Suns fire McD

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

What do you expect him to say - yes I want to be traded?

Ultimately he is not in control of the situation, to alienate yourself to the fans is not a good idea.

It wasn’t public. My recollection is the team approached him and asked if he wanted to be traded and they would have accommodated him but he said no he wanted to remain.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Maybe Sarver finally got tire of McD making him look bad--at least in Sarver's mind. Again, not trying to defend Sarver, just trying to get an accurate assessment of the situation.

I'm sure there were many factors, there usually are. But in the end, we had definite needs at the 1 and the 4 and here we are about to start the season with those same needs.

 

[SirStefan32]

Yeah, I have no concern about using up our cap space for the right player this season. I'm not convinced Dragic is the right person but I don't coach the team. Yet.

Sorry Steve, but I like Igor. Would you be interested in a GM position by any chance?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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Good lord why announce you’re coming on the radio then? Idiot.

 

[AzStevenCal]

It wasn’t public. My recollection is the team approached him and asked if he wanted to be traded and they would have accommodated him but he said no he wanted to remain.

Yeah, that's how I remember it too the season before last. But I also remember hearing something about him being unhappy here this past season but it was never really fleshed out. Just a quick comment from one of the Gambo's of the world.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

Well, fair enough. I suppose they could try to make the 20/21 the year of cap space. It should be before any other major extensions come up. You think Dragic gets the Suns to the playoffs?

Dragic knows Igors system better than anybody other than maybe Doncic. I see goran as a pure PG. The only reason he isnt with the Suns to this day is because MCD created a cluster F at PG and Dragic was moved out of his natural position. But everyone knows the history of what happened. Goran would be the best PG the Suns could bring in to run Igors system which could possibly speed up the playoff timeline?

 

[AzStevenCal]

Sorry Steve, but I like Igor. Would you be interested in a GM position by any chance?

Yeah, that's probably a better choice for me. I can't coach as well as I can't GM.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I don't think the timing is all that odd. It's much better to fire him now then to wait until the end of the season when the GM job really ratchets up.

Again I’ll repeat, if you were going to fire him, why wait until he hires a coach, trades the Miami pick, signs ariza, trades chriss and knight? You allowed the dude to make all the most important decisions in the offseason and then can him? And that timing is not odd???

 

[BC867]

Sarver is not the "virtual GM". All reports are that James Jones is taking over in the interim with help from assistant GM Trevor Bukstein. Is that better than Sarver? I'd say yes, if only because it's not Sarver. That was reported right after the firing so making that claim that Sarver is the GM in anyway at the moment is premature and incorrect. It's even noted in the first tweet quoted in the initial post here.

Has there been any word about how long "interim" will be? Or will the two guys already on Sarver's payroll split the job indefinitely?

And will the team, as the Suns have done at Point Guard and Power Forward, have two potential candidates competing with each other all season long?

If he goes outside, my fear is that he would hire another bargain basement inexperienced person to be his underling and the no-playoff cycle would continue for another eight years. Until we see differently, there is no proof to the contrary.

1Sun=Sarver

Would be so funny if this was Sarver's burner account

Like a former member of the Suns' organization.

OK, I'm curious. What former member of the Suns' organization? And what ASFN ID did he use?

 

[AzStevenCal]

Good lord why announce you’re coming on the radio then? Idiot.

I liked the interview, IMO Somers isn't doing Sarver justice with this comment.

 

[Mainstreet]

I’m sorry, this isn’t directed at you, but . . .

how many posts have there been after something happens and everyone is like “some other shoenis about to drop! I’m sure a trade for a pg is right around the corner . . . ???”

Ariza signing
Bridges trade
Chriss/knight trade
McD firing

I've been trying to drop a shoe for a starting point guard for a long time.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Good lord why announce you’re coming on the radio then? Idiot.

It would have been poor form to give out the specifics for the firing. However he did the right thing for coming on the radio to talk about the state of the team and to at least answer to some extent the reasons for the firing.

 

[AzStevenCal]

OK, I'm curious. What former member of the Suns' organization? And what ASFN ID did he use?

He's talking about Brian Colangelo I believe.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Again I’ll repeat, if you were going to fire him, why wait until he hires a coach, trades the Miami pick, signs ariza, trades chriss and knight? You allowed the dude to make all the most important decisions in the offseason and then can him? And that timing is not odd???

Clearly he felt confident in the off season plans McD had entering the off season, but McD's inability to follow through on that plan was why he was fired.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Again I’ll repeat, if you were going to fire him, why wait until he hires a coach, trades the Miami pick, signs ariza, trades chriss and knight? You allowed the dude to make all the most important decisions in the offseason and then can him? And that timing is not odd???

He wasn't going to fire him. I think Sarver made some key mistakes this offseason, starting with trading away the Miami pick for someone that was neither a point guard nor a forward. You don't know in advance that someone is going to do the wrong thing or that what they do is going to fail. Sarver continued to give him rope and after seeing Anderson and our 4 PGs, he felt something needed to be done.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Here are some of my notes on the Robert Sarver interview:

1. During the last 5 years or even 6 months the Suns progress was not where it needed to be.
2. It was Sarver's decision alone to fire McDonough.
3. He decided he needed to make a change.
4. Felt the Suns could have been further along.
5. Suns didn't achieve all they could in the past 5 years.
6. McDonough made the final decision on who would be drafted.
7. He feels James Jones adds value to the organization.
8. There is no reason to rush to hire a GM although it should be an attractive position.
9. Turnover is not a good thing.
10. Sarver accepts responsibility. He is not a micro-manager.
11. It was not fair to look at the 2016 draft as an indicator alone.
12. He feels the Suns will be a better team this season but no prediction.
13. Sarver thinks the Suns are at the end of the rebuild.
14. Suns have flexibility next season with cap space and drafts picks.
15. Finding a point guard is at the top of the list.
16. Sarver did not feel the switch was flipped this summer.
17. There are a lot of variables going after big name players.
18. The Suns are in a better position today after hiring McDonough.

Thank you

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah, I have no concern about using up our cap space for the right player this season. I'm not convinced Dragic is the right person but I don't coach the team. Yet.

The Suns are looking for a GM and they are at the end of their rebuild. Perhaps you might apply.

They keep waiting for tomorrow to come so I'm open to the idea that gets us thinking about the now.

 

[Proximo]

Good lord why announce you’re coming on the radio then? Idiot.

Did you listen to the interview? It was more about what he did not say than what he did say.

Somers is being ridiculous with this tweet.

Sarver is not going to get on the radio and say my team, and my pg's absolutely suck.

He is obviously not happy about the team's performance in the preseason, and I agree with him. Other than Ayton the team has looked pathetic, and that just isn't good enough.

I do think a pg would make a big difference and it is inexcusable that the team does not have one days before the season starts. Literally the NZ pg we played against the other night is better than what we currently have and I seriously would have considered signing him if I was McDonough.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

At the end of the season is the worst time to fire a GM. There are too many things already going. THIS is the time of year you evaluate a GM and decided to make a change.

What?!? That makes NO sense. And I’m sorry your “there are too many things already going” is just a silly nonsense comment without substance.

 

[hcsilla]

13. Sarver thinks the Suns are at the end of the rebuild.

That's simply wrong and will lead to even more stupid decisions.

 

[hcsilla]

18. The Suns are in a better position today after hiring McDonough.

That is not saying much.

 

[AzStevenCal]

The Suns are looking for a GM and they are at the end of their rebuild. The Suns keep waiting for tomorrow to come so I'm open to the idea or any other reasonable idea that gets us thinking about the now.

That's about the only thing that surprised me in the interview. I really was expecting him to promote James to the position rather than making it an interim move.

As for end of the rebuild, I think he might have worded it differently if he hadn't been given a multiple choice question. I sure would. I think we are beyond the mid point but until we fill the holes at the 1 and the 4, it's tough to call us anything other than a rebuilding team still.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Absolutely. There's always something going on for the GM position but I can't think of a much worse time to fire one than at the end of the season.

If you’ve lost faith in him, even a little, it’s the only time to can him so he can’t further wreck your team. But by all means try to convince me why you let a gm you’re on the fence about choose your next head coach, use your number one pick, trade away a future asset, use some cap space and trade other assets away . . . go for it.

 

[AzStevenCal]

That is not saying much.

Yeah it is. Maybe we should be further along, maybe even much further along but we were as low as a franchise can get when Ryan was hired.

 

[BC867]

He's talking about Brian Colangelo I believe.

Didn't anyone tell him there is already a BC on the board?