fordronken
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Don't think this has been posted yet. Nice article on Amare's summer.
http://www.nba.com/suns/news/stoudemire_070813.html
http://www.nba.com/suns/news/stoudemire_070813.html
Stoudemire's Summer of Content
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seriously, this guy is possessed. Love him to death.
I would presume that much of his workouts have been focused on getting back his former explosiveness. If he has, the tendency will be for opponents to pack inside. It looks like he's preparing to force opponents to come out to guard him.
playstation
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four-a-day's???
good god
what is hilarious is he was doing this while the KG for Amare rumors were floating around. No better way to convince your team that's a mistake!
i think the big key in all he's doing is the pilates btw. that flexibility increase is going to be HUGE for him as his career goes on.
this is a far cry from the amare i saw 2 years ago at Joe's pizza after a night out chowing down on some non-sense...
good god
what is hilarious is he was doing this while the KG for Amare rumors were floating around. No better way to convince your team that's a mistake!
i think the big key in all he's doing is the pilates btw. that flexibility increase is going to be HUGE for him as his career goes on.
this is a far cry from the amare i saw 2 years ago at Joe's pizza after a night out chowing down on some non-sense...
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can you imagine how great of a player Marion would be if he had Amare's drive? Dude would actually deserve all the accolades he thinks he deserves.
Love Amare. Love where he came from, love that so far, we've seen him grow from where he came from, love that even facing insurmountable odds, he got back to NBA-All First Team and I love that the kid just wants to be the best - flat out, period. The greatest winners in life always know one thing - I am never satisfied and I can always be better. Amare's got that in spades.
Love Amare. Love where he came from, love that so far, we've seen him grow from where he came from, love that even facing insurmountable odds, he got back to NBA-All First Team and I love that the kid just wants to be the best - flat out, period. The greatest winners in life always know one thing - I am never satisfied and I can always be better. Amare's got that in spades.
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For those of you who think the suns are cursed because they lost the coin flip for Kareem, just think Denver had 2 chances to pick Amare in '02 and they passed twice.
Rab
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It's hard to not like Amare IMO, even though he doesn't always do or say the right things all the time, and has been known to have a big ego. The guy is motivated to be the best. Nothing but good can come from this. He doesn't need the 3 point shot though. How about defense instead?
Back in the day, I remember some comments that Amare did not respect Marbury because Stephon didn't work hard enough. I wasn't sure if this was just ego, but it does seem that we should never underestimate Amare's drive.
I don't know if Boris has continued working out with Amare, but it would be really nice if some of that intensity rubbed off.
I don't know if Boris has continued working out with Amare, but it would be really nice if some of that intensity rubbed off.
Amen to that brother!
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I'm hoping Boris is doing the same thing... somewhere.
Seriously, he needs to be doing weights/basketball training 6-8 hours a day... he nees muscles to maybe be able to get those hormones make him aggressive.
Seriously, he needs to be doing weights/basketball training 6-8 hours a day... he nees muscles to maybe be able to get those hormones make him aggressive.
I'm not sure this is inconsistent. The book was about before his injury and there is little doubt that Amare relied mostly on his incredible physical skills. Most people wondered if he could ever come back after his microfracture and then the setback with his other knee; he had all the reason in the world to just coast and call it "caution".
In any case, if Amare was lazy in 2004-05; he did manage to average 26.0 ppg during the regular season and 10.7 rpg in the playoffs.
In any case, if Amare was lazy in 2004-05; he did manage to average 26.0 ppg during the regular season and 10.7 rpg in the playoffs.
Chaplin
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Hmm, unless he read the book and changed his attitude. It's possible.
Difference between working out and trying to recover from a major surgery. Amare obviously didn't feel right while he was rehabing and since he ended up needing another surgery I think he had reason to be aprehensive about his rehab.
I can't believe anyone would even hint at Amare not being a hard worker. Just look at his improvements in his first 3 years. Players don't just go from 13ppg to 20ppg to 26ppg.
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McCallum's book covered the 2005-2006 season beginning to end, when Amare was out.
dodie53
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3point shooting? nice..
Since I didn't read the book, I though there was more about 2004-05. The 2005-06 year was really uncharted ground in terms of what the proper process for rehab from microfracture. There was a lot confusion as to whether he should have been pushed to return when he did or if he worked hard enough.
Perhaps he did read it. If he feels he has something to prove, well he will get the chance.
dodie53
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why didn't you read the book?
I guess that too much of what I heard about the book left me cold.
Just can't agree with you here. Shawn Marion might be overrated on defense, especially here in the Valley. I definitely wish Shawn Marion had Amare's touch with the media.
That said, Shawn Marion almost always gives 110% effort on the court, all the time, on both ends. If Amare Stoudemire did that he would be significantly better than he is currently. Even during the playoffs there are times when Amare Stoudemire simply loses concentration.
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I agree. To me, rebounding is one of the best measures of effort and Shawn has consistently been one the best in the league. At 6'7", he does not get many than just fall into his hands. He works for them.
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I don't think Shawn's effort on the court is questioned by many fans around here, but it's what he doesn't do in the offseason that I'm guessing Cheese was refering to. He's had the same weaknesses since he came into the league, and hasn't shown a great deal of improvement. The offseason is when you fix those weaknesses.
Treesquid PhD
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I actually spit my coke out when I read this post. Shawn Marion has the most simpathetic media coverage that I have ever seen, I can't name a local athlete who has ever gotten more of a pass than Marion and his whinning.
All I hear in the media is how unappreciated Marion is, every year you can set your clock to it, December and January, Marion starts his pre all star whine and every talk show and every newspaper runs a story to tell us fans how underappreciated Marion is, you can ever gaurantee some national coverage on the topic as well.
If Amare whined as much as Marion he would be absolutely killed in the media. Marion crys little a little girl and everyone knows it, Amare while not perfect and at times cocky is always postive and upbeat.
Now the whole Significantly better comment? we're not talking about Pat Burke, we are talking about a 2 time Allstar and 1st team NBA, you make it sound like the guy is a hack like the bench players you tout so often. Again, it goes back to expectations, fans get excited when Pat Burke or Jooomine Jones hits a three but chastise when Amare doesn't go for 35 and 20 nightly.
110% is for hacks and unsigned free agents it's that simple, there are times when Marion takes some mental and physical time off too, it's called the NBA playoffs.
Treesquid PhD
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Gotta disagree, Rebounding is effort but there is also an element of understanding positioning.
Marion's suceess is defined by his speed, lift and ability to position himself for the rebound. That is where Amare fails, it's not his effort but his understading of positon.
You did manage to get that one all turned around. My point was that Marion shows a very high level of effort on the court. I feel Amare's effort level is much better, as reflected by his improved rebounding, but may not be as consistently high as Marion's.
As for "off season effort", that's a tough one. Marion does his workouts in Chicago with all the other Chicago based players, so I'm not sure local reporters have any idea what he does. But it's been a long time since he's ever come to camp out of shape.
Perhaps he should be spending more time learning how to shoot and ball handling, but that is not the same as saying he don't work.
