daves said:
To speculate that ACTUALLY Keim hates Wilks, Bidwill made the decision to hire Wilks over Keim's objections, and then heaped phony praise on him and extended him to appease him, strikes me as preposterous fantasy that flies in the face of everything we've seen from Bidwill and Keim over many years.
I never said that, that is oaken's theory, to which I offered a respectful rebuttal and a counter theory. While I didn't agree with oaken i value him as one of the most thoughtful posters here, so I didn't resort to name calling or deeming his thoughts "preposterous fantasy."
Indeed, in my first post in my thread i was referring to
all of the wild speculation that was being done in the thread, without any evidence that i can see, and in fact contradicted by objective statements and events. I did not reply to your post, nor mention you or Oaken by name, nor did i make any kind of personal attack on either one of you. I respect you both and have liked and provided positive responses to dozens, maybe hundreds of each of your posts.
I referenced the theory of a rift between Bidwill and Keim as an example, but i think your theory that Bidwill wanted Arians gone, that Arians' retirement was forced and not his own idea - based among other things on the facts that there were no questions allowed at Arians' retirement press conference, that Keim looked somber at Wilks' introduction, and that Arians wasn't mentioned at Wilks' introduction - strikes me as equally preposterous and contradicted by the body of evidence.
You said, "BA did not want to risk hinting at the real reason why he retired" - come on, he has made a big stink about how he was "refired" by Pittsburgh, but you think he wouldn't want to "risk" letting on that actually, retiring wasn't his idea?! What did he have to "risk"? Oh, his "severance package"? But he could equally well have refused to retire, and been entitled to 100% of his salary for the remainder of his contract. You think instead, what he said at his tearful retirement press conference was a sham, to cover for Bidwill? And you think that Keim "wasn't happy about BA retiring", which was orchestrated by Bidwill, thus implying (like Oaken1) a rift between the two, papered over by the contract extension.
All of this flies in the face of everything we know about Arians (doesn't mince words) and Bidwill (straight shooter), and requires positing a baseless conspiracy theory about machinations behind the scenes, a phony story to cover everything up - all absurd.
In your own post, you repeatedly said, "One might imagine" multiple times! Figments of imagination are exactly what i called them - "Wild fantasies pulled from the nether regions".
daves said:
So you go on writing up your opinions, and if i think they're informative or insightful, as they usually are, i'll like or comment on them, as i have done many times, but if i think they're ridiculous, i'll ridicule. If you think that amounts to telling you to shut the f up, then you can put me on ignore.
Ridiculing is in violation of the ASFN rules. If you ridicule my thoughts again or treat me as condescendingly as you did, I will put you on ignore. if you want to challenge my thoughts with respectful rebuttals, I am all for it. I love good debates and i usually learn a lot from them. I have always felt that you have a lot to offer and have treated you with respect.
One of the Cardinal rules of this great site is to debate the idea, not the poster. I didn't reply to your post, never mentioned you by name, and as you pointed out above, the theory i referenced was Oaken1's, the body language reading which i regarded as wildly overreaching was Gimmedaball's (who, by the way, took my post much less personally than you did!). So i'm honestly not sure why you're taking things as personal insults.
Again, if i think an opinion is preposterous, absurd, or ridiculous, i will express my opinion accordingly. That's my personality and if you're going to take that as a personal insult, then i am truly sorry that you feel that way, but don't wait, just put me on ignore now, and spare yourself the suffering.
...dave