more fluid athlete and he is a better ballhandler and shooter. Williams' defensive toughness and a bit strange penetration and one-on-one play is very similar to Deng's.
I do think that Deng will become a better rebounder and shotblocker than Williams.
 

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