Stanton surgery

[GatorAZ]

Maybe you guys are right, I'm sure 31 other teams are just dying to get their hands on Drew (lowest completion % in the NFL) Stanton.

Huh? Is any team dying to get any backup QB?

 

[TigToad]

I agree that Stanton is a good back-up. However, he is not a good starter. He did a fantastic job winning the games he could.

Palmer starts: 6-0
Stanton starts: 5-3.

Seems like a good back up to me.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

For some reason I don't think Stanton really wants to be a starter. Seems like he is content with just being a back-up QB. Good for a game or two but gets overwhelmed with anymore than that.

No way. There's not a player in the league that doesn't want to be a starter. Remember, he came with the intention of starting until the Cards acquired Palmer. Accepting your role as a backup does not mean you don't want to be the guy.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I agree that Stanton is a good back-up. However, he is not a good starter. He did a fantastic job winning the games he could.

Palmer starts: 6-0
Stanton starts: 5-3.

Seems like a good back up to me.

Exactly. I think most teams would be ecstatic to go 5-3 with their backup playing.

 

[Stout]

Exactly. I think most teams would be ecstatic to go 5-3 with their backup playing.

Except he was below average and was NOT winning the games. The DEFENSE was winning games. He was simply not losing them, which is admittedly better than Lindley by a mile. Granted he's a backup, but let's not pretend he worked wonders for us or anything. He had a game where he needed the defense to absolutely bail him out (Detroit) despite throwing two TDs.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Except he was below average and was NOT winning the games. The DEFENSE was winning games. He was simply not losing them, which is admittedly better than Lindley by a mile. Granted he's a backup, but let's not pretend he worked wonders for us or anything. He had a game where he needed the defense to absolutely bail him out (Detroit) despite throwing two TDs.

He was below average when compared to a starter, which he is not. I'd guess his numbers were above average for a backup.

As for the Lions game, he drove them down for two quick scores and a 14 point lead at home and threw for 306 yards. He did his job that game. I'm not saying he's great by any means but he's a more than adequate backup.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

Huh? Is any team dying to get any backup QB?

We should have.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

We should have.

What QB would you suggest that would have come in and produced a 5-3 record like Stanton did? That doesn't even include stepping in and locking down the game versus St.Louis when CP went down.

 

[ajcardfan]

Except he was below average and was NOT winning the games. The DEFENSE was winning games. He was simply not losing them, which is admittedly better than Lindley by a mile. Granted he's a backup, but let's not pretend he worked wonders for us or anything. He had a game where he needed the defense to absolutely bail him out (Detroit) despite throwing two TDs.

Nah, not all true. His 2 TDs to Smokey to beat the Niners were both beautiful as he used his eyes to move the safeties on both. His TDs in the Lions game were nice plays. The throw to Jaron Brown to take the lead on the Chiefs was as good as any throw a Cards QB has made all year including Palmer. The bomb to Smokey to take the lead on the Rams was a beauty as well.

Combine that with overall taking care of the ball.... not much more can be expected from a #2. He did his job and got us into the playoffs by making more good plays than bad in the winnable games.

 

[MrYeahBut]

Nah, not all true. His 2 TDs to Smokey to beat the Niners were both beautiful as he used his eyes to move the safeties on both. His TDs in the Lions game were nice plays. The throw to Jaron Brown to take the lead on the Chiefs was as good as any throw a Cards QB has made all year including Palmer. The bomb to Smokey to take the lead on the Rams was a beauty as well.

Combine that with overall taking care of the ball.... not much more can be expected from a #2. He did his job and got us into the playoffs by making more good plays than bad in the winnable games.

On top of that, I wish to heck he would have played last Sunday, plays this coming Sunday and beyond.

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[Hollywood]

Maybe you guys are right, I'm sure 31 other teams are just dying to get their hands on Drew (lowest completion % in the NFL) Stanton.

Im sure that when you are the GM of an NFL team you will be starting Tom Brady at QB with Peyton Manning as his back up but until then we are just going to have to live with Stanton coming off the bench to manage the games for us.

 

[ajcardfan]

Im sure that when you are the GM of an NFL team you will be starting Tom Brady at QB with Peyton Manning as his back up but until then we are just going to have to live with Stanton coming off the bench to manage the games for us.

Yeah, a Philip Rivers and Drew Brees situation comes up once in a blue moon. Viable #2s, who can potentially be franchise players elsewhere are very damn rare. A lot of times they are about the same as the starter, because the starter kind of sucks. Both being excellent... yeah very, very rare.

 

[Hollywood]

Yeah, a Philip Rivers and Drew Brees situation comes up once in a blue moon. Viable #2s, who can potentially be franchise players elsewhere are very damn rare. A lot of times they are about the same as the starter, because the starter kind of sucks. Both being excellent... yeah very, very rare.

Chris Chandler and Steve Beurlein immediately jumped into my head when I read this.

 

[ajcardfan]

Chris Chandler and Steve Beurlein immediately jumped into my head when I read this.

I've been racking my brain to think of a comparable pair in the NFL now, but I can't come up with one. A lot of these current #2s have never really played much or are proven mediocre already.

 

[Stout]

He was below average when compared to a starter, which he is not. I'd guess his numbers were above average for a backup.

As for the Lions game, he drove them down for two quick scores and a 14 point lead at home and threw for 306 yards. He did his job that game. I'm not saying he's great by any means but he's a more than adequate backup.

He also did his damndest to put the team in the hole with two terrible interceptions. If the defense hadn't bailed him out, those 2 TDs would have been enough to lose 17-14.

Not that I'm down on him. He is a backup, and he's been okay as a backup. When posters give him full credit for 5-3? Yeah, no, that's when I had to call some BS.

Nah, not all true. His 2 TDs to Smokey to beat the Niners were both beautiful as he used his eyes to move the safeties on both. His TDs in the Lions game were nice plays. The throw to Jaron Brown to take the lead on the Chiefs was as good as any throw a Cards QB has made all year including Palmer. The bomb to Smokey to take the lead on the Rams was a beauty as well.

Combine that with overall taking care of the ball.... not much more can be expected from a #2. He did his job and got us into the playoffs by making more good plays than bad in the winnable games.

I'm not bagging on Stanton as much as I'm bagging on posters saying STANTON led us to a 5-3 record. Stanton didn't LOSE five games, and managed those games; the DEFENSE won us five games, let's be honest.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

He also did his damndest to put the team in the hole with two terrible interceptions. If the defense hadn't bailed him out, those 2 TDs would have been enough to lose 17-14.

Not that I'm down on him. He is a backup, and he's been okay as a backup. When posters give him full credit for 5-3? Yeah, no, that's when I had to call some BS.




I'm not bagging on Stanton as much as I'm bagging on posters saying STANTON led us to a 5-3 record. Stanton didn't LOSE five games, and managed those games; the DEFENSE won us five games, let's be honest.

Getting on him for the Detroit shouldn't be the game you choose. He had a 91.4 rating and a 70.5 QBR for that game which was his second best game of the year, next to SF, stats-wise. Now the Atlanta game, there's a different story. Still, his only 3 losses were on the road at Denver, Seattle, and Atlanta. I realize the defense played well but he did his part by not turning the ball over and running the offense at least well enough to secure victories.

I think Stanton is on the same level of QB as a Brian Hoyer. They're both going to have good games and can get you some wins but will get exposed over the long run. And, that's what I want out of the backup.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

Getting on him for the Detroit shouldn't be the game you choose. He had a 91.4 rating and a 70.5 QBR for that game which was his second best game of the year, next to SF, stats-wise. Now the Atlanta game, there's a different story. Still, his only 3 losses were on the road at Denver, Seattle, and Atlanta. I realize the defense played well but he did his part by not turning the ball over and running the offense at least well enough to secure victories.

I think Stanton is on the same level of QB as a Brian Hoyer. They're both going to have good games and can get you some wins but will get exposed over the long run. And, that's what I want out of the backup.

Good on you for having lower expectations.
I want a Steve Young/ Aaron Rodgers type of backup.

Because that would mean for the first time ever, we drafted not one but TWO NFL caliber QB's

And the younger of the two had time to learn.
Although I'm not greedy, I'll be happy if we ever draft ONE decent QB.

 

[BW52]

He also did his damndest to put the team in the hole with two terrible interceptions. If the defense hadn't bailed him out, those 2 TDs would have been enough to lose 17-14.

Not that I'm down on him. He is a backup, and he's been okay as a backup. When posters give him full credit for 5-3? Yeah, no, that's when I had to call some BS.




I'm not bagging on Stanton as much as I'm bagging on posters saying STANTON led us to a 5-3 record. Stanton didn't LOSE five games, and managed those games; the DEFENSE won us five games, let's be honest.

OTOH if the defense had played a little better the Cards might be 6-2 under Stanton.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

OTOH if the defense had played a little better the Cards might be 6-2 under Stanton.

Well yeah... If the defense would have pitched shutouts we would be undefeated!

Stupid defense!

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

I wouldn't be surprised to hear a tornado took out the stadium and half the staff. What a total BS bad luck year. I give up man. F!!

If we were a perennial 10+ winning team from now on, I'd be one happy camper just to experience a chance at the playoffs. We over achieved this season with who we had left standing. We ran out of bullets and now the chambers empty. It happens. IF we lose in the first round, there is nothing to be ashamed of. Except maybe the QB.

 

[WildBB]

Good on you for having lower expectations.
I want a Steve Young/ Aaron Rodgers type of backup.

Because that would mean for the first time ever, we drafted not one but TWO NFL caliber QB's

And the younger of the two had time to learn.
Although I'm not greedy, I'll be happy if we ever draft ONE decent QB.

L. Thomas isn't that guy.....yet

 

[Stout]

OTOH if the defense had played a little better the Cards might be 6-2 under Stanton.

Yeah, let's bag on the defense. Let's give Stanton more credit for the wins than the defense lol

 

[WisconsinCard]

Just a guess on my part, but I suspect he had some sort of steriod injection that caused the infection. I wonder why he would seek an "outside" treatment when he has access to the best medical care one could get? Unless it was a procedure that is not league approved.

 

[Chopper0080]

I disagree. I think Stanton is a good backup QB.

If a guy can't stay healthy, he isn't a very good backup QB. He got injured against the Broncos and then injured against the Rams. He hasn't been able to stay healthy whenever he has had to start multiple games.

I would argue that Stanton is a terrible backup because he can't stay on the field.

 

[Hollywood]

If a guy can't stay healthy, he isn't a very good backup QB. He got injured against the Broncos and then injured against the Rams. He hasn't been able to stay healthy whenever he has had to start multiple games.

I would argue that Stanton is a terrible backup because he can't stay on the field.

By that logic half our team is terrible.