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Why is it guys like Billy Volek an undrafted QB and other late round guys find sucess (even on bad teams) and we still can't find one that can play? Can our Ol, lack of a running game & struggling WRs really be that bad?
 

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Reddog said:
Why is it guys like Billy Volek an undrafted QB and other late round guys find sucess (even on bad teams) and we still can't find one that can play? Can our Ol, lack of a running game & struggling WRs really be that bad?


Man can Volek throw the deep ball or what??? Did you see the stats they shows on his 20+ yard passes? Unreal!

he is like Denny's dream guy.
 

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Volek looked really really good! But he also had some really good protection and his OL opened up some nice running lanes.

Something I also thought was interesting is Drew Bennet is not a burner at all, but he was just a football catching machine last night. He just simply made a play on the ball and muscled it in if he was in tight coverage.
 

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Why is it guys like Billy Volek an undrafted QB and other late round guys find sucess (even on bad teams) and we still can't find one that can play?
Answer - There are ten other guys on the field who can make a QB look good or bad. And an OC who dials up the plays.

It's a group thing.
 

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Oh no, let's not start a Volek for Cardinal QB next season bandwagon. :)

Remember, Josh threw for over 300 on Sunday. Doesn't mean he is a bona fide starter in the NFL.

Volek had a great game against a very, very horrible defense last night. It was fun but I think he also had a stinker of a game a couple of games ago.
 
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Interesting thing is that the main criticism of Volek and why he was undrafted was the claim that he didn't have a NFL caliber arm

Volek is now in his 5th year of the NFL out of Fresno State! He kept David Carr (#1 pick for Texans) on the bench for two years.

Quarterbacks still take time to develop, the same as it did years ago. Granted some do come along quicker than others (think Manning, McNabb, Culpepper), but nowdays they are having to learn while on the field rather than on the bench. The unfortunate consequence of the current standard is that it is difficult to distinguish between the QB that needs time to develop and those who never will.
 

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JeffGollin said:
Why is it guys like Billy Volek an undrafted QB and other late round guys find sucess (even on bad teams) and we still can't find one that can play?
Answer - There are ten other guys on the field who can make a QB look good or bad. And an OC who dials up the plays.

It's a group thing.

Stop using logic around here Jeff. You'll confuse people
 

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I keep chugging koolaid and try to support the starter, but, just for informational purposes, didnt the announcers say Votek would be a FA next year?

NM, I see on another thread Votek signed a 5 year contract to stay.
 
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CardLogic said:
The unfortunate consequence of the current standard is that it is difficult to distinguish between the QB that needs time to develop and those who never will.

That's the hard part. Some guys look like crap but will be good after a while, others look like crap and will always look like crap.
 

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Reddog said:
Why is it guys like Billy Volek an undrafted QB and other late round guys find sucess (even on bad teams) and we still can't find one that can play? Can our Ol, lack of a running game & struggling WRs really be that bad?
I will tell you exactly why. It is their scout team. They have been touted as being one of the best if not the very best in the NFL. SI and ESPN have done numerous stories about these guys and where they go to find these kids at. It is unreal.

Here is a link to USA Today where they talk about the scouts, and how they found Billy Volek and others.....

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/titans/2003-12-15-scouting_x.htm

It was hard as heck finding this link, yall check it out :thumbup:
 

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Without a doubt Volek has shown some nice talent at qb the last couple of years....but please take into account who the titans were playing Monday night before asking such questions on why we cant find these sort of players....the chiefs D is pitiful at best.Not to mention the talent level the titans have had on the oline for the last 7-8 years and a consistent and more than capable coaching staff during this span.....the titans have been perennial playofff contenders for a while......basically what im getting at is consistensy within the organization leads to better play....i.e brees had finally clicked in martys system which doesnt mean he can go light the league on fire next year with a simple switch by the person who signs his check......being comfortable and understanding what his coaches want is key.
 

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shoe said:
Without a doubt Volek has shown some nice talent at qb the last couple of years....but please take into account who the titans were playing Monday night before asking such questions on why we cant find these sort of players....the chiefs D is pitiful at best.Not to mention the talent level the titans have had on the oline for the last 7-8 years and a consistent and more than capable coaching staff during this span.....the titans have been perennial playofff contenders for a while......basically what im getting at is consistensy within the organization leads to better play....i.e brees had finally clicked in martys system which doesnt mean he can go light the league on fire next year with a simple switch by the person who signs his check......being comfortable and understanding what his coaches want is key.
The Titans O Line aint as potent as you claim. First off, the team had 9 starters out at kickoff, and lost another 3 during the game. 2 of those 3 were Fred Miller, and Justin Hartwig, both on the O line. That was an inexperienced O line that you watched Volek work with. Jacob Bell, who also started on the O line, is a rookie. And the Titans coaching staff has been hit hard too. Gunther Cunningham who was responsible for those great Titan D's you used to see went to KC. Then they added McGinnis who's done one heck of a job in screwing up our linebacking corps. :mad:
 

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I would disagree with the " behind a good O line " comment. That O line has beeb decimated by injuries this year and is the primary reason McNair is out for the rest of the year. Too many shots to the ribs. I recall Volek completing a few passes in the last 2 weeks with defenders hanging onto him and belting him on the release. Last week the commentators exclaimed on his uncanny accuracy while throwing in the face of blitzes and "hurries". I believe Mc Nair won't be back and Volek will for the Titans next year.
 

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I would disagree with the " behind a good O line " comment. That O line has beeb decimated by injuries this year and is the primary reason McNair is out for the rest of the year. Too many shots to the ribs. I recall Volek completing a few passes in the last 2 weeks with defenders hanging onto him and belting him on the release. Last week the commentators exclaimed on his uncanny accuracy while throwing in the face of blitzes and "hurries". I believe Mc Nair won't be back and Volek will for the Titans next year.
Thank you!! Point made!! I do think McNair will be back, but not with the Titans. I think he will ask to be traded or released and go somewhere where he can win NOW!!!
 

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