Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

[Hoop Head]

You really expect Ishbia to admit that the KD trade was a failure by trading KD?

I think they would be willing to admit that Beal isn't a great fit here more than hey, we gave up a ton for KD and it isn't just going to work out after 1.5 years so see you KD.

I didn't say he'd trade KD for Butler, or Beal for that matter. Miami is too smart to be our fool. There's one Sun who would probably get a deal done but he's the one who shouldn't be traded for more crazy glue. This team's flawed beyond the big 3. Until the roster construction is addressed as a whole this team won't compete.


I hope Ishbia will admit when he makes mistakes. He has a built in excuse already, he was brand new and looking to put his stamp on the franchise. That was shortsighted by him but owning it will allow everyone, fans and him, to move forward together. If he pulls a James Jones and shifts the blame elsewhere then there's little reason to believe his reckless spending will result in anything meaningful.

 

[Covert Rain]

I didn't say he'd trade KD for Butler, or Beal for that matter. Miami is too smart to be our fool. There's one Sun who would probably get a deal done but he's the one who shouldn't be traded for more crazy glue. This team's flawed beyond the big 3. Until the roster construction is addressed as a whole this team won't compete.


I hope Ishbia will admit when he makes mistakes. He has a built in excuse already, he was brand new and looking to put his stamp on the franchise. That was shortsighted by him but owning it will allow everyone, fans and him, to move forward together. If he pulls a James Jones and shifts the blame elsewhere then there's little reason to believe his reckless spending will result in anything meaningful.

My assumption is you mean Book and that's why you didn't want to put it out there in the universe in your earlier post. Man...could you imagine??? I don't think the Suns are dumb enough for that trade. The only way the Suns move Book is if they get a ton of assets in return and that would be during a rebuild. Can you imagine the fan base if they were to trade Book, keep KD/Beal and say yeah...we are going to make a run for it.....without Book?!?!

Yikes. The fandom would have a meltdown.

 

[Mainstreet]

My assumption is you mean Book and that's why you didn't want to put it out there in the universe in your earlier post. Man...could you imagine??? I don't think the Suns are dumb enough for that trade. The only way the Suns move Book is if they get a ton of assets in return and that would be during a rebuild. Can you imagine the fan base if they were to trade Book, keep KD/Beal and say yeah...we are going to make a run for it.....without Book?!?!

Yikes. The fandom would have a meltdown.

If the Suns were willing to trade Booker, the Suns would have a number of teams interested, not just Miami.

 

[Covert Rain]

If the Suns were willing to trade Booker, the Suns would have a number of teams interested, not just Miami.

Yep, which means likely a better return as well.

 

[Suns_fan69]

If the Suns were willing to trade Booker, the Suns would have a number of teams interested, not just Miami.

Unfortunately, that's the domino that will have to fall to trigger the rebuild. That will likely make KD want out, which means we'd get out of 2 of the 3 massive deals we had for hopefully some decent future draft capital. If Beal is willing to waive his NTC at that point, then great, but my guess is that we'll have to keep him through part of the teardown/rebuild.

 

[Germz249]

Lots of late nights at the Waffle house.

With such a trade like this there are a few things that has to happen.. a third team has to be involved. The Heat are above the 1st apron and can't bring in more money than they are sending. A third team like the Pistons need to get involved because they are below the cap.

All I can report is Beal for Buttler part is done.. now its just working on a third team to absorb the difference in their salary.

Also everything I just said was just BS but if it works out then I knew all along with my inside sources.

 

[Mainstreet]

Lots of late nights at the Waffle house.

With such a trade like this there are a few things that has to happen.. a third team has to be involved. The Heat are above the 1st apron and can't bring in more money than they are sending. A third team like the Pistons need to get involved because they are below the cap.

All I can report is Beal for Buttler part is done.. now its just working on a third team to absorb the difference in their salary.

Also everything I just said was just BS but if it works out then I knew all along with my inside sources.

I'm wondering if the Suns will somehow get a center as well. Also, is BS a code name for a team or player?

 

[Hoop Head]

I'm wondering if the Suns will somehow get a center as well. Also, is BS a code name for a team or player?

Both, Ben Simmons will be a Sun. His game has regressed to match his initials but James Jones swears "no NBA team has ever unlocked BS's true potential like the Suns will".

 

[SirStefan32]

I can't imagine a scenario in which Miami trades a better player with a shorter contract. I'd love to do that trade but I don't see Miami doing it. Buttler is a competitor- something the Suns really need. He also is not the same as Booker. My biggest issue with Beal is that he and Booker are essentially the same player. I like Beal (ignoring the injuries), but he is just another (slightly worse) Booker.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I can't imagine a scenario in which Miami trades a better player with a shorter contract.

It makes no sense, whatsoever.

 

[Phrazbit]

We're not getting Butler.

Period. No chance.

There is no trade scenario that is realistic. It wouldn't matter if he publicly stated that we were the only team he would accept a trade to. If it was absolutely confirmed that Jimmy wants to be here and only here it would only confirm that Jimmy does not understand the trade rules under the current CBA.