Suns trade ideas for the fall of 2020

[Proximo]

For what? Besides, I get the feeling that if James Jones pulls the trade, he reaches for Haliburton at 2, giving us no means left to get a power forward...

It's pretty clear to me the plan is sign one of Bertans, Grant, Wood, or Galinarri, and draft a PG.

Halliburton is a reach at 2 - but not that much of a reach considering there really is no consensus top 3.

Yes Ideally you would pick him 6th or something like that - but if that is the guy they really want unless they can get back something additional to the pick from ATL you do the Golden state deal.

However I think it would be insane to also give up that #10 pick in such a deal. Golden State should be willing to give up #2 straight up for Oubre, and if they aren't I would tell them to screw off, and settle for Kira Lewis or even better Killian Hayes if we are dead set on a PG.

 

[Finito]

It's pretty clear to me the plan is sign one of Bertans, Grant, Wood, or Galinarri, and draft a PG.

Halliburton is a reach at 2 - but not that much of a reach considering there really is no consensus top 3.

Yes Ideally you would pick him 6th or something like that - but if that is the guy they really want unless they can get back something additional to the pick from ATL you do the Golden state deal.

However I think it would be insane to also give up that #10 pick in such a deal. Golden State should be willing to give up #2 straight up for Oubre, and if they aren't I would tell them to screw off, and settle for Kira Lewis or even better Killian Hayes if we are dead set on a PG.

lol the overvaluing of Kelly Oubre by Suns fans is funny.

 

[Chaplin]

lol the overvaluing of Kelly Oubre by Suns fans is funny.

Look, Oubre is no star but if you think the #2 pick in this draft is worth more than Kelly Oubre, that’s much more hilarious.

At the very least he is a starting caliber SF on the NBA. And he’s still young. Which pick at #2 can claim the same?

 

[Finito]

Look, Oubre is no star but if you think the #2 pick in this draft is worth more than Kelly Oubre, that’s much more hilarious.

At the very least he is a starting caliber SF on the NBA. And he’s still young. Which pick at #2 can claim the same?

then I guess everybody in the NBA is laughing.

 

[Chaplin]

then I guess everybody in the NBA is laughing.

Can you answer my question?

Who is this "everybody" you refer to?

 

[Finito]

Can you answer my question?

Who is this "everybody" you refer to?

Everybody.

yeah a guys who’s a career 10 points and 4 rebounds six years into his career is worth the 2nd pick in the draft....oh and coming off a knee injury.

but but but he’s still young.

“by your 3rd year we should know if your going to be a star”- Zach Lowe.

Yeah Kelly Oubre is so good and so valuable to the Suns there not going to resign him. Awesome.

 

[Mainstreet]

Everybody.

yeah a guys who’s a career 10 points and 4 rebounds six years into his career is worth the 2nd pick in the draft....oh and coming off a knee injury.

but but but he’s still young.

“by your 3rd year we should know if your going to be a star”- Zach Lowe.

Yeah Kelly Oubre is so good and so valuable to the Suns there not going to resign him. Awesome.

I not trying to convince you of anything but I think your use of stats is a bit misleading.

Oubre who is 24 has been in the NBA five seasons and his stats have increased in all 5 seasons. His stats this past season were 18.7 points and 6.4 rebounds. There is no reason to believe he has peaked because of his youth.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/oubreke01.html

 

[Chaplin]

I not trying to convince you of anything but I think your use of stats is a bit misleading.

Oubre who is 24 has been in the NBA five seasons and his stats have increased in all 5 seasons. His stats this past season were 18.7 points and 6.4 rebounds. There is no reason to believe he has peaked because of his youth.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/oubreke01.html

Exactly. Using stats that are heavily skewed by the first 2 years of a 5 year career is misleading at best and disingenuous at worst.

So I would say yes, a guy averaging 18.7 points and 6.4 rebounds is worth far more than the #2 pick in 2020.

 

[Cheesebeef]

HARD PASS on that Love trade. That guy’s availability, overall game and contract are horse manure at this point.

 

[Finito]

Exactly. Using stats that are heavily skewed by the first 2 years of a 5 year career is misleading at best and disingenuous at worst.

So I would say yes, a guy averaging 18.7 points and 6.4 rebounds is worth far more than the #2 pick in 2020.

are you suns going to resign him?

 

[Proximo]

Exactly. Using stats that are heavily skewed by the first 2 years of a 5 year career is misleading at best and disingenuous at worst.

So I would say yes, a guy averaging 18.7 points and 6.4 rebounds is worth far more than the #2 pick in 2020.

Yes it is, especially to a team like Golden State that wants production immediately to help their older stars.

 

[Finito]

I not trying to convince you of anything but I think your use of stats is a bit misleading.

Oubre who is 24 has been in the NBA five seasons and his stats have increased in all 5 seasons. His stats this past season were 18.7 points and 6.4 rebounds. There is no reason to believe he has peaked because of his youth.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/oubreke01.html

I’m aware of his stats. Would you give him the money he wants if you were in control of the Suns?

 

[hcsilla]

The problem with Oubre that at this point he is a one-year rental. That's why there is no way that the Warriors give up #2 straight up for him. Besides Oubre only next season would cost them about 40 mil. because they are a repeating lux-tax team.

I think that Oubre to GSW is a dead idea on multiple fronts.

 

[Chaplin]

are you suns going to resign him?

That's not the point. We're talking about worth. If the Suns were desperate to get rid of Oubre, then they might make that stupid trade. If Golden State was desperate for Oubre, they'd offer a lot more than the #2.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Look, Oubre is no star but if you think the #2 pick in this draft is worth more than Kelly Oubre, that’s much more hilarious.

At the very least he is a starting caliber SF on the NBA. And he’s still young. Which pick at #2 can claim the same?

But he’s only got a year left on his contract.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Exactly. Using stats that are heavily skewed by the first 2 years of a 5 year career is misleading at best and disingenuous at worst.

So I would say yes, a guy averaging 18.7 points and 6.4 rebounds is worth far more than the #2 pick in 2020.

Not on a one year contract and coming off knee injury.

 

[Chaplin]

Not on a one year contract and coming off knee injury.

Sorry, I still think he has more value than the #2 pick. And by that I mean he can net something better than the #2.

 

[Finito]

That's not the point. We're talking about worth. If the Suns were desperate to get rid of Oubre, then they might make that stupid trade. If Golden State was desperate for Oubre, they'd offer a lot more than the #2.

its 100% the point.

he’s so valuable your not going to resign him. That lets you know everything you need to know.

the second time in his “young” career he will be traded

 

[Chaplin]

its 100% the point.

he’s so valuable your not going to resign him. That lets you know everything you need to know.

the second time in his “young” career he will be traded

Except you're missing the fact that a big reason he may be traded is because we have another player at his same position.

But it doesn't matter. We can fight and bitch and moan and it's not going to go anywhere. So agree to disagree.

 

[Finito]

Except you're missing the fact that a big reason he may be traded is because we have another player at his same position.

But it doesn't matter. We can fight and bitch and moan and it's not going to go anywhere. So agree to disagree.

exactly he’s worth so much he’s now expendable because we have better players at his position with more upside

 

[Chaplin]

exactly he’s worth so much he’s now expendable because we have better players at his position with more upside

That is the same attitude that made Sarver sell Kurt Thomas for nothing. He may not be in our plans, but that doesn't mean we should just give him away.

 

[Finito]

That is the same attitude that made Sarver sell Kurt Thomas for nothing. He may not be in our plans, but that doesn't mean we should just give him away.

who’s saying give him away

 

[JerkFace]

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[Cheesebeef]

Sorry, I still think he has more value than the #2 pick. And by that I mean he can net something better than the #2.

hmmm... not on a one year rental deal, IMO.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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Aaron Gordon has to feel like the least loved player in the history of the nba.