Steve Nash Trade ideas 2012

[JCSunsfan]

I know Nash is not going to be traded unless he wants to be. But we are going to be bad this year. It is not how Steve should end his career. This thread is to list possible trade scenarios for Nash should he have a change of heart.

My first one is:

Nash to Boston for Jeff Green, Shaquille O'Neal's rights, and a Boston unprotected first round pick.

 

[SirStefan32]

I know Nash is not going to be traded unless he wants to be. But we are going to be bad this year. It is not how Steve should end his career. This thread is to list possible trade scenarios for Nash should he have a change of heart.

My first one is:

Nash to Boston for Jeff Green, Shaquille O'Neal's rights, and a Boston unprotected first round pick.

Orlando for a future unprotected first round pick (2013, for example.)

In all seriousness, though, nobody is going to offer anything of any real value for a washed out 38 year-old.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Orlando for a future unprotected first round pick (2013, for example.)

In all seriousness, though, nobody is going to offer anything of any real value for a washed out 38 year-old.

I think it's a long shot also but I don't think he's really washed up. For me, the way you can tell he's not washed up is the simple fact that we are a completely different team when he's not in the game. He has so little value though because logic says he shouldn't have much left. Of course, logic has indicated he was at the end of his career for a few years now. Our best bet is maybe a mid-season trade with New York at the deadline. Even if Baron returns to form they could really use someone like Steve and could afford to give us a delayed 1st round pick.

Steve

 

[HooverDam]

I think in general Suns fans over value Nash, especially when we see trade proposals that suggest PHX getting an All Star or near All Star in return. Nash's age and super specific skill set, combined with him fitting on very few teams (and thus lowering his market value) all conspire to hurt the Suns.

One team that it occurred to me he might fight on is the Pacers. It may seems odd at first blush, but they were 6th in the NBA in pace last year (fitting for their name, eh?). Darren Collison is a nice PG, but Nash even at 38 is leagues better and would make Danny Granger look ridiculous.

I think the Suns should pursue something with a baseline of:

PHX sends:
Nash

Indy sends:
Collison
Jeff Foster
2012 1st round pick, Lottery protected (likely a pick in the mid 20s)

Indy as is is probably the 5th team in the East after Miami, Chicago, NY and Boston. I think getting Nash could push them up to 4th above NY or Boston and give them home court in Rd 1 and maybe they'd make some playoff noise.

It would seem odd for such a young team to acquire an old guy like Nash, but maybe they need a veteran star to push them over the top. It doesn't seem like waiting on their current corp is ever going to blossom into even a Conference Finals appearance sort of team.

Plus you could add in more pieces like Grant Hill going in the trade as well, maybe RoLo (who I have no desire to keep around), whatever. This trade works in the Trade Checker:

PHX Sends:
Nash
Hill
RoLo
Childress

Indy sends:
Collison
Jeff Foster
1st Rounder (2012)
Paul George
Jeff Pendergraph

Suns can sell some Pendy jersey's to ASU die hards like me, they get 2 young pieces in Collison and George to build with going forward (though I don't know if Indy would want to lose both of them). Indy gets RoLo to help with front court depth and back up Hibbert.

Indy's new line up has depth, some decent versatility and a nice mix of youth and veterans:

C Hibbert/Lopez
PF West/Psycho T
SF Granger/Grant Hill
SG Childress/Jones/Stephenson
PG Nash/George Hill

They'd probably need help at the SG, but there's maybe one of the guys in China they can grab or play Granger or Grant Hill at the 2 in spots. Grangers been a pretty good 3 point shooter on his career, and he'd be a tough match up for a lot of shooting guards and playing him along with Hill would make them really rangy and help mask some of Nash's defensive issues.

Suns going forward are younger and have some nice role players and hopefully they hit the lottery big and 2012 Free Agency, but they'd be horrific this year and probably next as well.

 

[asudevil83]

if nash is traded it'll be to a playoff calibur team....and a team where nash is pg upgrade.....meaning we take a pg who A.) worse than nash or B.) has a contract that extends into next year. slim pickings folks.

possibilities:

Boston - centered around nash for rondo. ONLY boston sees their opportunity to contend go away. this leaves them with Garnett/Allen/Wallace/Nash/O'Neal as expirings and tons of cap space.

Orlando - centered around nash for nelson. clear upgrade at the pg for orlando, and it keeps howard interested in staying they would do it.

and nothing else makes sense. Harris from utah or Parker for sa. possibly, but huge long shot.

the problem is that nobody needs nash. all the contenders have their star pg or are so front loaded with long contracts that it wouldnt make sense for the suns to take these contracts back.

 

[elindholm]

Dallas is an outside possibility if Kidd struggles to come back from his injury. Hard to make salaries match unless Dallas sends back Terry. Maybe Nash and Brown for Terry, Beaubois, and a late first-round pick.

 

[slinslin]

Orlando - centered around nash for nelson. clear upgrade at the pg for orlando, and it keeps howard interested in staying they would do it.

and nothing else makes sense. Harris from utah or Parker for sa. possibly, but huge long shot.

That is not a possibility. Nelson has 2 years left on his contract there is no way the Suns would take him back for Nash.

There are many other possibilities like Nash to Indiana for Collison and their pick which make a lot more sense than that.

 

[asudevil83]

That is not a possibility. Nelson has 2 years left on his contract there is no way the Suns would take him back for Nash.

There are many other possibilities like Nash to Indiana for Collison and their pick which make a lot more sense than that.

like?

my point is there is not much of anything out there that makes sense for either team, and those would be the most likely.

 

[HooverDam]

Asudevil, Nash to the Pacers has been mentioned twice and you've ignored it, why?

I'd be all for a Nash for Jason Terry, Beubois and late first trade but I think you have to send Grant Hill in it too to bolster the Mavs bench.

Portland is another option, they're playing uptempo now but they'd likely be wise to just sit tight with Felt on, I'm not sure that even with Nash and hill that they're a title contènder.

 

[asudevil83]

Asudevil, Nash to the Pacers has been mentioned twice and you've ignored it, why?

I'd be all for a Nash for Jason Terry, Beubois and late first trade but I think you have to send Grant Hill in it too to bolster the Mavs bench.

Portland is another option, they're playing uptempo now but they'd likely be wise to just sit tight with Felt on, I'm not sure that even with Nash and hill that they're a title contènder.

i didnt ignore it. i was referring to the "many other possibilities". stating Collison and a first is just reiterating what was already said. i'm looking for the "many other possibilities" which i just dont see looking at the rosters around the league with two team deals.

as far as portland goes. you'd have to make salaries match up. so Nash/Hill is WAY more than Felton makes, and its near impossible to make salaries work. and just Nash for Felton seems like a meaningless swap to me.

i'd do the dallas trade, but it would have to be a 2014 first because they traded their 2012 for Odom.

just look at the playoff teams right now in the east and west. Most have their PG, and even those just on the cusp of the playoffs have a young PG who'd they be stupid to trade. Orlando/NY/Miami/Indiana in the east could use him and the Lakers/Dallas/Portland could possibly. that's about it. and out of those, most of their rosters are taken up by large long term contracts.

 

[Folster]

Nash for Shumpert and an expiring. Shumpert has shown some real promise but NY needs a floor general with experience.

 

[elindholm]

Nash for Shumpert and an expiring.

There aren't any. The Knicks have their big three and a bunch of guys making the minimum.

 

[slinslin]

Utah and Indiana seem like the best trade partners for Nash to me.

Nash for Harris and picks.
Nash for Collison and picks and or maybe dump Childress for Jones.

Lakers in a bigger deal too. Nash to LA, Pau to Hou, youth from Houston to Phoenix. Lots of combinations possible.

 

[tobiazz]

Dallas is an outside possibility if Kidd struggles to come back from his injury. Hard to make salaries match unless Dallas sends back Terry. Maybe Nash and Brown for Terry, Beaubois, and a late first-round pick.

Interesting that you mention Dallas because I came here to post the bizarre rumor of the day:

Dwain Price: The word on the streets is that the Mavs may trade Lamar Odom to Phoenix for Steve Nash. That will get Odom closer to his home in LA. (Twitter)

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Interesting that you mention Dallas because I came here to post the bizarre rumor of the day:

what in the world would a nashless suns team want with lamar odom?

 

[tobiazz]

what in the world would a nashless suns team want with lamar odom?

Better to tank with?

Nash+Chilly <-> Odom+Kidd? Sounds like a Sarverish move.