Still think we have $40+ mil in cap space?

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This is the problem when you have several consecutive years of picking in the top 10. You are bound to have these issues.
 

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Didn't Darren Urban report that he was slated to earn something like $2.1mil next season and that he wasn't going to hit any escalators?
 

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I think we end the offseason with about 4M left.
 
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usually the escalators are something easy to achieve like playing time. Read Somers report, he said he achieved them. That means Rolle will be making about $9 mil next season. WOW!!! And you know Kurt has to have a few million coming also in bonus $$$
 
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Rolle exceeded expectations?:biglaugh:

Sure, as a CB he looked like a bust. He had a couple big games in an interesting position last year but for a first-year FS playing in a feast or famine defense he exceeded the expectations I'd placed on him.
 

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Rolle is a free safety and has not played lights out. If he doesn't put up a probowl year next year, he either resigns for less or the Cards cut him. Free safeties are easily replaced. FS is not near as important as a CB.
 

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I'm not too concerned about our cap space. It's not like we're going to go out and overspend in FA and, as I look at the FAs that will be available, for once I don't blame the team.
 
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Sure, as a CB he looked like a bust. He had a couple big games in an interesting position last year but for a first-year FS playing in a feast or famine defense he exceeded the expectations I'd placed on him.

at his salary and draft position, he has performed below expectations
 

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Rolle is a free safety and has not played lights out. If he doesn't put up a probowl year next year, he either resigns for less or the Cards cut him. Free safeties are easily replaced. FS is not near as important as a CB.

Given the Cardinals recent history, FS is not "easily replaced".. not too long ago Terrence Holt was our starter.
 

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at his salary and draft position, he has performed below expectations

Draft position doesn't mean as much to me after draft day. It's just a good order for picking guys and minimizing risk with the best educated guess.

Yah you want your first rounders to produce, but there are countless examples of those who don't AND we still expect the guys drafted later to produce too.

So I think of the draft status as more of a shopping list with benefits, not an indicator of performance.

I'm probably alone in this, but comfortably so.
 

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Rolle exceeded expectations?:biglaugh:

At what point did people forget this TEAM went to the Superbowl ?

It is not like he doesn't make big plays or anything. :rolleyes:

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Top Ten picks are expensive.

And no, FS are not easily replace-able. Letting Rolle go would be a HUGE mistake.
 
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At what point did people forget this TEAM went to the Superbowl ?

Does making it to the Super Bowl magically make previously average players super stars? Moreover does it cause statistical contract incentives to be reached as if a fairy waved a magic wand? Come on.....
 

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Does making it to the Super Bowl magically make previously average players super stars? Moreover does it cause statistical contract incentives to be reached as if a fairy waved a magic wand? Come on.....

What ever. Find all the negative things you want to, and embellish them as much as you want.

Making the Super bowl does NOT make an average player a super star. But it does tell you that the current team, and the talent on the team is good enough to make it to a Super Bowl.

Incetives reached are incentives earned. I guess we have not learned lesson we should have from the Larry Fitzgerald situation from last year.

Why is it that Rolle hitting incentives is a bad thing ? I find it ludicris to bash our GM for a player performing in a way that he hits incentives. It says the player is producing. It says the player has found a way to be productive.

Rolle was a Top 10 pick, and got paid top ten money, and hit his top ten incentives on that contract. That all equals out to being expensive.

And please remember all these complaints about contracts, incentives, and money when camp rolls around and we are complaining to the high heavens about getting our draft picks signed in time.

How quickly "Just get him into camp" becomes "we paid too much".

I also like the "Super Star" comment. So, you want a FS that plays better than Rolle for less money ? Come on.......

The whole point of the article/blog this number comes from is that the Cardinals are planning to re-sign Rolle, and take that hugh cap number and lower it, AND extend his contract.

What next? Team going 2-14 next year?
 

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The key on the cap is signing our core players as many have said on the Board. So has Graves. This is also one of the worst years for free agency. The best have been franchised. Cards will add some depth but that's about it.
 

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Given the Cardinals recent history, FS is not "easily replaced".. not too long ago Terrence Holt was our starter.

Ouch....wow was he bad.......Rolle is so much better than Holt it is frightening....his play is improving as a FS, and will only get better IMO....
 

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I would like to consider Rolle to return punts... it seems that when he gets a turnover he has the vision and the speed to make huge gains every time... just a thought!
 
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Ouch....wow was he bad.......Rolle is so much better than Holt it is frightening....his play is improving as a FS, and will only get better IMO....

I'm not saying Rolle isn't solid, he is. But is he worth $9 mil? No way!!! What incentives did he hit to receive that astronomical pay raise? Has to be playing time which is the problem. Incentives should be based on production and Rolle tends to have 2 good games a year. How many times did we see AW shaking his head or talking to #21 at blown assignmnets? Alot!!! He better get to playing alot better to deserve that kind of contract.
 

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He did make a nice block on Fitz in this play

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Rolle is a free safety and has not played lights out. If he doesn't put up a probowl year next year, he either resigns for less or the Cards cut him. Free safeties are easily replaced. FS is not near as important as a CB.
So Ed Reed wasn't any more important than Fabian Washington this year? Every player is equally important. Defensive football is the unltimate team game. You have to pull your weight unless you have superior players hiding your charlies, and it is much easier/cheaper to have a superior FS than a great CB who doesn't need safety help IMO.
 

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Does making it to the Super Bowl magically make previously average players super stars? Moreover does it cause statistical contract incentives to be reached as if a fairy waved a magic wand? Come on.....

It does if you are Dexter Jackson.
 

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